Sam Fisher off field issues?

[Buckets]

But the OP for the bigfooty thread just asked if anyone knew specifics lol

If he has done wrong he will cop the consequences and I'm happy with that but the article tells us nothing!

[8856brother]

But the OP for the bigfooty thread just asked if anyone knew specifics lol

If he has done wrong he will cop the consequences and I'm happy with that but the article tells us nothing!

Thread is called "St Kilda's Heart of Darkness" ffs. It's an open invitation for people to bag us. First word in the thread by the way is "culture".

[Buckets]

But the OP for the bigfooty thread just asked if anyone knew specifics lol

If he has done wrong he will cop the consequences and I'm happy with that but the article tells us nothing!

Thread is called "St Kilda's Heart of Darkness" ffs. It's an open invitation for people to bag us. First word in the thread by the way is "culture".

Yes because the team Lance follows has not had any issues over the past 5 years....Hurley V Taxi driver....Lovett and his missus....

Thrillo actually made the best point. Unless someone knows enough to enlighten us with this 'bad' behaviour the STFU.

[plugger66]

But the OP for the bigfooty thread just asked if anyone knew specifics lol

If he has done wrong he will cop the consequences and I'm happy with that but the article tells us nothing!

Thread is called "St Kilda's Heart of Darkness" ffs. It's an open invitation for people to bag us. First word in the thread by the way is "culture".

I dont go to BF but there are probably threads bagging every club. We notice ours more because we are only interested in our club.

[8856brother]

But the OP for the bigfooty thread just asked if anyone knew specifics lol

If he has done wrong he will cop the consequences and I'm happy with that but the article tells us nothing!

Thread is called "St Kilda's Heart of Darkness" ffs. It's an open invitation for people to bag us. First word in the thread by the way is "culture".

I dont go to BF but there are probably threads bagging every club. We notice ours more because we are only interested in our club.

Or there is just more of them about us.

[St Lenny]

Usually where there is smoke, there is fire. Cant comment whether its true or not as she doesnt say what the problem is. Hopefully is minor and St Kilda can get it sorted quickly. But it must be difficult for Sam losing both his good mates. Grammy was never the same after that Lovett incident happened at his place and Sam was part of that.

[plugger66]

Usually where there is smoke, there is fire. Cant comment whether its true or not as she doesnt say what the problem is. Hopefully is minor and St Kilda can get it sorted quickly. But it must be difficult for Sam losing both his good mates. Grammy was never the same after that Lovett incident happened at his place and Sam was part of that.

Who is his second mate? I understand Grammy but I have no idea of the other. Pretty sure that would have nothing to do with this though.

[Richter]

Usually where there is smoke, there is fire. Cant comment whether its true or not as she doesnt say what the problem is. Hopefully is minor and St Kilda can get it sorted quickly. But it must be difficult for Sam losing both his good mates. Grammy was never the same after that Lovett incident happened at his place and Sam was part of that.

Who is his second mate? I understand Grammy but I have no idea of the other. Pretty sure that would have nothing to do with this though.

Goddard, golfing buddy, presumably?

[plugger66]

Usually where there is smoke, there is fire. Cant comment whether its true or not as she doesnt say what the problem is. Hopefully is minor and St Kilda can get it sorted quickly. But it must be difficult for Sam losing both his good mates. Grammy was never the same after that Lovett incident happened at his place and Sam was part of that.

Who is his second mate? I understand Grammy but I have no idea of the other. Pretty sure that would have nothing to do with this though.

Goddard, golfing buddy, presumably?

Not sure they were really great mates. Anyway I would think both of them going has little to do with what may have happened. He still lives with Grammy anyway so he is still mates.

[maverick]

I reckon people underestimate reporters. She would have 100 times more knowledge than any of us on here. I will back the story to be 100% true. Lets face it if it was about another club we wouldnt be questioning the reporter. We would be questioning the player.

I know she will have stuff, she has to report it or she shouldn't write anything.
Reporting what she has is weak.

Evgen if it is completely true?

Print what he's done or there is no story.
What she has written so far is drivel.

[dragit]

"Yet Fisher's place in the leadership group is under threat and should be if half the stories about his behaviour are true."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z2D6XZnlFW

So basically reporting rumour.

Can someone please elaborate on what these stories are?

[Rosco]

He plays for st kilda. That's offensive enough for most.

[Austinnn]

At her best, Wilson is a top investigative journalist, but at her worst she is a muckraker and a gossip. Her "AFL needs to help men in trouble" article is astounding. She complains that none of the clubs are taking a chance on footy players with questionable off-field issues, but she is - more than almost anyone - directly responsible for those players being seen as too risky by clubs. I understand that she's a bit worried all her "troubled footballer" stories will dry up, but to blame the clubs for covering their arses is like a fox saying that the farmyard fence is destroying the lives of chickens.

