A Star Recruit for 2014

[Stephen Theodore]

Daniel Rich has a great left boot, is still young, and is now an A.grader

[noob]

Will we ever have any decent father and sons?

[cwrcyn]

GWS have an abundance of midfielders, but from a trade perspective we have nothing to offer, as we are short of players in the essential categories of midfield and key position. Are there any 196cm+ players apart from Watts that are worth a look?

[matrix]

id move heaven and hell to get joel selwood
that bloke is a gun

[Zed]

Id be looking at GWS or GC lists. Age profiles fit what we are after.

[SaintPav]

How did we actually get them? I vaguely remember that Frase was playing various positions at West Coast and wasn't in great form for a year or two. Why did Sammy come across? Was it just money or was there something else going on?

Sammy pretty much did a dash for cash. That's why the Scumbagger fans were so upset at him for so long. John Elliot called it "greed and a lack of loyalty" after he left. Biggest whingers in the history of the game. I mean, how many star players did they poach in the past? Diesel Williams, Justin Madden, Rhys-Jones, (our own) Val Perovic etc...

Can't recall how Fraser was going in his last year at the Eagles and what terms he left. I'm pretty sure he wanted to return to Melbourne, which may have been the main reason for him to join us. It did take him a while to fully find his feet as a Saint. He didn't really become a permanent full forward until 2003, if I remember properly.

WC did ok out of the Gherig deal. They used their draft pick on Daniel Kerr.

[BigMart]

Why would any of those players move to StK if the are happy with the terms of their deals, or could get the same offer at another club with better prospects

We would need a disgruntled player
Or
Go home factor
Or
An an under valued player, who is possibly in a queue or out of favour...

Eg, Gardiner, Gehrig, Hamill, Voss, Powell, Black, Ray, Schnieder, Gram, Dempster

All successful and left for one of those reasons...

Are we an attractive club to want to go to..... Did Caddy even consider StK?!

[suss]

We're better off chasing a big name through free agency when we're ready to launch our next assault on a flag - similar to what Essendon did with Goddard or Geelong with Ottens. If we chase players who aren't free agents then we'll be giving up draft picks to get them and we need to keep and use all the picks we have - for now.

[ShanghaiSaint]

Majak Daw would be great.... love to see him up forward with Nick.

[BigMart]

Draft picks don't guarantee anything...

We need to he's throng on development

[White Winmar]

Has Tony Locket had any sons yet?

All daughters

I have it on good authority that Plugger has a son, about 20 now, who is running around in a suburban league. He was very special as a junior, winning several competition best and fairests. He did his knee in his u/18 TAC year and missed out on being drafted. Subsequently went off the rails. The boy in question was a giant lump of a kid, who dominated in his early years, mainly due to his size. When my source told me who it was, I wasn't surprised. The kid played a couple of years with my son. When the son of plugger call was made to me, it sounded plausible because of the striking resemblance.

I wonder how many so-called illegitimate sons of ex-saints might be running around out there? Barker, Roberts, Greene, Nettlefold and GT were all megastars in the saints disco, if not always on the ground.

[bigred]

Hell yeah bring back Burnsy.
This team needs more nugget.

[big_mac_evoy5]

Taylor walker
Patrick dangerfield
Frawley also if he was cheap throw in jack watts or blease

[Sainternist]

Why would any of those players move to StK if the are happy with the terms of their deals, or could get the same offer at another club with better prospects

We would need a disgruntled player
Or
Go home factor
Or
An an under valued player, who is possibly in a queue or out of favour...

Eg, Gardiner, Gehrig, Hamill, Voss, Powell, Black, Ray, Schnieder, Gram, Dempster

All successful and left for one of those reasons...

Are we an attractive club to want to go to..... Did Caddy even consider StK?!

Where's your sense of fun, BM?

This thread was meant to be about hypotheticals.

What is wrong with dreaming about a star player joining our club? C'mon, lighten up.

[gringo]

Majak Daw would be great.... love to see him up forward with Nick.

I said we should draft him on here and was told he was crap. He is an astounding athlete.

