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Thoughts on Tommy Walsh by a Sydney Fan

Post: # 1304296Post joffaboy »

over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

And some awesome students of the game on this site built up a straw man argument that Lyon was deliberately not playing him and this was the reason we lost the next Plugger/Loewe/Reiwoldt rolled into one. :roll: :roll:

All Lyons fault hey? Longmire must not be able to develop players either hey?

Lets face it, Walsh is below average and seems as though he has Buckleys of making it in AFL.

Time for the whiners and slanderers of Ross Lyon regarding Tommy Walsh to fess that they know SFA when it comes to development of players and the reasons why some do and some dont get selected.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... sh.991346/


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Post: # 1304297Post saintspremiers »

Yes it's a good laugh.

Wilkesy at pick 68 looks good value now.

But the reality of Hall going to Sydney plus AFL curroption unfairly landed them a flag in 2005.


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Post: # 1304301Post plugger66 »

joffaboy wrote:over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

And some awesome students of the game on this site built up a straw man argument that Lyon was deliberately not playing him and this was the reason we lost the next Plugger/Loewe/Reiwoldt rolled into one. :roll: :roll:

All Lyons fault hey? Longmire must not be able to develop players either hey?

Lets face it, Walsh is below average and seems as though he has Buckleys of making it in AFL.

Time for the whiners and slanderers of Ross Lyon regarding Tommy Walsh to fess that they know SFA when it comes to development of players and the reasons why some do and some dont get selected.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... sh.991346/

I would agree with you but its looks like the new coaches for Nick Heyne and Tom Lynch have had much more success than RL did with them.


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I'm still reeling from the loss of Paul Cahill…


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dragit wrote:I'm still reeling from the loss of Paul Cahill…

Better than Milney one poster actually said. Since then Milne has been AA twice and paul has gone to AA twice.


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plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:I'm still reeling from the loss of Paul Cahill…

Better than Milney one poster actually said. Since then Milne has been AA twice and paul has gone to AA twice.
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Post: # 1304307Post satchmo »

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dragit wrote:I'm still reeling from the loss of Paul Cahill…

Better than Milney one poster actually said. Since then Milne has been AA twice and paul has gone to AA twice.
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Post: # 1304308Post meher baba »

It's a big call, but there must have been more BS posted about Walsh on this forum than any other subject: GT, Ben Cousins, Luke Ball, Lyon after he quit us.

Archie Fraser was a CEO for whom I had very little time at all, but I used to think he had done the club a favour by uncovering Walsh. But even that laurel must now be denied him.

I still remember the sight of Matthew Drain (another guy for whom I had very little time) reassuring the media that it was ok that we'd given away our shirt to take an enormous punt on the unstable Andrew Lovett because Tommy Walsh was "as good as a first round draft pick"!

The club admin now is nothing special, but is a big improvement on those days. Thank goodness we had a top-drawer coach and some great players back then.

The playing list is a bit down now, but the coach looks ok. This season has an ok feel about it. If we can avoid major injuries.


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meher baba wrote:It's a big call, but there must have been more BS posted about Walsh on this forum than any other subject: GT, Ben Cousins, Luke Ball, Lyon after he quit us.

Archie Fraser was a CEO for whom I had very little time at all, but I used to think he had done the club a favour by uncovering Walsh. But even that laurel must now be denied him.

I still remember the sight of Matthew Drain (another guy for whom I had very little time) reassuring the media that it was ok that we'd given away our shirt to take an enormous punt on the unstable Andrew Lovett because Tommy Walsh was "as good as a first round draft pick"!

The club admin now is nothing special, but is a big improvement on those days. Thank goodness we had a top-drawer coach and some great players back then.

The playing list is a bit down now, but the coach looks ok. This season has an ok feel about it. If we can avoid major injuries.

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Post: # 1304328Post samoht »

joffaboy wrote:over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

And some awesome students of the game on this site built up a straw man argument that Lyon was deliberately not playing him and this was the reason we lost the next Plugger/Loewe/Reiwoldt rolled into one. :roll: :roll:

All Lyons fault hey? Longmire must not be able to develop players either hey?

Lets face it, Walsh is below average and seems as though he has Buckleys of making it in AFL.

Time for the whiners and slanderers of Ross Lyon regarding Tommy Walsh to fess that they know SFA when it comes to development of players and the reasons why some do and some dont get selected.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... sh.991346/
No one on this site said TW was the next Plugger - it's just that he may have been given 1 game (that's all) after he was playing some consistently good footy at the VFL level.
Tom Lynch was getting a lot of chances and failing, as he was too slow, etc..so one of those games - just one of those Tom Lynch games maybe ? - could have been given to TW, that's all.
You are the master of hyperbole if you're suggesting otherwise.
Why was RL (your hero) deliberately playing a perpetual failure in Tom Lynch ? .. what a poor judge of talent RL was - not to mention his failed recycled experiment.


