Midfield

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301361Post plugger66 »

whiskers3614 wrote:Lyon with Len Smith.
Dawson with Silvagni (SOS)?

Have no idea what the first means but you lose credibility with bad examples.


whiskers3614
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4567
Joined: Thu 20 May 2010 11:49pm
Has thanked: 120 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301369Post whiskers3614 »

plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Lyon with Len Smith.
Dawson with Silvagni (SOS)?

Have no idea what the first means but you lose credibility with bad examples.
1) One was a great coach.
2 )One was a great full back.

Or would you prefer I put up a picture of a cat and a dog to illustrate further?


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301374Post plugger66 »

whiskers3614 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Lyon with Len Smith.
Dawson with Silvagni (SOS)?

Have no idea what the first means but you lose credibility with bad examples.
1) One was a great coach.
2 )One was a great full back.

Or would you prefer I put up a picture of a cat and a dog to illustrate further?

But you named the coach with a far superior record first. Confusing.


whiskers3614
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4567
Joined: Thu 20 May 2010 11:49pm
Has thanked: 120 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301376Post whiskers3614 »

yes and Warwick Capper kicked more goals than Coleman!


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301385Post plugger66 »

whiskers3614 wrote:yes and Warwick Capper kicked more goals than Coleman!

You did say Len Smith? Are you sure about him?


Freebird
Club Player
Posts: 919
Joined: Sun 29 Jan 2012 12:37pm
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301388Post Freebird »

Good sniping plug...

Without you this site would have no meaningful threads


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301395Post plugger66 »

Freebird wrote:Good sniping plug...

Without you this site would have no meaningful threads

That you for the compliment. Good to see. I really am popular.


vacuous space
SS Life Member
Posts: 3465
Joined: Fri 29 Oct 2004 1:01pm
Has thanked: 91 times
Been thanked: 162 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301397Post vacuous space »

We don't have the most explosive midfield on the planet, but we're pretty good at the stoppages, particularly the centre ones. We lost the centre clearances last year only six times. Chances are we'll continue to lose the hitouts and at least break even in the clearances. We're no worse than middling in the midfield. The efficiency of our defence at killing and clearing the ball to me is a much bigger concern. Our forward line is plenty good enough if the other lines hold up.


Yeah nah pleasing positive
User avatar
andrewg
Club Player
Posts: 1103
Joined: Sat 03 Sep 2011 6:38pm

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301416Post andrewg »

McEvoy emergency?
Whaaaat....? Rubbish.

Pretty sure Jack Steven will be excellent this year, Dal will be great with Lenny and Montagna and Armo looks to be playing some consistent footy (he looks super fit), now we don't have the burden of playing Goddard in the midfield, Ross or Newnes have the chance to step up. Ross will be excellent. Still think Ledger can play also, he just knows how to win it. Supposed off half back and pushing up to wing as support will be fantastic as well.

It's not all bad



Don't forget free agency at the end of this year. We need to plan for 1year, 5 year and 10 years not just 5 or 10 years. Our midfield will be competitive this year and in 2014 add a young gun from Gold Coast or GWS and we will be great + our recruits from this year and another year into some of the young talent mentioned above...........I still feel like we are on the right track.


BackFromUSA wrote:Some people are just negative here - I am very positive and think we are in a much better position this year in terms of quality and depth on the list for team balance.

My starting team would be:

Backs against teams with no super tall forwards:

Newnes Simpkin Dempster
Gwilt Fisher Siposs

Backs against teams with a super tall forward:

Newnes Stanley Simpkin
Gwilt Fisher Dempster

Ruck: Hickey (the new rules just suit him better)

Midfield 8:

Inside 3 rotating through 2 onfield roles - Hayes, Armitage, Geary

Inside / Outside rotating role: Montagna and Steven

Outside running and link up role - dal Santo, Ray, Gilbert

These 8 fill the 5 midfield spots and 3 interchange places.

Forward line:

Two key forwards: Riewoldt and Maister

Three small forwards: Milne, Saad, Schneider

3rd tall: Stanley or Siposs (depending on defensive set up)

Substitute: Millera

Emergencies from:
- McEvoy
- Jones
- Dennis-Lane
- Ross
- Lee
- Roberton
- Koschitzke
- Blake
- Dunnell


User avatar
Beekay
SS Life Member
Posts: 3336
Joined: Mon 22 Nov 2004 1:35pm

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301427Post Beekay »

I like BFUSA's team.

I'd replace Gilbert with Milera. I like the idea of a Carlton like fleet forward, with a hardened engine room and a tight defence.

It won't happen. I expect Jones, McEvoy to be selected round 1.

I'm a massive fan of building a team of clever, balanced players, that have the support of a rugged, tough midfield. No time for turnovers, especially when you're not under pressure (Gilbert).

Nippy forwards require persistence, should go for it with two fit tall forwards in Roo and Beau to help out.

Would love to head down to the Dome on a weekend and watch Milney, Schnids, Saad & Milera running riot. Throw in Sippos & Riewoldt... :lol:

PS. I hope Sam Gilbert proves me wrong. He's still young, and was once an awesome player.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301456Post SainterK »

I just hope when Fisher, Gwilt and Dempster are complimenting him out there...he'll do the hard defensive work and then dish it off.


bigcarl
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18655
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
Has thanked: 1994 times
Been thanked: 873 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301962Post bigcarl »

Well no Lenny or Dal - our best two mids - this weekend.

It will be a good chance to see how the next tier of mids hold up and possibly who else can go into the rotation.

I'll revisit this thread after the game.


User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301966Post dragit »

bigcarl wrote:Well no Lenny or Dal - our best two mids - this weekend.

It will be a good chance to see how the next tier of mids hold up and possibly who else can go into the rotation.

I'll revisit this thread after the game.
No O'Keefe or McVeigh for the swans, probably cancels out Dal & Lenny, but it will be interesting to see how we go as the swans midfield bats very deep.


saintly
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5413
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 10:29am
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 47 times

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1301988Post saintly »

dragit wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Well no Lenny or Dal - our best two mids - this weekend.

It will be a good chance to see how the next tier of mids hold up and possibly who else can go into the rotation.

I'll revisit this thread after the game.
No O'Keefe or McVeigh for the swans, probably cancels out Dal & Lenny, but it will be interesting to see how we go as the swans midfield bats very deep.

ah, but there is Tommy Walsh


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1302011Post SainterK »

saintly wrote:
dragit wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Well no Lenny or Dal - our best two mids - this weekend.

It will be a good chance to see how the next tier of mids hold up and possibly who else can go into the rotation.

I'll revisit this thread after the game.
No O'Keefe or McVeigh for the swans, probably cancels out Dal & Lenny, but it will be interesting to see how we go as the swans midfield bats very deep.

ah, but there is Tommy Walsh
No there isn't, he's been withdrawn...


User avatar
borderbarry
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6676
Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 11:22pm
Location: Wodonga

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1302035Post borderbarry »

I have to agree with Plugger66 on querying the selection of Len Smith as a great coach. That honour should surely be with his brother Norm, who coached Melbourne to all those premierships in the 50's and 60's.


User avatar
White Winmar
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5014
Joined: Tue 02 Jun 2009 10:02pm

Re: Midfield

Post: # 1302048Post White Winmar »

desertsaint wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:I would argue Goddard's best was probably better than Harvey's.
wow!
this is akin to comparing Oasis with the Beatles, McMahon with Menzies, Witherspoon with Hepburn, Flannery with Darwin, Hewitt with Laver, MacKillop with Jesus, Hooch with Lassie...
wow!
That's a bit tough on Hooch. Underrated in my opinion.


I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
Post Reply