We Will Win More Than 9

[damienc]

I couldn't help but notice that the football sages at the Herald Sun, colloquially known as the Current Bun, think the Saints will win only 9 games this season. Apparently they base this revelation on our aging list and the fact that our newbies will take more than one season to get up to speed.

I say BS to that. We have recruited Tom Lee who would have to be ready to go, TDL who is absolutely ready to go, Dylan Roberton ready to go plus I hear whispers that Brodie Murdoch is not far off being ready to go. These guys would have to make an impact immediately.

2012 wasn't great but neither was it a complete disaster. There were a number of games we lost by a handful of points that we should have/could have won. Sure our list is getting old but old is not over the hill. Lenny played last season with a major heart defect and he was still a champion.

I only see positive steps forward in 2013 not going backwards. We will make the 8 and who knows what might happen if we do. So I give a very strong one fingered salute to our friends at News Limited. Go Sainters.

[White Winmar]

Yes. 13.

[bigcarl]

I only see positive steps forward in 2013 not going backwards. We will make the 8 and who knows what might happen if we do.

Well said. Go Saints

[saint6709]

I only see positive steps forward in 2013 not going backwards. We will make the 8 and who knows what might happen if we do.

Well said. Go Saints

Agreed and Hickey is ready to go as well

[mr six o'clock]

I don't get the aging list talk !
Surely if we got rid of milne , hayes , kosi , roo and blakey we'd probably be one of the youngest lists !

[dragit]

I don't get the aging list talk !
Surely if we got rid of milne , hayes , kosi , roo and blakey we'd probably be one of the youngest lists !

and the shittest…

I reckon 9 wins will be about right for this year…

Lee, TDL, Hickey - all unproven, Roberton GOP at this stage.

If they all come on and become stars in their first year with us then sure we'll make the 8, but I think this is highly doubtful.

[bigcarl]

I don't get the aging list talk !
Surely if we got rid of milne , hayes , kosi , roo and blakey we'd probably be one of the youngest lists !

We have the oldest list ... followed by Sydney (who won it last year), then Collingwood and Hawthorn (who could easily have won it).

There's a lot to be said for experienced and mature bodies.

[loris]

I don't get the aging list talk !
Surely if we got rid of milne , hayes , kosi , roo and blakey we'd probably be one of the youngest lists !

We have the oldest list ... followed by Sydney (who won it last year), then Collingwood and Hawthorn (who could easily have won it).

There's a lot to be said for experienced and mature bodies.

And last season most sides would have welcomed Milney, Lenny & Roo into their starting 22. Ageing they may be, but still damaging players......... injury aside I would expect those 3 to still hold their own during 2013

[magnifisaint]

Who the hell knows what's going to happen. For all those Nostradamas's why don't you go and buy a lotto ticket and enjoy your winnings.
9 wins is about right my arse. Tell us that at the years end

[bergholt]

Dean Polo, Adam Pattison, Charlie Gardiner, Sean Charles and Michael Frost were all "ready to go" when they were picked up. That doesn't mean we got anything useful out of them.

[magnifisaint]

Dean Polo, Adam Pattison, Charlie Gardiner, Sean Charles and Michael Frost were all "ready to go" when they were picked up. That doesn't mean we got anything useful out of them.

Yes but they were crap

[chook23]

history says we will continue to slide....

we were up for a long time....2004-2010

started sliding 2011 continued 2012

9 games about right 2013

[saintspremiers]

I don't get the aging list talk !
Surely if we got rid of milne , hayes , kosi , roo and blakey we'd probably be one of the youngest lists !

and the shittest…

I reckon 9 wins will be about right for this year…

Lee, TDL, Hickey - all unproven, Roberton GOP at this stage.

If they all come on and become stars in their first year with us then sure we'll make the 8, but I think this is highly doubtful.

Possibly right.

And 9 games now is like winning 6 or 7 pre GC and GWS!

[plugger66]

I would have thought between 9 and 11 wins. Certainly have no problem with the media thinking that. It certainly isnt a conspiracy against us. And I think the point of an aging list is the old guys are still clearly our best players and players of their age do not improve.

[magnifisaint]

I would have thought between 9 and 11 wins. Certainly have no problem with the media thinking that. It certainly isnt a conspiracy against us. And I think the point of an aging list is the old guys are still clearly our best players and players of their age do not improve.

They don't but the young ones do

[bergholt]

Dean Polo, Adam Pattison, Charlie Gardiner, Sean Charles and Michael Frost were all "ready to go" when they were picked up. That doesn't mean we got anything useful out of them.

Yes but they were crap

Who's to say that Lee, TDL, Roberton and Murdoch aren't crap? They're not exactly Goddard or Judd.

[howlinwolf]

I would have thought between 9 and 11 wins. Certainly have no problem with the media thinking that. It certainly isnt a conspiracy against us. And I think the point of an aging list is the old guys are still clearly our best players and players of their age do not improve.

I'd agree with plugger here. 9-11 wins is what i would have thought.
Also agree the fact our oldest players are still the best is the key issue. Not only will they not improve anymore but the gulf between them and the next tier is too much to expect results like top 4 etc.
Having said that , I'm happy in the direction we are taking and very happy with Scott Watters.

[Eastern]

It's all wild guessing at this time of year. I still think that we are the most difficult club to get a handle on for 2013. My guess is that we will finish 6-10, depending on which way the close games go !!

[GrumpyOne]

Nine wins and finishing outside the Eight sounds pretty spot on to me.

[bigcarl]

I just reckon the core group will want one last crack at it and they will take inspiration from Sydney's premiership with its ageing list.

How we start the season is going to have a big influence on how we finish it. Got to get on a roll early.

And the young guys carry no scars from 2009-2010.

[tweedaletomanning]

It's all wild guessing at this time of year. I still think that we are the most difficult club to get a handle on for 2013. My guess is that we will finish 6-10, depending on which way the close games go !!

Agree, luck with injuries will obviously play a big part in determining our final position.

Hopefully we have "one last crack"

[clarky449]

8-11 wins. Dont think we will make the 8. Getting older, young players arent standouts, new arrivals arent known to be future/current stars. Fact is, we are going down. Said the same two years ago, nothing has made me change my mind. Look forward to the future.

[felix]

[quote="clarky449"]8-11 wins. Dont think we will make the 8. Getting older, young players arent standouts, new arrivals arent known to be future/current stars. Fact is, we are going down. Said the same two years ago, nothing has made me change my mind. Look forward to the future

How depressing

[MCG-Unit]

I think they could win 10-13 games - and finish anywhere between 7-10th

Reckon there will be a log jam for finals spots this year

[saintsRrising]

R1: Gold Coast (Metricon) 1
R3: GWS (Manuka) 2
R4: Essendon (Etihad)
R5: Sydney (Westpac)
R6: Collingwood (Etihad)
R7: Carlton (Etihad)
R8: Adelaide (AAMI)
R9: Western Bulldogs (Etihad) 3
R10: North Melbourne (Etihad)
R11: West Coast (Etihad)
R12: Bye
R13: Melbourne (MCG) 4
R14: Richmond (MCG)
R15: Fremantle (Patersons)
R16: Carlton (Etihad)
R17: Port Adelaide (Etihad) 5
R18: Geelong (Simonds)
R19: Brisbane (Gabba)
R20: Hawthorn (Etihad)
R21: Sydney (SCG)
R22: Gold Coast (Etihad) 6
R23: Fremantle (Etihad)

So that is 6 games that we should win. The rest are up for grabs as I am expecting one of the most competitive years ever. Even Gold coast will be harder to beat this year.