Whose Up For A Clearance

[SydneySainter]

Time to get fair dinkum about McEvoy. Great around the ground, but an ordinary tap ruck at best and he's beyond the point of being a "developing" ruckman.

[Enrico_Misso]

Minson 46 hitouts

Macca 13 !!!!!!!!!!!

[Macca82]

How the hell can we lose the centre clearance count 43-26. Our midfield coach has a lot to answer for in terms of our structure. Against carlton in the last qtr we had 3 players in at the centre bounce, and tonight we let Matthew Boyd run riot to end up with 38 touches. We decided to tag griffen with jones, but let boyd do all the damage, would you not think as a coaching group you would put someone on to him. Mac plays his best footy when he is rucking one out and getting a chop out. Tonight the dogs went in with small fwds, and we could have had another small in and left Hickey out. We would have then allowed Rhys to play half in the backline and then in the ruck. We just dont appear to be a fit side, we are constantly being out run in the last qtr.

[SydneySainter]

Minson 46 hitouts

Macca 13 !!!!!!!!!!!

And Minson ain't no gun...

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The Bulldogs' clearance advantage was greater than their hitout advantage. Blaming Ben is a giant reach. We were -36 on the ground. We got crushed there. We haven't had a tap ruck since the 02 trade period and I dare anybody to find me a game where we got smacked as hard at the clearances and ground level.

[gringo]

Big Mac just frustrates me with his tap work. I would play Hickey over him as he is at least athletic enough. Fisher should be CHF, Rhys ruck resting forward, Jackson Fergasm needs to go to FB and just get games. Try Mcevoy forward anything that is better than that.

[SaintPav]

Anyone?

Let me guess..... we are rebuilding and played a more senior side with experience ??? Cause a midfield containing Dal Santo, Montagna, Hayes, Steven and Jones is inexperienced??

Nup

It was all the umpires fault??

Nup

The umpires are rebuilding??

Nup

Maybe....just maybe..... We don't have the right set ups? The right talent sitting in the coaching box??

I think Watters is a developer who NEEDS help tactically and we aren't helping him

What a disgraceful performance.

Certainly was Teflon ,maybe st pav from wa may enlighten us on the joys of Dean Laidleys coaching skills again ...

I don't need to as I never said he was any good. Show me were I said that?

I really don't remember your posts btw.

[Teflon]

Doesn't he lead the comp for contested marks?

Why not in the F50?

I thought the Sydney ruckman Pyke? lead contested marks??????

[Bernard Shakey]

Clearances are not what todays footy is about. It's all about turnovers and keeping possession. How many games have Geelong won the clearances in?

[Teflon]

Clearances are not what todays footy is about. It's all about turnovers and keeping possession. How many games have Geelong won the clearances in?

Thats true but I dont think the Cats get smacked in the middle by sides who have won 1 game from their last 19 like we did tonight????

Against Blues almost cost us the game.

[saintsRrising]

The Bulldogs' clearance advantage was greater than their hitout advantage. Blaming Ben is a giant reach. We were -36 on the ground. We got crushed there. We haven't had a tap ruck since the 02 trade period and I dare anybody to find me a game where we got smacked as hard at the clearances and ground level.

In terms of winning and clearing the ball from ruck contests I cannot ever recall a worse midfield performance than what was dished up tonight.
Absolutely smashed.

If we did occasionally win some ball, it was ineffective.

[SydneySainter]

Could it be that Macca has been poorly coached his whole career?

[Bernard Shakey]

Could it be that Macca has been poorly coached his whole career?

He's not a tap ruckman and probably never will be.

[cwrcyn]

Some basic set up issues at stoppages. Boyd on the defensive side of each stoppage and in particular, each centre bounce completely open his own and allowed to position himself as he wished? -outcome - masses of very telling centre clearances. This issue was apparent by quarter time, yet at no stage was there anything done about it.

Also, why, in the Bulldogs' forward line, was there a spare Bulldogs player left free in the centre corridor to receive a handball from the stoppage in almost every forward line stoppage - result - about 5 goals to the Bulldogs. This is such basic stuff that is done in the under 18 competition.

[Teflon]

Some basic set up issues at stoppages. Boyd on the defensive side of each stoppage and in particular, each centre bounce completely open his own and allowed to position himself as he wished? -outcome - masses of very telling centre clearances. This issue was apparent by quarter time, yet at no stage was there anything done about it.

Also, why, in the Bulldogs' forward line, was there a spare Bulldogs player left free in the centre corridor to receive a handball from the stoppage in almost every forward line stoppage - result - about 5 goals to the Bulldogs. This is such basic stuff that is done in the under 18 competition.

Well thats apparently, according to St Trav, cause we have the best in the business in Dean Laidley in charge of our mids..........same guy who looked after Port so well last year........amazing how theyve gone since they cleaned out a bunch of coaching duds.

Isnt it ironic........Chad Cornes is a new player again..........and now Dal Santo apparently cant get a kick and is shyte?????? why?????

[battye]

Isnt it ironic........Chad Cornes is a new player again..........and now Dal Santo apparently cant get a kick and is shyte?????? why?????

Huh? Has Cornes even played this year?

[bobmurray]

Could it be that Macca has been poorly coached his whole career?

He's not a tap ruckman and probably never will be.

he's only young is the ongoing excuse on here...have we ditched that now... i need to keep up with continually changing opinions...

i wish we had less experts..it would make it easier to stay informed..

What is an expert......maybeexperts aren't a reliable source of info..too bad really...who else can we rely on...forums are full of ?

hardly fills one with confidence...

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he's only young is the ongoing excuse on here...

Hitouts don't correlate with clearances which don't correlate with wins. Ben's really good at things that matter, so if there's an 'excuse' for him, it's that. BS is right, he probably won't ever be a tap ruckman. It probably won't ever matter either.

[Teflon]

Isnt it ironic........Chad Cornes is a new player again..........and now Dal Santo apparently cant get a kick and is shyte?????? why?????

Huh? Has Cornes even played this year?

apologies Kane Cornes who is avergaing 28 DISPOSALS a game......he was at cross roads last year.....now 8th in league for disposals this year.

[Teflon]

he's only young is the ongoing excuse on here...

Hitouts don't correlate with clearances which don't correlate with wins. Ben's really good at things that matter, so if there's an 'excuse' for him, it's that. BS is right, he probably won't ever be a tap ruckman. It probably won't ever matter either.

Them why not stick a midget in at the centre bounce? simply forfeit every tapout.....it doesnt matter right?

I find that strange...sure, it may not decide the final clearance but you have to wonder what damage a good ruck who can out it to advantage can do.

[Greg T]

Some basic set up issues at stoppages. Boyd on the defensive side of each stoppage and in particular, each centre bounce completely open his own and allowed to position himself as he wished? -outcome - masses of very telling centre clearances. This issue was apparent by quarter time, yet at no stage was there anything done about it.

Also, why, in the Bulldogs' forward line, was there a spare Bulldogs player left free in the centre corridor to receive a handball from the stoppage in almost every forward line stoppage - result - about 5 goals to the Bulldogs. This is such basic stuff that is done in the under 18 competition.

Stoppages cost us 10 goals tonite ...very poor