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Re: Phantom: Clurey, Garlett, Rodda, Lowrie, Dunell, Roberto

Post: # 1283757Post Jiminy Wagga »

gringo wrote:
gringo wrote:
St Ick wrote:Can anyone confirm who the 26 year old tassie KPP is who I am thinking of/wanting us to get?
youre referring to this bloke:

HE is 196cm, weighs 102kg, has run 100m under 11 seconds and has already been drafted once - now North Hobart's Jesse Wells is having a second crack.

http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... 8_afl.html



The guy is a beast!! l love his forward pressure at the 2 min mark of the vid. bloody impressive for a big fella


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Post: # 1283761Post kimberly saint »

plugger66 wrote:I have no idea about the future of these players but if we got exactly those guys I doubt any of them would improve our list next year. We need Lee and Hickey to have pretty good years and our second to fourth year players to improve out of site for us to actually improve next year IMO.

True lee and hickey are the two that you would think could cause a instant impact with there experience , but just maybe we might get 10% improvement with most guys getting more familiar with game plan ?


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Post: # 1283762Post Uncle Barrels »

gringo wrote:There is a gun big guy from WA but a forward and I have noticed he has drifted in a few and maybe around at our picks and that Marco Papparone. He looked great and was talked about highly so not sure what happened. We might be best to get a tall forward and play them as a FB -there seem to be a better crop this year.
Everyone seems to have him pegged as an appalling kick... No thanks if true.


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Jiminy Wagga wrote:
St Ick wrote:Can anyone confirm who the 26 year old tassie KPP is who I am thinking of/wanting us to get?
youre referring to this bloke:

HE is 196cm, weighs 102kg, has run 100m under 11 seconds and has already been drafted once - now North Hobart's Jesse Wells is having a second crack.

http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... 8_afl.html



The guy is a beast!! l love his forward pressure at the 2 min mark of the vid. bloody impressive for a big fella
Yeah, he's the one I'm thinking of/wanting to draft. Second chance and as ready as they come, perfect for pick 77 IMO.


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Post: # 1283765Post Uncle Barrels »

St Ick wrote:
Jiminy Wagga wrote:
St Ick wrote:Can anyone confirm who the 26 year old tassie KPP is who I am thinking of/wanting us to get?
youre referring to this bloke:

HE is 196cm, weighs 102kg, has run 100m under 11 seconds and has already been drafted once - now North Hobart's Jesse Wells is having a second crack.

http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... 8_afl.html



The guy is a beast!! l love his forward pressure at the 2 min mark of the vid. bloody impressive for a big fella
Yeah, he's the one I'm thinking of/wanting to draft. Second chance and as ready as they come, perfect for pick 77 IMO.
Both he and Hardy look worth a serious look. People seem set on Hartigan, but I can't get over Lee giving him a pantsing in the Foxtel Cup, and Lee's hardly a beast...

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Post: # 1283783Post plugger66 »

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plugger66 wrote: I have no idea how he plays but my best mate follows the Swans and says he is ordinary. Dont care that he was emergency in a GF either. I have heard on here that Eddy and Mini were very ordinary AFL footballers and they were a bounce away from winning a GF. If he reaches Milara or Saads standard this year then he still is an ordinary footballer. I am hoping those 2 show natural improvement next season. Maybe TDL will too.
That is a bit harsh. While you want to see more progress, I wouldn't exactly call Saad's performance this year ordinary by any stretch.

If Saad played like that in his 7th year we wouldnt be to excited.


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Post: # 1283785Post dragit »

plugger66 wrote:
SaintPav wrote:
plugger66 wrote: I have no idea how he plays but my best mate follows the Swans and says he is ordinary. Dont care that he was emergency in a GF either. I have heard on here that Eddy and Mini were very ordinary AFL footballers and they were a bounce away from winning a GF. If he reaches Milara or Saads standard this year then he still is an ordinary footballer. I am hoping those 2 show natural improvement next season. Maybe TDL will too.
That is a bit harsh. While you want to see more progress, I wouldn't exactly call Saad's performance this year ordinary by any stretch.

If Saad played like that in his 7th year we wouldnt be to excited.
He's averaging a couple of goals a game, like that other bloke who is back to back AA…


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id be happy with Smith, Garlett as our 2 picks
if garlett's attitude is better he will be amazing


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Yeah I think the Saints are foxing suggesting they are only going to take 18 y/o's and not use pick 77. They would be mad not go with a state league tall defender this year!


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Re: Phantom: Clurey, Garlett, Rodda, Lowrie, Dunell, Roberto

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vacuous space wrote:
Uncle Barrels wrote:is [Clurey] a touch too short at the level?
The premiership FB is about 193, the premiership CHB is about 193, the runner up FB is about 193, the runner up CHB is well under 193. All three of the FBs selected to the AA team are 193 or shorter. So I'd say 193 is plenty big enough for anything we'd actually want them to do.

