How can we use the Rookie Draft?

[borderbarry]

How can we use the Rookie Draft?
The club has announced (or so I have read) that they will be using the rookie draft. The only way for that to happen means we either delist another rookie, or delist another senior player and promote Curren, probably our best option. Has anyone any knowledge on what we are going to do?

[doppler effect]

I think they will just wait until the NAB draft is over first. Then they will make more delistings/elevations and play with the room they have left over.

[stinger]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... 28mwy.html

"Adelaide, Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn and St Kilda are planning to bring in one and no more than two new rookies."

[bergholt]

How can we use the Rookie Draft?
The club has announced (or so I have read) that they will be using the rookie draft. The only way for that to happen means we either delist another rookie, or delist another senior player and promote Curren, probably our best option. Has anyone any knowledge on what we are going to do?

We can participate in the rookie draft with no further delistings. We just need to classify one of our veterans as inside the list. This takes away one National Draft pick and adds one in the Rookie Draft. So in effect we swap pick 77 in the ND for rookie pick x.

[Animal Enclosure]

Id imagine the reason why we would forgo pick 77 & wait til the rookie draft is so that Pelchen & co can re-assess where the list is at, who we got in the ND & do some more research on who is still available.

[bergholt]

Id imagine the reason why we would forgo pick 77 & wait til the rookie draft is so that Pelchen & co can re-assess where the list is at, who we got in the ND & do some more research on who is still available.

Yep, agreed. Rookie draft round one tends to be a pretty happy hunting ground.

2011: Kyal Horsley, Darren Pfeiffer, Addam Maric, Lee Spurr, Sam Dunell, Tom Bell
2010: Jonathan Giles, Josh Jenkins, Daniel Nicholson, Thomas Jonas, Cameron Pedersen, Ed Curnow, Luke Dahlhaus
2009: Sam Iles, Danny Stanley, Michael Barlow, Cameron Hitchcock, Mitch Golby, Luke Thompson, Brodie Moles
2008: Jordie McKenzie, Jeff Garlett, Robin Nahas, Ricky Henderson, Zac Dawson
2007: Aaron Joseph, Nathan Grima
2006: Sam Jacobs, Leigh Adams, Clint Jones, Sharrod Wellingham
2005: Alan Toovey, Angus Graham, Paul Duffield

Plenty of duds as well, obviously - it's not a guarantee! But I'd be more than happy to take a player there. Makes sense financially as well.

[saint6709]

They still might delist someone else - shenton comes to mind

[on the outer]

Another way to add a rookie is pick a category B rookie like Ferguson, we can have up to three players that either:
a) has not been registered or played in an Australian Football competition for three years immediately before inclusion on the Rookie List
b) is an International Player, meaning he is not an Australian citizen and has not lived in Australia for a substantial period of time (note: Irish players are excepted)
c) is a former NSW Scholarship player with that Club
d) is a former International Scholarship player with that Club.

Be interesting to know whether we could pick Khan Haretuku as he is a former NSW Scholarship player.

[Zed]

They still might delist someone else - shenton comes to mind

having read the coaches review of Shenton it didnt sound like they had plans to delist him ...

[stkildathunda]

How can we use the Rookie Draft?
The club has announced (or so I have read) that they will be using the rookie draft. The only way for that to happen means we either delist another rookie, or delist another senior player and promote Curren, probably our best option. Has anyone any knowledge on what we are going to do?

We can participate in the rookie draft with no further delistings. We just need to classify one of our veterans as inside the list. This takes away one National Draft pick and adds one in the Rookie Draft. So in effect we swap pick 77 in the ND for rookie pick x.

That veterans list rule is no longer relevant.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/news ... fault.aspx

General manager of list management Tim Harrington said Melbourne would have 44 players in total for next season. At the moment, the Demons have four vacancies on their primary list and two on their rookie list, meaning those positions will be filled over the rest of the November/December drafting period.

