Whose Up For A Clearance

[Teflon]

Anyone?

Let me guess..... we are rebuilding and played a more senior side with experience ??? Cause a midfield containing Dal Santo, Montagna, Hayes, Steven and Jones is inexperienced??

Nup

It was all the umpires fault??

Nup

The umpires are rebuilding??

Nup

Maybe....just maybe..... We don't have the right set ups? The right talent sitting in the coaching box??

I think Watters is a developer who NEEDS help tactically and we aren't helping him

What a disgraceful performance.

[Munga]

Might be time to promote Curren and bring him straight in

[savatage]

Tommy Ledger needs to come in. Clearance king. Yes we've all heard about disposal blah blah...but C Jones seems to get games.

[saintspremiers]

Yes Watters isn't a master coach by a million miles.

[SainterK]

It's not the coaches box

Ben isn't a tap ruckman and played v someone who is.

Tap to advantage and dogs goal, was hard to watch

[battye]

I think this is a ruck problem to be honest. McEvoy has always been poor with hitouts to advantage, so right away the midfielders have an uphill task.
If their job is to rove off the opposition ruckman, why bother having a ruckman at all.

It's an area where McEvoy needs to improve. Just one area that's obvious from TV is that he never times his jump well.

[Greg T]

Anyone?

Let me guess..... we are rebuilding and played a more senior side with experience ??? Cause a midfield containing Dal Santo, Montagna, Hayes, Steven and Jones is inexperienced??

Nup

It was all the umpires fault??

Nup

The umpires are rebuilding??

Nup

Maybe....just maybe..... We don't have the right set ups? The right talent sitting in the coaching box??

I think Watters is a developer who NEEDS help tactically and we aren't helping him

What a disgraceful performance.

Certainly was Teflon ,maybe st pav from wa may enlighten us on the joys of Dean Laidleys coaching skills again ...

[Teflon]

It's not the coaches box

Ben isn't a tap ruckman and played v someone who is.

Tap to advantage and dogs goal, was hard to watch

Oh it's the coaches Box

I don't think bens ever gonna be a tap ruck

[savatage]

Ben's biggest problem is that for a big guy he has absolutely no physical presence with the contest.

[SainterK]

It's not the coaches box

Ben isn't a tap ruckman and played v someone who is.

Tap to advantage and dogs goal, was hard to watch

Oh it's the coaches Box

I don't think bens ever gonna be a tap ruck

Disagree

Ben tells them what he's going to do and then his opponent does what he was going to do

Would rather the guys position to apply pressure and tackles

[battye]

Either way, McEvoy is the best we've got. Let's just hope that in a few years time when the current dominant rucks have retired, McEvoy by default becomes one of the premier rucks in the league.

[Teflon]

It's not the coaches box

Ben isn't a tap ruckman and played v someone who is.

Tap to advantage and dogs goal, was hard to watch

Disagree

Ben tells them what he's going to do and then his opponent does what he was going to do

Would rather the guys position to apply pressure and tackles

If thats so it will be up the coaches to fix it - its their problem.

No side can continue to give away the ball out of the middle like we do. Even when we do get a clearance as someone else on here pointed out and it was obvious tonight......its a scrambled, shanked, mongrel scrub forward with no purpose.

BIG PROBLEM this one.

[perfectionist]

The only time we looked like getting it away was when Tom Hickey was in the centre. Ben was slaughtered and has been, in the ruck, all year. He can't jump at all so is never going to improve.

[SainterK]

Goodness i agree with you.

He was better for being in there as well

[Spinner]

What is with this myth that he is a developer of kids? It hasn't happened yet!

It might but not yet...

[Teflon]

What is with this myth that he is a developer of kids? It hasn't happened yet!

It might but not yet...

compare to his predecessor hes just about Les Tentyman youth worker

[Munga]

I'll sound like GT here, but ruckman are a waste of time if they can't ruck!
In 2004 we had crap ruckmen, pretty much just Knobel with a side of Blake and Kosi. Rubbish hitouts.
BUT we were awesome with the clearances with Harvey, Hayes, Thompson and Powell.

Our guys should be playing every ruck contest like we'll lose it. Much improvement will come.

[SainterK]

What is with this myth that he is a developer of kids? It hasn't happened yet!

It might but not yet...

Wright, Geary, Steven, Newnes, Webster all showing a bit

Saad Milera dreaded second year blues IMO

[savatage]

It's not second year blues K.

Saad is not clean enough but he has a physical presence. Milera has probably got the cleanest or one of the cleanest skill sets in the league - with absolutely no physical presence. That means that unfortuntely Milera will probably not make it at this level, at least not consistently. Saad can IF he improves his hands. If he can get the ball the first grab rather than fumbling it 3 times - then we have a player.

[Teflon]

I'll sound like GT here, but ruckman are a waste of time if they can't ruck!

THATS the dilemma I was praying we could avoid..........but McEvoy cant ruck..its frightening, I hate it but its becoming clear..........we just cant get first hands tof the ball.

Sadly, hes great round the ground......

[SainterK]

I'll sound like GT here, but ruckman are a waste of time if they can't ruck!

THATS the dilemma I was praying we could avoid..........but McEvoy cant ruck..its frightening, I hate it but its becoming clear..........we just cant get first hands tof the ball.

Sadly, hes great round the ground......

If they are going to persist with 2 rucks, why isn't he played forward and hickey in the ruck?

[perfectionist]

...If they are going to persist with 2 rucks, why isn't he played forward and hickey in the ruck?

They did that, but Ben was hopeless on the rebound. Ben's best work is reading the play in the back half. Alas, you can't sub defence for offence whilst the ball is in play.

[Teflon]

I'll sound like GT here, but ruckman are a waste of time if they can't ruck!

THATS the dilemma I was praying we could avoid..........but McEvoy cant ruck..its frightening, I hate it but its becoming clear..........we just cant get first hands tof the ball.

Sadly, hes great round the ground......

If they are going to persist with 2 rucks, why isn't he played forward and hickey in the ruck?

That MOVES the problem it doesnt fix it.

The question is: Can you carry a ruckman who cant win a tap out to advantage?????????????????????????

Around the ground is one thing...........the game starts in the middle and how often do we see one quick out of their and an opposition goal??

tough question this given his age.

[SainterK]

Doesn't he lead the comp for contested marks?

Why not in the F50?

[saintspremiers]

Over to you again barks4eva.