God Saad's goal routine annoys me

[Junction Oval]

It's different, fascinatingly visual, not the perfect leg action ........ but it is working beautifully

I just hope that the umpires don't try to umpire him away from his unique approach. Has anyone been timing him?

[oh when the]

he nows runs back to get ready for his kick -
he has 20 secs from when the ump calls to start run up
- thats my understanding

[Munga]

Who cares? He's one of the best kicks going around. Everyone has whinged about how goalkicking hasn't improved in the history of footy. The up pops Saad with a different approach, a dead eye dick, and everyone has another whinge ffs.

[joffaboy]

Who cares? He's one of the best kicks going around. Everyone has whinged about how goalkicking hasn't improved in the history of footy. The up pops Saad with a different approach, a dead eye dick, and everyone has another whinge ffs.

Not everyone, only me

And I hope to whinge about it 6-8 times a match

[Junction Oval]

Oh When The - said :
[quote]he nows runs back to get ready for his kick - he has 20 secs from when the ump calls to start run up[quote]


I noticed that too - running back to the mark. Does the umpire call to start the run-up, or is it 20 secs from when the mark/free is paid?

[bigcarl]

Focusing too much on what you're doing is actually a bad thing. Your body knows what to do, so you actually need to be able to get your mind out of the way.

You're right. I'll use that one on the golf course this afternoon.

[perfectionist]

...is it 20 secs from when the mark/free is paid?

It's 30 seconds from when the mark or free is paid, provided time off is not called. The period between when time off is called and then called back on again is not counted in the 30 seconds.

[plugger66]

...is it 20 secs from when the mark/free is paid?

It's 30 seconds from when the mark or free is paid, provided time off is not called. The period between when time off is called and then called back on again is not counted in the 30 seconds.

I think they changed it that you must start your run up by 20 seconds now. Well thats what they said on TV last round.

[perfectionist]

Tony Lockett (70% eff)

Closer to 75%, I think, when kicking for goal.

Kicked 1360 goals and 590 behinds - 69.74% (the records don't show how many complete misses, for any player, nor the number of behinds kicked pre 1974).

[saintspremiers]

He's Egyptian and is unique for his goal kicking.

Good marketing opportunity

[skeptic]

I don't think he missed any completely

[perfectionist]

..I think they changed it that you must start your run up by 20 seconds now. Well thats what they said on TV last round.

Dunno who "they" might be, but whoever it was, they misspoke.
From here:
http://aflcommunityclub.com.au/fileadmi ... hanges.pdf

Other amendments to reduce “dead” time and increase % ball in play:
o Further tighten the time taken to restart play following goals (approx. 27 sec saving per game by reducing time between goal and centre bounce by 1 sec)
o Minimise delays due to blood rule by allowing replacement player to come on immediately after blood rule is indicated by umpire, and not allowing excess time for injured player to exit the field (but still allowing sufficient time to assist injury management).
o Heavier sanctions for clubs not complying with quarter start times.
o Stricter enforcement of 30 sec limit on set shots for goal.

Also see:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2f6aq.html

[plugger66]

..I think they changed it that you must start your run up by 20 seconds now. Well thats what they said on TV last round.

Dunno who "they" might be, but whoever it was, they misspoke.
From here:
http://aflcommunityclub.com.au/fileadmi ... hanges.pdf

Other amendments to reduce “dead” time and increase % ball in play:
o Further tighten the time taken to restart play following goals (approx. 27 sec saving per game by reducing time between goal and centre bounce by 1 sec)
o Minimise delays due to blood rule by allowing replacement player to come on immediately after blood rule is indicated by umpire, and not allowing excess time for injured player to exit the field (but still allowing sufficient time to assist injury management).
o Heavier sanctions for clubs not complying with quarter start times.
o Stricter enforcement of 30 sec limit on set shots for goal.

Also see:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2f6aq.html

Maybe the stricter enforcement is you must kick by 30 seconds so Saad would have to start his run up by 20 seconds.

[perfectionist]

...Maybe the stricter enforcement is you must kick by 30 seconds so Saad would have to start his run up by 20 seconds.

That's correct. His walk/run up takes about 18-19 seconds (on the ones that he had last night or are on YouTube anyway), so he must start it ten seconds after he has marked or been paid a free. That's why he now runs back.

[bergholt]

I don't think he missed any completely

He did miss one from the goal square on the 8th of Sep 1991. Burned into my brain.

[plugger66]

I don't think he missed any completely

He did miss one from the goal square on the 8th of Sep 1991. Burned into my brain.

That was after he nearly knocked himself out when he probably took his highest mark.

[perfectionist]

I don't think he missed any completely

He did miss one from the goal square on the 8th of Sep 1991. Burned into my brain.

Nine goals, five behinds and two complete misses. He could have kicked 14 (bloke at the other end kicked 8.1) But it was not his fault we lost that game. It was Ablett's fault.

[Junction Oval]

Tha Age article was interesting, as it indicates that AFL Umpires were working with the Saints and Saad to help him comply with stricter enforcement of the 30 Sec. rule. It looks as though his "jog back" does provide enough time for him to complete his normal kicking routine.

So it's 30 secs to take his kick.

[plugger66]

Tha Age article was interesting, as it indicates that AFL Umpires were working with the Saints and Saad to help him comply with stricter enforcement of the 30 Sec. rule. It looks as though his "jog back" does provide enough time for him to complete his normal kicking routine.

So it's 30 secs to take his kick.

Where as last year it was 30 seconds to start your run up. he would have to start his within 2 seconds of the decision.

[bigcarl]

Tony Lockett (70% eff)

Closer to 75%, I think, when kicking for goal.

Kicked 1360 goals and 590 behinds - 69.74% (the records don't show how many complete misses, for any player, nor the number of behinds kicked pre 1974).

I stand corrected. Best kick for goal I've seen, particularly when it counted

[remboy]

Every player needs to find a routine that works for them. He's foudn one that works for him. Nothing else matters. If it makes him one of most accurate goal kickers just keep on doing what you're doing.

[Life Long Saint]

I still maintain that there are many other rules that need amending before this one.
The simpler way to reduce dead time is to blow time on when the player is taking his shot. Problem solved!

[avid]

Last year I regularly counted him doing 21 walking paces before the brief pre-kick jog.
This year I've counted him doing 27!
He's getting back to his start faster, but taking even longer to walk in.

I looove to count.

[Newman]

No problems. A breath of fresh air. Still cross my fingers when Nick has a shot ... but always feel more confident with Saad. Stick with it Saad.

[plugger66]

I still maintain that there are many other rules that need amending before this one.
The simpler way to reduce dead time is to blow time on when the player is taking his shot. Problem solved!

And make the game at least 10 minutes longer. They whinge enough as it is. Think you will find quarters are shorter in the next couple of years.