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Hickey? !!

Post: # 1336044Post Eastern »

On tonight's showing, definitely NOT a forward. Didn't look up to standard as a ruckman either. Has a long way to go !!


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Just need to keep playing him He's vary raw but shows some natural talent and awareness in brief patches. Keep playing him. Keep Maister out unless we are well short of talls.


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Cairnsman wrote:Just need to keep playing him He's vary raw but shows some natural talent and awareness in brief patches. Keep playing him. Keep Maister out unless we are well short of talls.

Agree with both these points. Hickey was disappointing tonight but has to keep playing, and Maister......I would have preferred Siposs from the start. I know Rutten would have monstered him, but I would prefer siposs run Rutten around and get beat than stand there and get beat like Maister did tonight.


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Post: # 1336076Post 8856brother »

He's still very young. He will be ok.


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I ridiculed Mick for pretending Hampson is a forward, and we go and do the same.


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Post: # 1336079Post Jacks Back »

Moods wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:Just need to keep playing him He's vary raw but shows some natural talent and awareness in brief patches. Keep playing him. Keep Maister out unless we are well short of talls.

Agree with both these points. Hickey was disappointing tonight but has to keep playing, and Maister......I would have preferred Siposs from the start. I know Rutten would have monstered him, but I would prefer siposs run Rutten around and get beat than stand there and get beat like Maister did tonight.
The only thing is that Siposs can't run more than 5 yards. And I like the boy.


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Post: # 1336093Post BigMart »

Hickey has a long way to go.... And he will never be a forwards ass.... Cannot take a grab

He is a tap Ruckman only, and nowhere near as good as McEvoy as a #1.... Can't be a #2 because he will be a liability anywhere else....

Tonight he was shocking really


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BigMart wrote:Hickey has a long way to go.... And he will never be a forwards ass.... Cannot take a grab

He is a tap Ruckman only, and nowhere near as good as McEvoy as a #1.... Can't be a #2 because he will be a liability anywhere else....

Tonight he was shocking really

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Post: # 1336098Post dragit »

The elephant in the room here is McEvoy

90% game time, 8 disposals, 15 hitouts, 50 DT points

Hickey (an absolute junior)
75% game time, 9 disposals, 4 hitouts 45 DT points

I expect Hickey to have some shockers at this stage, will probably take many games before he becomes consistent.

Pretty ordinary stuff from our supposed skipper in waiting though.


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Post: # 1336104Post bigcarl »

Cairnsman wrote:Just need to keep playing him He's vary raw but shows some natural talent and awareness in brief patches. Keep playing him. Keep Maister out unless we are well short of talls.
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BigMart wrote:Hickey has a long way to go.... And he will never be a forwards ass.... Cannot take a grab

He is a tap Ruckman only, and nowhere near as good as McEvoy as a #1.... Can't be a #2 because he will be a liability anywhere else....

Tonight he was shocking really

What he said. As I posted on the match thread hope he proves me wrong but I can't see a glimpse of why they felt compelled to give up so much for Hickey.


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Post: # 1336160Post BigMart »

Should of looked for a fwd Ruckman.... Actually we have a really good one of those playing FB so perhaps a key defender for Pick 12 and not a #1 Ruckman.... List composition is important.


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Post: # 1336173Post Enrico_Misso »

CANNOT kick !!!


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Post: # 1336180Post whiskers3614 »

Not writing him off yet.
Not good tonight but how many were?


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SainterK wrote:I ridiculed Mick for pretending Hampson is a forward, and we go and do the same.
This.

Needs to ruck. But we have a ruckman already. Hmm


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dcstkfc wrote:
SainterK wrote:I ridiculed Mick for pretending Hampson is a forward, and we go and do the same.
This.

Needs to ruck. But we have a ruckman already. Hmm
I'll probably have to duck for cover, but give him a crack at it for one week.

Played immensely better in the last quarter v the Blues when the #1...

I'm curious as to how he works with our mids, not how he works in the F50.


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SainterK wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:
SainterK wrote:I ridiculed Mick for pretending Hampson is a forward, and we go and do the same.
This.

Needs to ruck. But we have a ruckman already. Hmm
I'll probably have to duck for cover, but give him a crack at it for one week.

Played immensely better in the last quarter v the Blues when the #1...

I'm curious as to how he works with our mids, not how he works in the F50.

Ben was clearly in the best 3 last week. maybe you need to watch the game again. Ben deserves and will be number one ruckman. If Hickey cant play forward then he doesnt play but we dont ruck him because he cant play forward.


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plugger66 wrote:Ben was clearly in the best 3 last week. maybe you need to watch the game again. Ben deserves and will be number one ruckman. If Hickey cant play forward then he doesnt play but we dont ruck him because he cant play forward.
Yeah, but how much of this impact on the game was in the ruck?

He is a RUCKman, and I'm yet convinced on his hitouts, and work in the centre circle....our mids seem equally confused, we just cannot rely on pressuring the ball carrier every week, and chasing the ball winner.


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Ben was clearly in the best 3 last week. maybe you need to watch the game again. Ben deserves and will be number one ruckman. If Hickey cant play forward then he doesnt play but we dont ruck him because he cant play forward.
Yeah, but how much of this impact on the game was in the ruck?

He is a RUCKman, and I'm yet convinced on his hitouts, and work in the centre circle....our mids seem equally confused, we just cannot rely on pressuring the ball carrier every week, and chasing the ball winner.

So were does Ben play?


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Post: # 1336219Post lloyd21 »

Keep playing him

Keep playing him

Keep playing him


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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote: So were does Ben play?

'around the ground' is a term used to justify his position, but we are still being murdered in the middle. Ruckmans HAVE to dominate the ruck to justify their spot, don't they?


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:

'around the ground' is a term used to justify his position, but we are still being murdered in the middle. Ruckmans HAVE to dominate the ruck to justify their spot, don't they?
So where does ben play?


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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:

'around the ground' is a term used to justify his position, but we are still being murdered in the middle. Ruckmans HAVE to dominate the ruck to justify their spot, don't they?
So where does ben play?
Meh.

I'll brave it.

Sandy, for at least a week...to see how Hickey goes as our ruck.

Seen guys like Goldstein dropped, because modern footy is so dependant on these guys giving the mids an advantage.


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Post: # 1336235Post Spud02 »

Starting to look like we payed overs...can't carry a No.2 ruckman who can't play elsewhere now that there's only three interchange


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Post: # 1336237Post whiskers3614 »

plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:

'around the ground' is a term used to justify his position, but we are still being murdered in the middle. Ruckmans HAVE to dominate the ruck to justify their spot, don't they?
So where does ben play?
Deep forward? can't possibly be worse than Beau.


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