Interesting Stats from games won and lost

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Macca82
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Interesting Stats from games won and lost

Post: # 1340633Post Macca82 »

Found this written by Scott Barby on the North Melbourne Website very interesting. To locate the Saints main weakness you only have to look at the usage in wins and losses to see that if you take away their space and ability to spread, combined with winning first use, you’re in the box seat for four points. The Saints love to run and spread, ranking seventh for uncontested marks and play on percentage, although when the game is played on contested terms, they struggle to compete. Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.

Limiting the Saints’ space will be crucial as they rank number one in the competition for kicking long to advantage and marks on lead, thanks largely to the impeccable work rate and presence of Nick Riewoldt. They rank third for marking percentage when venturing inside fifty but opportunities have been limited with the Saints ranking fifteenth for inside fifties. When St. Kilda do manage to get the ball in the forward line they are quite damaging and register a score 42.4% of the time, the fifth best percentage in the AFL.


Saints in wins Kicks Kicking Efficiency Disposals Contested Possession Marks
St Kilda 224 69.6% 408 143 114
Opposition 176 62.8% 299 122 74

Differential +48 +6.9% +109 +21 +40



Saints in losses Kicks Kicking Efficiency Disposals ContestePossesion Marks
St Kilda 198 63.4% 330 129 89
Opposition 219 65.2% 368 141 101

Differential -21 -.17% -38 -12 -12


Basically what it comes down to is that we have 26 less kicks between wins and loses, our kicking efficency drops by 6.2%, we have 78 less disposals in a loss, 14 less contested possesions and 25 less marks. No doubt the theme of the week and has been most weeks is to win the contested possesion.


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We played GWS in one of our two wins


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Post: # 1340663Post gringo »

We lost to the Dogs because we had a limping Lenny and Jack Steven as our only guys likely to get a clearance. Armo will help but I hope Saunders gets some time in there. He has something Selwood like about him. We could do with recruiting a big in and under mid with our high pick.


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Post: # 1340728Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:We lost to the Dogs because we had a limping Lenny and Jack Steven as our only guys likely to get a clearance. Armo will help but I hope Saunders gets some time in there. He has something Selwood like about him. We could do with recruiting a big in and under mid with our high pick.

He is nothing like Selwood in any way he plays. keep him mainly out of the midfield until next season. No need to rush him. he can play midfield for Sandy occasionally.


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Post: # 1340732Post bigcarl »

Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?


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Post: # 1340744Post stinger »

bigcarl wrote:
Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?

a very good question my friend...


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Post: # 1340745Post saintspremiers »

stinger wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?

a very good question my friend...
lack of workrate and dedication to giving 100% of yourself all the time on field by the senior players bar Rooey.


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Post: # 1340753Post spert »

Amongst other things, I think when Lyon left, a few senior players took their foot off the accelerator as I don't think Watters is an intense kind of coach. Of course losing Goddard and Gram had to make some difference, and we haven't had Lenny to guide the young guys in the midfield, and then there's Gilbert who was starting to get used to playing up the ground when he got injured. No wonder we are not getting hands on ball and are down the rung in most stats.


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bigcarl wrote:
Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?
The only team ranked below us on clearances is Geelong. I'm not sure that's much of a predictor of ladder position.


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Post: # 1340770Post bigcarl »

bergholt wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?
The only team ranked below us on clearances is Geelong. I'm not sure that's much of a predictor of ladder position.
What of contested possessions? How do Geelong rank in that out of interest?


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Post: # 1340788Post plugger66 »

bergholt wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Last week the Bulldogs continued that theme, obliterating the Saints at stoppages which comes as no surprise given St. Kilda’s ranking of sixteenth for contested possession and seventeenth for clearances.
Disgusting. How can we have become so bad so quickly?
The only team ranked below us on clearances is Geelong. I'm not sure that's much of a predictor of ladder position.

That will upset the tap ruckmen brigade.


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Post: # 1340831Post bergholt »

bigcarl wrote:
bergholt wrote:The only team ranked below us on clearances is Geelong. I'm not sure that's much of a predictor of ladder position.
What of contested possessions? How do Geelong rank in that out of interest?
10th.


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Re: Interesting Stats from games won and lost

Post: # 1340846Post bigcarl »

bergholt wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
bergholt wrote:The only team ranked below us on clearances is Geelong. I'm not sure that's much of a predictor of ladder position.
What of contested possessions? How do Geelong rank in that out of interest?
10th.

Ah interesting. I guess that shows that stats don't always tell the full story. Ladder position and win-loss ratio generally do, though, and ours is disgusting.


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