Any KPD we draft is likely a year or two away at least. We're more likely to see Mitch Brown or James Frawley at FB in 2014 than any KPD we take at the draft. So we go to the draft and pick players who can play long term regardless of size or position. You never know where these guys are going to end up playing. There are plenty of forwards taken as defenders and vice versa.
Meanwhile Andrew Demetriou laments the lack of big marks inside 50.
He is determined to change the interpretation of the rules to remedy this
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Penalising blocking from the contest and blocking to prevent run and leap are to be rigourously enforced.
Blokes like Sam Fisher prevent taller opponents from marking by engaging bustling before the ball arrives.
Some call it competing for position but we all know it is a tactic to prevent the ball being marked by either forward or defender.
We can only expect that bustling short defenders will more and more be penalised.

This means defenders will have to compete with tall forwards with height.
If your defenders don't have the height to punch the ball away they could be Demetrioued out of the game just like ruckman who can't jump.

St Kilda knows that Mc Evoy, who can't jump, has a limited shelf life, if he hasn't already passed his use by date.
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Post: # 1283798Post ace »

WinnersOnly wrote:Yeah I think the Saints are foxing suggesting they are only going to take 18 y/o's and not use pick 77. They would be mad not go with a state league tall defender this year!
I expect Sydney not to use their 2 last live picks in the draft.
That then gives them 2 less senior players than most other clubs but 2 players salaries in addition to their "cost of living bonus".
They then buy players they really want rather than keeping their worst 2 list cloggers.

St Kilda met this year's salary cap by going one player short, they may be planning the same approach and thus not use pick 77.

(Well actually advance Dunnell's rookie upgrade to 77 and not use 95).


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Post: # 1283803Post savatage »

Not so sure about that, reckon we will take our full compliment of picks at present.


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If we did not use 77 for a draft pick, why not promote Curren thus freeing a rookie spot!


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borderbarry wrote:If we did not use 77 for a draft pick, why not promote Curren thus freeing a rookie spot!
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Post: # 1283812Post bakes »

I think you will find that Garlett's bad attitude has been over exaggerated and he is not as bad as the media are portraying him.
I think he will go top 20 and won't be available at pick 25.


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Post: # 1283814Post MC Gusto »

Agree on garlett. Will go before us


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bakes wrote:I think you will find that Garlett's bad attitude has been over exaggerated and he is not as bad as the media are portraying him.
I think he will go top 20 and won't be available at pick 25.
Spot on Bakes.....

....and I believe that we will take 5 new players.......also maybe one more delisting to come....


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Scoop wrote:also maybe one more delisting to come....
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Post: # 1283968Post gringo »

saints.com.au has the phantom draft up with us into Tanner Smith, Membrey, Garlett and Wright.

Smith, Garlett and Membrey would be pretty handy recruits if available. Despite s*** tats Membrey is very Jack Darling like and looks natural when he plays. Could be a bit of a junior Aaron Hamill with the right coach. I still hope we look at Colquhoun and Ashby if available. Neither flashy just good old fashioned footy players with good touch and ball finding ability.


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Whispers that Colqhuon will slide to about 30+

Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44


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Post: # 1283989Post gringo »

Sick Nal Danto wrote:Whispers that Colqhuon will slide to about 30+

Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44

I thought the tribe had spoken on Temay and he was s*** because his dad wasn't that good? If he came he would have the whipping boy position ready and waiting.


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gringo wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:Whispers that Colqhuon will slide to about 30+

Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44

I thought the tribe had spoken on Temay and he was s*** because his dad wasn't that good? If he came he would have the whipping boy position ready and waiting.
So the poor lad would be a 'chip off the old spud' eh? Yes, he sure would be up against it with the naysayers. :(


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Post: # 1284042Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:Whispers that Colqhuon will slide to about 30+

Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44

I thought the tribe had spoken on Temay and he was s*** because his dad wasn't that good? If he came he would have the whipping boy position ready and waiting.

This is one player I have some knowledge on. I wouldnt pick him because I dont think he is good enough. Nothing to do with his old man at all. The funny thing is people say Temay may go around pick 40 or so and the B&F winner at Dragons, Michael Barnes, wont go at all. If I was a recruiter and you had to pick one I would pick Barnes every time.


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Sick Nal Danto wrote:Whispers that Colqhuon will slide to about 30+

Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44
Of course we are :wink:


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Post: # 1284063Post Dr Spaceman »

Sick Nal Danto wrote: Also, Saints apparently interested in Tom Temay at pick 41/44
Won't happen.

After being in danger of breaching their "Tom Cap" a year ago, the Saints took the drastic step of letting Lynch and Walsh go, thus freeing up valuable Tom space.

However having now picked up Lee and Hickey in the last month, the club is once again flying close to the wind.

If they were to select Temay they risk going over the "Tom Cap" and, in doing so, risk the possibility of severe fines from the AFL.


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