Ins/Outs for next week
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Ins/Outs for next week
Out: Maister (back too early - not his fault), Saad, Milera, Ray
In: Curren, Jones, Simpkin, Shenton
Be a bit radical. We're playing the Dogs, and they're just awful too.
FB: Roberton // Gwilt // Simpkin
HB: Geary // Fisher // Dempster
CR: Newnes // Jones // Montagna
RK: McEvoy // Armitage // Steven
HF: Shenton // Riewoldt // Dal Santo
FF: Milne // Siposs // Hickey
Int: Stanley (as a FWD) // Ross // Webster (sub) // Curren
In: Curren, Jones, Simpkin, Shenton
Be a bit radical. We're playing the Dogs, and they're just awful too.
FB: Roberton // Gwilt // Simpkin
HB: Geary // Fisher // Dempster
CR: Newnes // Jones // Montagna
RK: McEvoy // Armitage // Steven
HF: Shenton // Riewoldt // Dal Santo
FF: Milne // Siposs // Hickey
Int: Stanley (as a FWD) // Ross // Webster (sub) // Curren
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Ray out is laughable. Agree with Maister and one of Milera/Saad.
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Should be 4 changes after that rubbish, especially with a second consecutive 6 day break coming up.
Nearly any other team would make a minimum of 4 changes for good reason.
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Don't get too cocky. The Dogs will come to play against us. Agree Maister to go out and Jones in. He should have come in for Wright this week. And one of Saad or Milera out for sure. They should both go out based on tonight but would unbalance things too much.Uncle Barrels wrote:Out: Maister (back too early - not his fault), Saad, Milera, Ray
In: Curren, Jones, Simpkin, Shenton
Be a bit radical. We're playing the Dogs, and they're just awful too.
FB: Roberton // Gwilt // Simpkin
HB: Geary // Fisher // Dempster
CR: Newnes // Jones // Montagna
RK: McEvoy // Armitage // Steven
HF: Shenton // Riewoldt // Dal Santo
FF: Milne // Siposs // Hickey
Int: Stanley (as a FWD) // Ross // Webster (sub) // Curren
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
I don't belive its laughable at all. Ray's got courage and ability, but his kicking is often atrocious and undoes all of his good work. We can't afford to carry that at the moment.Little Dozer wrote:Ray out is laughable. Agree with Maister and one of Milera/Saad.
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Not cocky at all. They'll come to play alright, but they're a poor football side. As are we currently. We might as well experiment because I don't belive they're good enough to ten-goal flog us.Cairnsman wrote:Don't get too cocky. The Dogs will come to play against us. Agree Maister to go out and Jones in. He should have come in for Wright this week. And one of Saad or Milera out for sure. They should both go out based on tonight but would unbalance things too much.Uncle Barrels wrote:Out: Maister (back too early - not his fault), Saad, Milera, Ray
In: Curren, Jones, Simpkin, Shenton
Be a bit radical. We're playing the Dogs, and they're just awful too.
FB: Roberton // Gwilt // Simpkin
HB: Geary // Fisher // Dempster
CR: Newnes // Jones // Montagna
RK: McEvoy // Armitage // Steven
HF: Shenton // Riewoldt // Dal Santo
FF: Milne // Siposs // Hickey
Int: Stanley (as a FWD) // Ross // Webster (sub) // Curren
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
You are pathologically obsessed with ArmitageSpinner wrote:Out: Armitage.
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Gotta agree with changing out one of the small forwards as we need more midfield grunt and atm Curren is the form I see ball I get ball player, and he is OK up forward too. Saad still provides more than Milera atm.Uncle Barrels wrote:Out: Maister (back too early - not his fault), Saad, Milera, Ray
In: Curren, Jones, Simpkin, Shenton
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I don't care what they do, as long as we have a different looking, less predictable, more potent forward line. Time for a rookie upgrade.
