Milney on TSFS !!
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- markp
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 15583
- Joined: Mon 26 Mar 2007 4:22pm
- Has thanked: 63 times
- Been thanked: 82 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
I didn't know they had that feral filth supporter thing on the footy show and that she admitted using that term but they still made a bit of a celebrity of her?.... unbelievable.
Good on Milne.
Would be great if our club had gone on the front foot about all this much sooner, but what can we expect.
Good on Milne.
Would be great if our club had gone on the front foot about all this much sooner, but what can we expect.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
Cheers Teffers. It opens up the whole question of what's acceptable and what isn't doesn't it? Totally agree that continually calling a guy a rapist as though it's perfectly fine is way over the line. Totally unacceptable for people to be demonstrating to kids that this is ok. And the Footy Show making a celeb out of that Filth supporter and not condemning her for calling Milne a rapist - that just shows the level the Footy Show is at and how mainstream abuse is. The Footy Show is bogan culture dressed up in suits and validated because it's on commercial TV.Teflon wrote: Real good post St byron. Agree with all of it.
It's odd that the place where this pent up society frustration boils over is at the footy - like its the last bastion where "any behavior goes"
AFL have been negligent in this area IMHO. Setting the standards for what is acceptable behaviour should be an ongoing and important AFL intiative not something that's largely done on the back of winning kudos for supporting indigenous Australians (which is sorely needed) but this issue is even broader than that.
Its a disgrace that publicly, weekly a player is labelled a rapist and nothings done to even stand up and say this isnt on.
Where's Eddies outrage for that?
And where the hell is OUR INVISIBLE PRESIDENT???
Feel for Milne and his family - was at the G a few years ago and I reckon there was a crowd of 20 Geelong supports chanting "rapist" and comments of the like ......surrounded by kids in the area I left utterly disgusted and dismayed it could be allowed and the so called "peoples ground" allowed that level of abuse to go unchecked.
This should be Milnes last year - he has been a tremendous and loyal Saints star and his behaviour and response in the face of years of this cr@p is something I applaud him for.
Can you imagine how his kids feel hearing this trash????
Sad.
But abuse is everywhere. You only have to spend a few days on this forum to see how accepted it is to abuse, vilify and personally attack others. Can't see the point of it myself. It only creates more of the same.
Abuse and personal attacks aren't going to stop any time soon, but awareness of racial vilification started with Nicky Winmar 20 years ago and perhaps Milney has set the ball rolling with a broader awareness around what's acceptable sledging and what isn't. Certainly hope so.
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
It won't change...
Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
It would resonate with opposition fans more if he wasn't himself such a potty mouth. In no way do I condone it, but it's not a battle he will win at this late stage.
Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
It would resonate with opposition fans more if he wasn't himself such a potty mouth. In no way do I condone it, but it's not a battle he will win at this late stage.
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13331
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 682 times
- Been thanked: 1966 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????????????SainterK wrote: Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
You love a good selective quote huh?joffaboy wrote:So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????????????SainterK wrote: Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
.
Why didn't you quote my post in its entirety?
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19164
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
Not everyone has common sense. The girl apparently was unaware that calling someone with dark skin an ape is rasicst.joffaboy wrote:So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????????????SainterK wrote: Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19164
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
plugger66 wrote:The Fireman wrote:God I hope he plays another year.
Why?
I want to see him kick 600 goles.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
SaintPav wrote:plugger66 wrote:The Fireman wrote:God I hope he plays another year.
Why?
I want to see him kick 600 goles.
Thanks Fireman.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
SaintPav wrote:Not everyone has common sense. The girl apparently was unaware that calling someone with dark skin an ape is rasicst.joffaboy wrote:So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????????????SainterK wrote: Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
.
Yep, it's a learned behaviour. Or something that she hasn't learned is not ok.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 25303
- Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
- Location: Trump Tower
- Has thanked: 142 times
- Been thanked: 284 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
most non-Saints fans think Milney is a rapist and aren't afraid to say so.
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19164
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
Based on what? It's not based on fact becuause it's totally untrue. Most people wouldn't know what happend and quite a few lose any sense of common decency when they go to the football.saintspremiers wrote:most non-Saints fans think Milney is a rapist and aren't afraid to say so.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- dragit
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13047
- Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
- Has thanked: 605 times
- Been thanked: 315 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
Pretty sure Beams is too, though I wouldn't sit behind the goals yelling as much for 3 hours.saintspremiers wrote:most non-Saints fans think Milney is a rapist and aren't afraid to say so.
- SunburySaint
- Club Player
- Posts: 405
- Joined: Wed 22 Jun 2011 2:47pm
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
saintspremiers wrote:most non-Saints fans think Milney is a rapist and aren't afraid to say so.
You are right.. everyone that I have met who doesnt follow the saints always say the same thing when I mention Milne as one of my favourite players... its generally comments like " oh, the rapist" or "Typical st kilda rapist' I even had one ex work colleague (during 2010 grand final week 1) who is a filth fan, say I hope you lose and milne gets rubbed out the dirty rapist........ Needless to say she didnt realise that I was being promoted to her boss the next week and made life difficult for her to the point where she resigned..... I gladly accepted it
Now lives in Geelong...
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19164
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
I still remember the last away game against the filth I went to at the G in 2010. There was a filth fan holding a baby and calling Milne a rapist. I turned around and I asked him if he was sure and that there were defemation laws against saying that type of thing but he just nodded and said, he is mate, he is.dragit wrote:Pretty sure Beams is too, though I wouldn't sit behind the goals yelling as much for 3 hours.saintspremiers wrote:most non-Saints fans think Milney is a rapist and aren't afraid to say so.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- dragit
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13047
- Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
- Has thanked: 605 times
- Been thanked: 315 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
I have heard plenty of people refer to out team as "the rapists", cheery stuff.