I agree that if we just go with safe players, we'll lose a bit of our soul, but clubs face more scrutiny than ever, and players can't even go out any more without incriminating stories being written in the paper, so maybe we should wind it back a bit and lower our expectations of these guys off-field.

[White Winmar]

I have been subjected to the unfortunate situation in which I share mutual friends with Wilson. At the risk of attacking the woman, rather than what she writes, may I just say she is one of the most thoroughly unpleasant people I've ever met. She is contrary, rude, aloof and comes across as embittered. As for her writing, let's just say she reports gossip, rather than making any insightful observations. If she wasn't Ian wilson's little girl, I doubt we'd ever heard of her.

Just one last bit of advice for her. If you're going to set yourself up as a paragon of virtue, don't race into your office and boast about just having "bagged" Seve Ballesteros. That's no rumour, caro, that's a fact and one your colleagues have been dining out on behind your back for years. My "thourthes" on this are impeccable, unlike yours.

[paddy]

At her best, Wilson is a top investigative journalist, but at her worst she is a muckraker and a gossip. Her "AFL needs to help men in trouble" article is astounding. She complains that none of the clubs are taking a chance on footy players with questionable off-field issues, but she is - more than almost anyone - directly responsible for those players being seen as too risky by clubs. I understand that she's a bit worried all her "troubled footballer" stories will dry up, but to blame the clubs for covering their arses is like a fox saying that the farmyard fence is destroying the lives of chickens.

I agree that if we just go with safe players, we'll lose a bit of our soul, but clubs face more scrutiny than ever, and players can't even go out any more without incriminating stories being written in the paper, so maybe we should wind it back a bit and lower our expectations of these guys off-field.

Well said!

[Spinner]

What the hell is a Seve Ballersteros?

[saintspremiers]

What the hell is a Seve Ballersteros?

Possibly the most famous golfer in Spanish history!

[Con Gorozidis]

If if it were up to me the leadership group would be :

roo
nds
dempster
len-dog
armo
simpkin

[Megsie]

Caroline wilson says "if these rumours are true" You mean you dont know
for sure? BTW caro if they are true (whatever they may be) how come the
biggest rag with all the negative stories on the saints has no interest in
writing such crap about sammy. Oh yes & the club has denied all of her rumours
stick to finding crap about your perfect little angels at tigerland.

[bergholt]

I agree that if we just go with safe players, we'll lose a bit of our soul, but clubs face more scrutiny than ever, and players can't even go out any more without incriminating stories being written in the paper, so maybe we should wind it back a bit and lower our expectations of these guys off-field.

Agreed. Without any information on this story, I have no doubt that there's evidence behind it because I was 30 once and was still regularly getting pretty messy on Saturday nights in a variety of different ways. I don't see why footballers should be any different. If it doesn't affect their performance then who gives a fat rat's clacker if they have a few lines on the weekend?

[SaintPav]

I have been subjected to the unfortunate situation in which I share mutual friends with Wilson. At the risk of attacking the woman, rather than what she writes, may I just say she is one of the most thoroughly unpleasant people I've ever met. She is contrary, rude, aloof and comes across as embittered. As for her writing, let's just say she reports gossip, rather than making any insightful observations. If she wasn't Ian wilson's little girl, I doubt we'd ever heard of her.

Just one last bit of advice for her. If you're going to set yourself up as a paragon of virtue, don't race into your office and boast about just having "bagged" Seve Ballesteros. That's no rumour, caro, that's a fact and one your colleagues have been dining out on behind your back for years. My "thourthes" on this are impeccable, unlike yours.

That is hilarious.

[Sainternist]

I reckon people underestimate reporters. She would have 100 times more knowledge than any of us on here. I will back the story to be 100% true. Lets face it if it was about another club we wouldnt be questioning the reporter. We would be questioning the player.

Nice one. Some Grade A comedy there, Pluggs.

[plugger66]

I reckon people underestimate reporters. She would have 100 times more knowledge than any of us on here. I will back the story to be 100% true. Lets face it if it was about another club we wouldnt be questioning the reporter. We would be questioning the player.

Nice one. Some Grade A comedy there, Pluggs.

Ive never found the truth to be that funny. Each to our own on humour though. You probably didnt like Flying High.

[Sainternist]

Ive never found the truth to be that funny. Each to our own on humour though. You probably didnt like Flying High.

Flying High (aka Airplane) was champagne comedy. Would have been better if Caro had of written the screenplay.

[Dave McNamara]

Nice one. Some Grade A comedy there, Pluggs.

Ive never found the truth to be that funny. Each to our own on humour though. You probably didnt like Flying High.

Harsh there Pluggs.

Sainternist is a very knowledgeble poster, but that may(?) not extend to speaking/understanding jive, which of course is a requirement to fully appreciate Flying High... well either jive, or Doc Spaceman's red pills, or being Ben Cousins...

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First Jive Dude: COL' got to be! Y'know? Shiiiiit.