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Post: # 1304329Post plugger66 »

samoht wrote:
joffaboy wrote:over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

And some awesome students of the game on this site built up a straw man argument that Lyon was deliberately not playing him and this was the reason we lost the next Plugger/Loewe/Reiwoldt rolled into one. :roll: :roll:

All Lyons fault hey? Longmire must not be able to develop players either hey?

Lets face it, Walsh is below average and seems as though he has Buckleys of making it in AFL.

Time for the whiners and slanderers of Ross Lyon regarding Tommy Walsh to fess that they know SFA when it comes to development of players and the reasons why some do and some dont get selected.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... sh.991346/
No one on this site said TW was the next Plugger - it's just that he may have been given 1 game (that's all) after he was playing some consistently good footy at the VFL level.
Tom Lynch was getting a lot of chances and failing, as he was too slow, etc..so one of those games - just one of those Tom Lynch games maybe ? - could have been given to TW, that's all.
You are the master of hyperbole if you're suggesting otherwise.
Why was RL (your hero) deliberately playing a perpetual failure in Tom Lynch?
Well thats completely unfair. There was many on here who said he didnt get enough chances either. This is where it is impossible for one argument to be better than the other. Some think Lynch got to many chances and some think he didnt get enough. Who is right? And RL was 100% wrong either way.


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Post: # 1304332Post cwrcyn »

Tommy Walsh, because of his height and muscle, has been viewed as a key position prospect, but in gaelic football, he was a roving half forward/wing type. I wonder....... had he'd been given a chance to develop himself in that in of role in the AFL, he might just be a player now. We'll never know, though.











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Post: # 1304335Post SydneySainter »

joffaboy wrote:over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

And some awesome students of the game on this site built up a straw man argument that Lyon was deliberately not playing him and this was the reason we lost the next Plugger/Loewe/Reiwoldt rolled into one. :roll: :roll:

All Lyons fault hey? Longmire must not be able to develop players either hey?

Lets face it, Walsh is below average and seems as though he has Buckleys of making it in AFL.

Time for the whiners and slanderers of Ross Lyon regarding Tommy Walsh to fess that they know SFA when it comes to development of players and the reasons why some do and some dont get selected.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... sh.991346/
He's had a single season at the Swans. Looks unlikely he'll be a gun and the Swans giving their back account no. to Tippett implies that they don't have enormous faith in him being a star prospect, but I wouldn't completely write him off yet.

Even though we look to have gotten the better of the deal now, Watters didn't want him to go either.


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Post: # 1304339Post matrix »

and?

so what joffa?

i was upset when he went
from the couple of games i saw of sandy, he played well up forward and didnt look that bad down back
is it ok to be wrong in your world?

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asked Kevin Sheedy whether he thought Walsh would ever make it.
he reminded me that Stynes had to go back to Prahran after a couple of years at Melbourne before it all clicked for him.
also looking at the highlights from last weeks games I saw that Majak Daw(?), how many years has it taken him to come good?


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Post: # 1304374Post saintsRrising »

joffaboy wrote:over at Bigfooty...

Interesting read. Basically got Newnes, Markworth and Maister for him.

That is for the two Tommy's as Newne's was for Lynch.

Deft trading by us, for regardless of whether or not they work for their new clubs (and they are struggling at present), the two Tommy's were going nowhere for us, whereas we are getting games from their replacements.


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Post: # 1304398Post SaintPav »

Tommy was thanked by John Longmire in his GF acceptance speech. That's about as good as it's going to get for TW.

We did really well out of the deal with Sydney.


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Post: # 1304412Post Scollop »

Question marks remain over TW and TL, but I'm 100% certain that Saints are better off with SW as head coach - the time was right for a forward thinking teacher of our emerging leaders. RL will forever be basking in the glory of winning 19 games in a row at the St.K. Football Club

Also pretty sure after reading jb's posts, that he likes to antagonise and bully other posters and doesn't add much else


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Didn't we get Dal Santo effectively for Hall? I regard that as a win.


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Scollop wrote:Question marks remain over TW and TL, but I'm 100% certain that Saints are better off with SW as head coach - the time was right for a forward thinking teacher of our emerging leaders. RL will forever be basking in the glory of winning 19 games in a row at the St.K. Football Club

Also pretty sure after reading jb's posts, that he likes to antagonise and bully other posters and doesn't add much else

You seem to bask in Watters glory of winning what 12 games? In his entire career? Not consecutive.

I like Watters. I just think your logic is poor.


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How did we get Newens?

Is this including Lynch?


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Post: # 1304509Post desertsaint »

Think we did very well out of the TW trade. But confused by the OP using a few swans supporters opinions as evidence to belittle a few saints supporters opinions. Not sure we got those three for TW either. So a strange post. Rather aggressive and contemptuous in its tone, and not definitive enough in itself to excuse either. Oh hold on, it's a JB post - all normal with the world then, carry on. troll, belittle, rant! :)


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