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
I have read all the negatives about Ledger. No vision. Rushes his kicks etc. but why not give him a go now? Gets the hard ball. Wins a lot of possessions and can kick goals. Gets clearances. Haven't we seen enough of Milera? Let's you down when the pressure is on. Ledger may not be good enough but let's find out now, before he wants out. I thought he was alright towards the end of last year. I can guarantee one thing, he'll have ago.
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On tonight's performance there needs to be a number of changes. Our back half looks alright. Our mids really lacked in a couple of areas. 1. Real grunt and 2. Gut running. Our forward 1/2 has some real problems at the moment. Tonight we had 4 x Stay at home forwards in Maister, Milne, Milera & Saad. This made it too easy for the Crows to read our play and create most of their scoring opportunities from deep in defence (How many times did they go Coast to Coast?). We desperately need a couple of "High Forwards" who can take their turn in the midfield and I don't think we have them in the Sandy side either. So, who do we bring in? We have to look at either Lee or Kosi to replace Maister who definitely needs a run or two at Sandy. We also need to look at Jones and Dunnell too. We also badly miss the hardness of Lenny and the class of Schneids. Yeah, there should be 3 or 4 changes next week, but who comes in and who goes out is anyone's guess !!
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And got some serious wheels. Not a ridiculous shout.hayes66 wrote:I have read all the negatives about Ledger. No vision. Rushes his kicks etc. but why not give him a go now? Gets the hard ball. Wins a lot of possessions and can kick goals. Gets clearances. Haven't we seen enough of Milera? Let's you down when the pressure is on. Ledger may not be good enough but let's find out now, before he wants out. I thought he was alright towards the end of last year. I can guarantee one thing, he'll have ago.
Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Uncle Barrels wrote:I don't belive its laughable at all. Ray's got courage and ability, but his kicking is often atrocious and undoes all of his good work. We can't afford to carry that at the moment.Little Dozer wrote:Ray out is laughable. Agree with Maister and one of Milera/Saad.
Well it is laughable in my opinion. Did he job OK tonight and was excellent last week.
Maister should play next week. Dogs haven't got the backline of Adelaide and we can stretch them in the forwards.
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I have absolutely no confidence when Saad gets the ball. And once again, he leads for the ball as if he's a marking forward and it lands up being a rebound 99 times out of 100. He has to go. Where is Schneider???
Siposs should play a full game, he isn't the right type to be the sub.
Maister to go out, was useless. But who to come in? Lee, Kosi, Dunnell? Hickey was pretty poor as well but he should probably stay.
Unless Stanley goes forward and we replace him down back with someone who is already in or with Simpkin. But Stanley has never had a single good game as a forward.
I'd like to see Curren and Ledger at least be given an opportunity to prove themselves on the big stage. They are consistent performers for Sandy and it is only right to reward effort. What's the worst thing that can happen? Another bad kick? Jones will probably come in anyway sometime so what's the difference?
Siposs should play a full game, he isn't the right type to be the sub.
Maister to go out, was useless. But who to come in? Lee, Kosi, Dunnell? Hickey was pretty poor as well but he should probably stay.
Unless Stanley goes forward and we replace him down back with someone who is already in or with Simpkin. But Stanley has never had a single good game as a forward.
I'd like to see Curren and Ledger at least be given an opportunity to prove themselves on the big stage. They are consistent performers for Sandy and it is only right to reward effort. What's the worst thing that can happen? Another bad kick? Jones will probably come in anyway sometime so what's the difference?
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Milera is the obvious one that has to go. His game tonight was one of the worst performances I've seen from a saints player. Lazy, dumb, soft and slow. He might be too good for state level but that doesn't mean he's good enough for the AFL.
Maister and Hickey were both ineffective tonight, honestly I would have much preferred to have Kosi in as the FF/second ruck and have another midfielder in the side. But coming up against Minson at Etihad I imagine we'll keep two rucks and Kosi loses that extra bit of value if we don't need him to give a chop out. Unless he pulls up sore I'd expect Maister to stay.
The kids were mostly ok. Newnes got plenty of it, Ross continues to show far more class and composure than most of his senior team mates, Webster had a decent game and Siposs had a bit of impact, though I think he's a terrible choice for sub. What really let us down tonight were poor performances from senior players - Armitage, McEvoy, Fisher and Milne were all very ordinary.
