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What does everyone see in Newnes?

Post: # 1308477Post battye »

Every thread seems to have someone talking him up. Of the few games I've seen him play he's looked pretty ordinary. About what you'd expect of someone who's played a couple of games.

I fear he's been nominated as the next messiah so let's hope he turns out better than Tommy Walsh!


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Post: # 1308480Post perfectionist »

He's got two arms and two legs. That's where we are at the moment. Actually, he might be good. At least he can kick, which is an improvement on 50% of the current team.


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Post: # 1308486Post Bernard Shakey »

battye wrote:Every thread seems to have someone talking him up. Of the few games I've seen him play he's looked pretty ordinary. About what you'd expect of someone who's played a couple of games.

I fear he's been nominated as the next messiah so let's hope he turns out better than Tommy Walsh!

He's played seven games, which makes him seven games better than Tommy Walsh. If you've ever been to a game he's played in you won't notice him, but then you'll find he had about twenty possessions, and most of those possessions were effective.
Have a look at him next time he plays, you may be surprised!


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
battye wrote:Every thread seems to have someone talking him up. Of the few games I've seen him play he's looked pretty ordinary. About what you'd expect of someone who's played a couple of games.

I fear he's been nominated as the next messiah so let's hope he turns out better than Tommy Walsh!

He's played seven games, which makes him seven games better than Tommy Walsh. If you've ever been to a game he's played in you won't notice him, but then you'll find he had about twenty possessions, and most of those possessions were effective.
Have a look at him next time he plays, you may be surprised!
Yes !
his first couple of games included allot of poor disposals , his games this year he looks more composed and his ball use has been excellent !
much better than seasoned campaigners like gilbo and cj .


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Post: # 1308501Post battye »

Just looked at his stats, he's never got close to 20 touches besides a career high 18 against Richmond... so still not convinced.
Good disposal should be expected for AFL level players. I think we've lost sight of that because we are used to the likes of Jones butchering it!


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His worst game last year was against Richmond where they tried to intimidate him off the ball. Tyrone Vickery who is a ruckman kept siding up to him giving him a spray and pretending he was going to punch in the head- he just stood there and kept at his job. Even though he leaked a couple of goals he kept his composure. All the rest of his games have been solid if not spectacular.

That was until he played last week and spent time getting the ball rather than defending, he kicked goals and gathered plenty of ball early. Everything points to a quick upward trajectory and the coaches obviously believe he's got something as he's played more than a lot of second year players last year.


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gringo wrote:His worst game last year was against Richmond where they tried to intimidate him off the ball. Tyrone Vickery who is a ruckman kept siding up to him giving him a spray and pretending he was going to punch in the head- he just stood there and kept at his job. Even though he leaked a couple of goals he kept his composure. All the rest of his games have been solid if not spectacular.

That was until he played last week and spent time getting the ball rather than defending, he kicked goals and gathered plenty of ball early. Everything points to a quick upward trajectory and the coaches obviously believe he's got something as he's played more than a lot of second year players last year.
true...the club talks him up too...


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Post: # 1308509Post dragit »

He has shown some promise & poise, pretty early on though…

What are you expecting from a sub 10 game player?


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dragit wrote:He has shown some promise & poise, pretty early on though…

What are you expecting from a sub 10 game player?
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as well as some clean disposal.


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Apart from good awareness, composure, clean disposal, the ability to find the ball and a healthy dose of courage, I don't see much to get excited about. Oh, I forgot, there are a couple of people at the club who believe he's already showing plenty of leadership potential. Apart from all that, he's crap.


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White Winmar wrote:Apart from good awareness, composure, clean disposal, the ability to find the ball and a healthy dose of courage, I don't see much to get excited about. Oh, I forgot, there are a couple of people at the club who believe he's already showing plenty of leadership potential. Apart from all that, he's crap.

And multi faceted because he can play as a mid back or forward. Hyped up rubbish based on all that. The fact that he was one of the kids TAC futurestars focused on was just a nepotistic attempt to bump his value up.


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gringo wrote:His worst game last year was against Richmond where they tried to intimidate him off the ball. Tyrone Vickery who is a ruckman kept siding up to him giving him a spray and pretending he was going to punch in the head- he just stood there and kept at his job. Even though he leaked a couple of goals he kept his composure. All the rest of his games have been solid if not spectacular.