“The magic number for clubs is 44 players at your disposal, whether that’s 40 on your primary list and four rookies or you can choose to have 39 on your primary list and five rookies. Or you can have 38 and six,” he told melbournefc.com.au.

“The AFL also dropped the requirement to have ‘X’ amount of rookies, so you can choose whether to have rookies or not.

“If you do only have 39 on your primary list and five rookies, then one of those rookies can become your nominated rookie at the start of the year, who can play senior footy all year.

“There is no veterans list anymore, so the maximum number on your primary list is 40 and you can still have veterans, but the veteran criteria has changed … which is 10 years service to your club. The age limit of 30 years has been dropped and you can have as many veterans as you’d like on your primary list, who fulfill that category of 10 years service and you get roughly $130,000 per player outside of your cap.

“So they become primary listed players, instead of being on the veterans list, so that’s the fundamental change.”

[saintly]

How can we use the Rookie Draft?
The club has announced (or so I have read) that they will be using the rookie draft. The only way for that to happen means we either delist another rookie, or delist another senior player and promote Curren, probably our best option. Has anyone any knowledge on what we are going to do?

We can participate in the rookie draft with no further delistings. We just need to classify one of our veterans as inside the list. This takes away one National Draft pick and adds one in the Rookie Draft. So in effect we swap pick 77 in the ND for rookie pick x.

That veterans list rule is no longer relevant.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/news ... fault.aspx

General manager of list management Tim Harrington said Melbourne would have 44 players in total for next season. At the moment, the Demons have four vacancies on their primary list and two on their rookie list, meaning those positions will be filled over the rest of the November/December drafting period.

“The magic number for clubs is 44 players at your disposal, whether that’s 40 on your primary list and four rookies or you can choose to have 39 on your primary list and five rookies. Or you can have 38 and six,” he told melbournefc.com.au.

“The AFL also dropped the requirement to have ‘X’ amount of rookies, so you can choose whether to have rookies or not.

“If you do only have 39 on your primary list and five rookies, then one of those rookies can become your nominated rookie at the start of the year, who can play senior footy all year.

“There is no veterans list anymore, so the maximum number on your primary list is 40 and you can still have veterans, but the veteran criteria has changed … which is 10 years service to your club. The age limit of 30 years has been dropped and you can have as many veterans as you’d like on your primary list, who fulfill that category of 10 years service and you get roughly $130,000 per player outside of your cap.

“So they become primary listed players, instead of being on the veterans list, so that’s the fundamental change.”

So how many players do we have?

[plugger66]

Why give a pick in the first draft so you use the rookie draft unless we rate the 3 weeks of training as important.

[bergholt]

That veterans list rule is no longer relevant.

Ah, right, thanks mate. So for us the magic number is 45 as we have a Cat B rookie (Ferguson). We currently have 40, so we have five spare spots and we can use all of them either in the national draft or the rookie draft.

[Siposstar#2]

We should definitely look at Tom Schneider from hawthorn.
The kid is a jet and everyone I know who barracks for hawthorn are fuming.

[mad saint guy]

They still might delist someone else - shenton comes to mind

having read the coaches review of Shenton it didnt sound like they had plans to delist him ...

Those reviews do seem to give a fair bit away. Almost every player has a comment about the future, except for Raph, Andreoli, Winmar and Webster.

Shenton, Jones, Staley and Minchington all have comments on their 2013 pre season.

[saintly]

They still might delist someone else - shenton comes to mind

having read the coaches review of Shenton it didnt sound like they had plans to delist him ...

Those reviews do seem to give a fair bit away. Almost every player has a comment about the future, except for Raph, Andreoli, Winmar and Webster.

Shenton, Jones, Staley and Minchington all have comments on their 2013 pre season.

Interesting to find out what will happen to Winmar and Webster?

[SuperDuper]

I think Jones may be squeezed out. Curran is a ready made replacement. There are delisted free agents who offer more potential IMO.