What I'd do
Out: Milera, Maister, Hickey
In: Ledger, Simpkin, Kosi
B: Gwilt, Simpkin, Dempster
HB: Webster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Geary, Armitage, Montagna
HF: Siposs, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Kosi, Stanley
Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Dal Santo
Int: Ray, Newnes, Ross
Sub: Ledger
What I expect will happen
Out: Milera
In: TDL
Maister and Hickey were both ineffective tonight, honestly I would have much preferred to have Kosi in as the FF/second ruck and have another midfielder in the side. But coming up against Minson at Etihad I imagine we'll keep two rucks and Kosi loses that extra bit of value if we don't need him to give a chop out. Unless he pulls up sore I'd expect Maister to stay.
The kids were mostly ok. Newnes got plenty of it, Ross continues to show far more class and composure than most of his senior team mates, Webster had a decent game and Siposs had a bit of impact, though I think he's a terrible choice for sub. What really let us down tonight were poor performances from senior players - Armitage, McEvoy, Fisher and Milne were all very ordinary.
What I'd do
Out: Milera, Maister, Hickey
In: Ledger, Simpkin, Kosi
B: Gwilt, Simpkin, Dempster
HB: Webster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Geary, Armitage, Montagna
HF: Siposs, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Kosi, Stanley
Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Dal Santo
Int: Ray, Newnes, Ross
Sub: Ledger
What I expect will happen
Out: Milera
In: TDL
Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Schneider is 4 weeks away.FQF wrote:I have absolutely no confidence when Saad gets the ball. And once again, he leads for the ball as if he's a marking forward and it lands up being a rebound 99 times out of 100. He has to go. Where is Schneider???
Cant go the full 4 qtrs, would needed to be subbed off.FQF wrote:Siposs should play a full game, he isn't the right type to be the sub.
First game back and dogs will be a bit easier, but would rather see Lee there anywayFQF wrote:Maister to go out, was useless. But who to come in? Lee, Kosi, Dunnell?
Need to get more games into him, showing a little bit but only a pup.FQF wrote:Hickey was pretty poor as well but he should probably stay.
Agreed, would like to see Curran or Ledger given a go.FQF wrote:I'd like to see Curren and Ledger at least be given an opportunity to prove themselves on the big stage. They are consistent performers for Sandy and it is only right to reward effort. What's the worst thing that can happen? Another bad kick? Jones will probably come in anyway sometime so what's the difference?
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Uncle Barrels wrote:I don't belive its laughable at all. Ray's got courage and ability, but his kicking is often atrocious and undoes all of his good work. We can't afford to carry that at the moment.Little Dozer wrote:Ray out is laughable. Agree with Maister and one of Milera/Saad.
Ha Ha and you want Jones in for his kicking ..??? Ray stays ..!!
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I don't want Jones for his kicking pal, I want him for his clearance work, at which we got flogged, and which Farren doesn't have a particular impact in the roles he plays.Middo wrote:Uncle Barrels wrote:I don't belive its laughable at all. Ray's got courage and ability, but his kicking is often atrocious and undoes all of his good work. We can't afford to carry that at the moment.Little Dozer wrote:Ray out is laughable. Agree with Maister and one of Milera/Saad.
Ha Ha and you want Jones in for his kicking ..??? Ray stays ..!!
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Out Maister and Milera - in Siposs and Kosi and really stretch the dogs defense. Although many players were down tonight IMO I would be reluctant to make multiple changes and avoid being too unsettling.
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I would rather us not play one short.nickblake wrote:Out Maister and Milera - in Siposs and Kosi and really stretch the dogs defense. Although many players were down tonight IMO I would be reluctant to make multiple changes and avoid being too unsettling.
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Re: Ins/Outs for next week
Dude siposs is already in...nickblake wrote:Out Maister and Milera - in Siposs and Kosi and really stretch the dogs defense. Although many players were down tonight IMO I would be reluctant to make multiple changes and avoid being too unsettling.