I'm not really one to defend a footballer over such allegations as I have no idea what happened.
The point is I guess is that regardless of what you think of someone or what they might have done, some terms & language are just not acceptable in a public space, particularly with a large amount of children around.
I'm not too keen on taking my kids to an Essendon game and having to explain what their cheer squad is singing. Forget it.
I'm not really one to defend a footballer over such allegations as I have no idea what happened.
The point is I guess is that regardless of what you think of someone or what they might have done, some terms & language are just not acceptable in a public space, particularly with a large amount of children around.
I'm not too keen on taking my kids to an Essendon game and having to explain what their cheer squad is singing. Forget it.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2358
- Joined: Mon 09 Jun 2008 6:58pm
- Location: East of Bentleigh
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
SaintPav wrote:Not everyone has common sense. The girl apparently was unaware that calling someone with dark skin an ape is rasicst.joffaboy wrote:So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????????????SainterK wrote: Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
.
Don't worrry I had to explain to some fellow adult Saints supporters why the term "ape" is consdiered racist and why Goodes was offended.
I don't think they changed their mind from Goodes was being precious.
Reminds me of a Rchmond game two years ago when the d######d behind called Gwilt "Jemima" He may have thought
no-one else understood it's racist connatations, but I did and then had to exlain to others why I found the comment offensive.
- saintbrat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 44575
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
- Location: saints zone
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 188 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
no individual link but go to
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/afl/aflsunday/
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/afl/aflsunday/
General abuse needs to be stopped: Milne
StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
SainterK wrote:It won't change...
Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
It would resonate with opposition fans more if he wasn't himself such a potty mouth. In no way do I condone it, but it's not a battle he will win at this late stage.
So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????
Happy now?
Oh BTW what did Milne say to the Collingwood woman (whom TFS made into a celebrity) to make her call him a rapist?
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13331
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 682 times
- Been thanked: 1966 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
because so many here underrate him and I would just love to see him prove all wrong.plugger66 wrote:The Fireman wrote:God I hope he plays another year.
Why?
I think he can do it.
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13331
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 682 times
- Been thanked: 1966 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
plugger66 wrote:plugger66 wrote:The Fireman wrote:God I hope he plays another year.
Why?SaintPav wrote:I want to see him kick 600 goles.
Thanks Fireman.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 919
- Joined: Sun 29 Jan 2012 12:37pm
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 94 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
I think we should reward him too Fireman...how long do we wait for him to come good as he's surely not a good influence (chase tackle greed etc) for our development...But saying that he is popular and good to have around the club.
- saintbrat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 44575
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
- Location: saints zone
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 188 times
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
Evans said Goodes' devastation and subsequent moving explanation of his reaction, followed by Stephen Milne's admission on Sunday that he had been significantly affected by the personal attacks constantly aimed at him during games, meant the campaign could be launched at a time when vilification was fresh in football supporters' minds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Saints captain Nick Riewoldt planted the seed for the idea at AFL headquarters when the captains held their annual meeting with the commission and the league executive in March. Riewoldt told the commission he believed spectator abuse had become worse over his years in the game and Evans was prompted by an American football campaign on NFL scoreboards featuring star players.
The AFL Players Association will also re-release posters at venues featuring star footballers above the slogan: ''Our teams are made up of many colours: Wear them with pride, not prejudice.''
Milne told Channel Nine on Sunday: ''It's a bit of a touchy subject. Nothing really changes with me. What happened on Friday night was very sad for the game … But I cop a few words which aren't good for anyone. I've got a couple of kids and they go to the footy and my family and parents have to cop the abuse. So the sooner we can stamp it out the better.''
Evans said: ''We don't want people coming to the game being subjected to abuse and we don't want it to happen to our players.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z2UUhPbmKM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Saints captain Nick Riewoldt planted the seed for the idea at AFL headquarters when the captains held their annual meeting with the commission and the league executive in March. Riewoldt told the commission he believed spectator abuse had become worse over his years in the game and Evans was prompted by an American football campaign on NFL scoreboards featuring star players.
The AFL Players Association will also re-release posters at venues featuring star footballers above the slogan: ''Our teams are made up of many colours: Wear them with pride, not prejudice.''
Milne told Channel Nine on Sunday: ''It's a bit of a touchy subject. Nothing really changes with me. What happened on Friday night was very sad for the game … But I cop a few words which aren't good for anyone. I've got a couple of kids and they go to the footy and my family and parents have to cop the abuse. So the sooner we can stamp it out the better.''
Evans said: ''We don't want people coming to the game being subjected to abuse and we don't want it to happen to our players.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z2UUhPbmKM
StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Re: Milney on TSFS !!
I said the feeling towards Milne won't change while he brags about giving lip to the crowd and players.joffaboy wrote:SainterK wrote:It won't change...
Especially while Milne brags its mutual and he gives as good as he gets.
It would resonate with opposition fans more if he wasn't himself such a potty mouth. In no way do I condone it, but it's not a battle he will win at this late stage.
So Milne calls them a rapist in front of their kids??????
Happy now?
Oh BTW what did Milne say to the Collingwood woman (whom TFS made into a celebrity) to make her call him a rapist?
Not specifically that particular name calling, just in general.