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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1291835Post Con Gorozidis »

Rather than try his luck on 18yo long shots - Lyon preferred to take out the middle man and save time by recruiting 25yo non shots. Take the uncertainty out of recruiting - recruit guys you know wont make it!'

Lets face it - developing players is hard work and takes time. Who needs that? Not RL.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1291840Post whiskers3614 »

In due course the Lyon years will be seen for the disaster they were.
Lovett/Ball debacle was only the cherry on the cake.
Unwatchable game style and "the bubble" more of his great achievements.
DOG of a bloke.
Good riddance!


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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whiskers3614 wrote:In due course the Lyon years will be seen for the disaster they were.
Lovett/Ball debacle was only the cherry on the cake.
Unwatchable game style and "the bubble" more of his great achievements.
DOG of a bloke.
Good riddance!

They may be seen as the last crack at a GF for years. I cant stand the fact RL decided to take that approach because the way we have previously approached it obviously worked. Why wouldnt he have tried that way? Pathetic coaching. 2 GF's and no wins. Our club has always been much more successful than that.

The funny thing is people without bias and who understand footy have rated RL in the top 3 coaches for about the last 5 years. What would they know though.


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plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:In due course the Lyon years will be seen for the disaster they were.
Lovett/Ball debacle was only the cherry on the cake.
Unwatchable game style and "the bubble" more of his great achievements.
DOG of a bloke.
Good riddance!

They may be seen as the last crack at a GF for years. I cant stand the fact RL decided to take that approach because the way we have previously approached it obviously worked. Why wouldnt he have tried that way? Pathetic coaching. 2 GF's and no wins. Our club has always been much more successful than that.

The funny thing is people without bias and who understand footy have rated RL in the top 3 coaches for about the last 5 years. What would they know though.

Exactly correct. What a sham and a farce to say the Lyon years were a disaster :roll:

What gross revisionist stupidity.

Yes two GF's in a row - what an unmittigated disaster. Why was lyon trying to win in 2009 and 2010 when he should have known that recruiting for 2014 and 2015 was the priority?

OK enough of the sarcasm, the recruiting in our GF years was poor, and we could have done much better (see Geelong for example). It may well be that Lyon is a parasite of a coach and cherry picks teams he thinks can win a flag, but to call his years as the Saints coach a disaster is mindbogglingly stupid and ignorant.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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joffaboy wrote:parasite of a coach and cherry picks teams he thinks can win a flag, but to call his years as the Saints coach a disaster is mindbogglingly stupid and ignorant.
True dat.


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Thought this was about Jackson?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1291885Post borderbarry »

Come on K, you dont expect these blokes to stick with a thread do you?

Anyway, has he really grown to 196?

I can easily see him holding down CHB for us.


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borderbarry wrote:Come on K, you dont expect these blokes to stick with a thread do you?

Anyway, has he really grown to 196?

I can easily see him holding down CHB for us.
True.

That's the trick really, holding onto him while Fisher continues to hold down CHB.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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Well I can see JF holding down CHB, and releasing Fisher for FB.


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whiskers3614 wrote:In due course the Lyon years will be seen for the disaster they were.
Lovett/Ball debacle was only the cherry on the cake.
Unwatchable game style and "the bubble" more of his great achievements.
DOG of a bloke.
Good riddance!
Understandable comments in the circumstances.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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Jackson Ferguson is looking pretty well huge
Anyone else get the impression he is bigger than last year.....pretty big unit I recon ... hopefully improves again this pre-season!

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I reckon he looks the same weight and height as last year.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1293301Post SuperDuper »

well he is big bodied enough to play AFL.. just a matter of being experienced/good enough


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Reckon he is a little bigger through middle
From games I saw definitely took step forward last season, and revealed a cool head and composed kicking, real nice kick of the ball
Big year for him


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SuperDuper wrote:Jackson Ferguson is looking pretty well huge
Anyone else get the impression he is bigger than last year.....
Measuring that photo on my screen he's only about five inches tall. I don't understand how you can otherwise tell his size given that there's no-one else in shot for comparison.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1293318Post avid »

plugger66 wrote:I reckon he looks the same weight and height as last year.
That's almost certainly what the club website stats will say. Why won't they ever update them properly?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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I reckon he's grown.


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Post: # 1293336Post plugger66 »

SainterK wrote:I reckon he's grown.

Well he has but not for 2 years.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

Post: # 1293342Post SaintPav »

plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:I reckon he's grown.

Well he has but not for 2 years.
How far do you think he's away from getting a game? 18 months?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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SaintPav wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:I reckon he's grown.

Well he has but not for 2 years.
How far do you think he's away from getting a game? 18 months?

I hope not. I would think he could get a few games this year if we have a LTI or two.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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The club has him listed as 194cm and 89 kg. I don't know when that was last updated. I have to agree with Bergholt. If there is no one to compare him to, then it's impossible to tell. Anyone care to make an assessment based on seeing him at training?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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White Winmar wrote:The club has him listed as 194cm and 89 kg. I don't know when that was last updated. I have to agree with Bergholt. If there is no one to compare him to, then it's impossible to tell. Anyone care to make an assessment based on seeing him at training?

I reckon he would be 195cm and 91k. I know he got to 94k early last year but decided to lose weight because he lost a bit of run.


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:I reckon he's grown.

Well he has but not for 2 years.
How do you know?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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plugger66 wrote:
White Winmar wrote:The club has him listed as 194cm and 89 kg. I don't know when that was last updated. I have to agree with Bergholt. If there is no one to compare him to, then it's impossible to tell. Anyone care to make an assessment based on seeing him at training?

I reckon he would be 195cm and 91k. I know he got to 94k early last year but decided to lose weight because he lost a bit of run.
If that's accurate, then he's the perfect size for what we need. The question now is, is he good enough? With Markworth gone for the year, the opportunity for upgrading is there. P66, I know you thought he was a bit of a way off being senior AFL standard last year. Has anything you've seen since changed your mind?


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Re: Jackson Ferguson

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White Winmar wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
White Winmar wrote:The club has him listed as 194cm and 89 kg. I don't know when that was last updated. I have to agree with Bergholt. If there is no one to compare him to, then it's impossible to tell. Anyone care to make an assessment based on seeing him at training?

I reckon he would be 195cm and 91k. I know he got to 94k early last year but decided to lose weight because he lost a bit of run.
If that's accurate, then he's the perfect size for what we need. The question now is, is he good enough? With Markworth gone for the year, the opportunity for upgrading is there. P66, I know you thought he was a bit of a way off being senior AFL standard last year. Has anything you've seen since changed your mind?

I am actually a huge rap for Ferg. I just think he was still a bit off because of the position he would play and whether his body as ready. I certainly know nothing to change my mind except he is a year older and a year stronger. I certainly think he is ready for a few games this year if he is able to being a rookie.


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