[Eastern]

What we really need is 1 or 2 High Risk-High Reward type players that we can get on the cheap (and they come through for us as well). Josh Hill from Bulldogs to West Coast is the perfect example.

I do admit that these are Very Rare, but they do bob up from time to time !!

[BigMart]

If you get them on the cheap.... Why are they high risk?

High risk is an injury ridden Brad Ottens at 27yo for pick 12

Three premierships later...

[bergholt]

High risk is an injury ridden Brad Ottens at 27yo for pick 12

27? Ottens was 24 when Geelong picked him up, 25 when he played his first Cats game.

And he'd averaged 19.5 games a year for the Tiges in the six years before that. Played 18 in 2004 when he got traded. Injured a bit, but not as much as you're suggesting.

[plugger66]

High risk is an injury ridden Brad Ottens at 27yo for pick 12

27? Ottens was 24 when Geelong picked him up, 25 when he played his first Cats game.

Facts havent been a strong point.

[stinger]

Majak Daw would be great.... love to see him up forward with Nick.

I said we should draft him on here and was told he was crap. He is an astounding athlete.

not to mention that he comes with a whole new community of support......he's going to be a real gem of a player...imho...that is.....

[groupie1]

I personally rate the Jack Watts trade option - but what role are we asking him to fill?

Wouldn't it be a fairytale to see Roo take him under his wing and show him how to train (elite fitness) and work his arse off to become one of the premier CHF's in the league?

Our 2nd round pick will be lowish, say 23-24. Would that pick do it? Or perhaps Farren Ray and our 3rd round pick?

For Jack Watts? f*** that - pick 50 and a slab of VB, and a low salary. He's a big risk... we want it to cost nothing to take it... though the Frawley combo looks good.

How about Howe, Frawley and Watts for Gilbert, Ray and pick 25?

[groupie1]

How did we actually get them? I vaguely remember that Frase was playing various positions at West Coast and wasn't in great form for a year or two. Why did Sammy come across? Was it just money or was there something else going on?

Sammy pretty much did a dash for cash. That's why the Scumbagger fans were so upset at him for so long. John Elliot called it "greed and a lack of loyalty" after he left. Biggest whingers in the history of the game. I mean, how many star players did they poach in the past? Diesel Williams, Justin Madden, Rhys-Jones, (our own) Val Perovic etc...

Can't recall how Fraser was going in his last year at the Eagles and what terms he left. I'm pretty sure he wanted to return to Melbourne, which may have been the main reason for him to join us. It did take him a while to fully find his feet as a Saint. He didn't really become a permanent full forward until 2003, if I remember properly.

WC did ok out of the Gherig deal. They used their draft pick on Daniel Kerr.

I wanna correct a couple things:
That splurge got us THREE good contributors: Hamill, Gehrig and Brett Voss.
Second, Hamill left Carlton after he was publicly berated by Elliott at the Carlton B&F.

[groupie1]

We're better off chasing a big name through free agency when we're ready to launch our next assault on a flag - similar to what Essendon did with Goddard or Geelong with Ottens. If we chase players who aren't free agents then we'll be giving up draft picks to get them and we need to keep and use all the picks we have - for now.

Mate, the promise shown by Mordoch, Hickey, Saunders, Roberton, Wright, Newnes, Ross, Stanley and hopefully Siposs gets it together, (not sure about Dunnell, to be honest), plus Ferguson, add a fit Schneider and Gwilt in, add Tom Lee works out, hope the veterans keep plugging away, and let's speculate Spencer White get a second half of the year crack at it.... a couple of solid big body pick ups in midfield and we are right back in it for one last Roo-Hayes tilt...... and also, the future looks bright.

Let's get bullish.

[St Ick]

Parker, Fyfe or Adams through the mids please.

Parker is a Langy boy so go home factor would put us in a good position.

Fyfe, unsure of contract status, but kids a freak along with HeppD and Martin (for their age).

Adams, is the best of the unsigned players and will be good if attitude comes good (Caddy anyone?).

[groupie1]

Jack Darling, Rory Thompson and Nat Fyfe

A forward, a back and a gun mid

I like it a lot