That was until he played last week and spent time getting the ball rather than defending, he kicked goals and gathered plenty of ball early. Everything points to a quick upward trajectory and the coaches obviously believe he's got something as he's played more than a lot of second year players last year.
Was that the game he played on Jake King who did nothing?


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Post: # 1308523Post gringo »

SainterK wrote:
gringo wrote:His worst game last year was against Richmond where they tried to intimidate him off the ball. Tyrone Vickery who is a ruckman kept siding up to him giving him a spray and pretending he was going to punch in the head- he just stood there and kept at his job. Even though he leaked a couple of goals he kept his composure. All the rest of his games have been solid if not spectacular.

That was until he played last week and spent time getting the ball rather than defending, he kicked goals and gathered plenty of ball early. Everything points to a quick upward trajectory and the coaches obviously believe he's got something as he's played more than a lot of second year players last year.
Was that the game he played on Jake King who did nothing?

I think so- I was at the game but just re read the earlier posts and it was statistically his best game. I just have this memory of him and Simpkin getting too far from goal and letting Jack R out the back for a cheap goal. Obviously he was better than I imagined that night.


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Yep he shows a lot of attributes to suggest he will have a long AFL career. Hopefully he becomes an A grader cos we need a few to step up.

I reckon his worst game was when he tried and failed to tag Toby Greene. He was taught a lesson that day.


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A bit of ability, a great attitude and plenty of promise.


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Old Mate wrote:Yep he shows a lot of attributes to suggest he will have a long AFL career. Hopefully he becomes an A grader cos we need a few to step up.

I reckon his worst game was when he tried and failed to tag Toby Greene. He was taught a lesson that day.

Toby Greene will do that to plenty in the next 10 years. He is so Ben Cousins like it's bizarre.


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Post: # 1308530Post BigMart »

He'll be a good player


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BigMart wrote:He'll be a good player
+1 here


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gringo wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Yep he shows a lot of attributes to suggest he will have a long AFL career. Hopefully he becomes an A grader cos we need a few to step up.

I reckon his worst game was when he tried and failed to tag Toby Greene. He was taught a lesson that day.

Toby Greene will do that to plenty in the next 10 years. He is so Ben Cousins like it's bizarre.
Fo sho. I got the impression Scotty put Newnes on Greene for the learning experience of how to win the hard ball. If there was a knock on Newnes as a junior it was that he lacked an inside game.


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Post: # 1308538Post bigcarl »

battye wrote:We are used to the likes of Jones butchering it!
Yes, but you've got to be able to get the pill in the first place. I'm not saying Newnes can't ... in fact I think he will be a very good player ... but CJ and guys like Gilbert definitely can.

The perfect footballer would have the ball on a string and never butcher it, but there's not too many of them around.

Generally it's a trade-off unless you're lucky enough to find a Dal Santo-type who goes okay in both areas.


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stinger wrote:
gringo wrote:His worst game last year was against Richmond where they tried to intimidate him off the ball. Tyrone Vickery who is a ruckman kept siding up to him giving him a spray and pretending he was going to punch in the head- he just stood there and kept at his job. Even though he leaked a couple of goals he kept his composure. All the rest of his games have been solid if not spectacular.

That was until he played last week and spent time getting the ball rather than defending, he kicked goals and gathered plenty of ball early. Everything points to a quick upward trajectory and the coaches obviously believe he's got something as he's played more than a lot of second year players last year.
true...the club talks him up too...
I think another thing we like is he wants the ball, enjoys the contest. Silly as it sounds, those things help young blokes rise faster.


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gringo wrote:

Toby Greene will do that to plenty in the next 10 years. He is so Ben Cousins like it's bizarre.
Is that just ON field? Or ON & OFF field? !!


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Back on Topic;

I like what I've seen from Jack Newnes so far. A good idea might be for us to support the guy and hope that he takes the next step in 2013. We need him and a number of other younger players to step up if we are to improve our ladder position !!


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Post: # 1308570Post saintspremiers »

Will be a player.

Like Sippa he has excellent disposal skills.


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A young boy trying to be a young man!


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