Kosi or Stanley back?

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
shmic_s
Club Player
Posts: 966
Joined: Tue 03 Feb 2009 4:25pm
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280624Post shmic_s »

"It is going to be a squeeze from a big-man point of view. Whether we look at Rhys Stanley spending time down back or Kosi, it all depends what becomes available in the draft and what type of role we want to use Sam Fisher in this year," Watters said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6507868990

Sounds like Scott is going to look at a few different options for our 'new' key backman.


saintjake
Club Player
Posts: 1511
Joined: Sat 09 Feb 2008 1:49pm
Contact:

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280629Post saintjake »

shmic_s wrote:
"It is going to be a squeeze from a big-man point of view. Whether we look at Rhys Stanley spending time down back or Kosi, it all depends what becomes available in the draft and what type of role we want to use Sam Fisher in this year," Watters said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6507868990

Sounds like Scott is going to look at a few different options for our 'new' key backman.

Kosi has the turning circle of the queen mary.


User avatar
matrix
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21475
Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280632Post matrix »

stanley wont go back to much
smurfs already touted him as the heir to roos spot pretty much


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280636Post SainterK »

Yeah yeah, Kosi is slow....however I"m not sure the few games where we need someone on a gorilla forward, why he particularly needs to be fast?

If it's an athletic tall, he doesn't get them.


oh when the
Club Player
Posts: 681
Joined: Tue 07 Feb 2012 1:03pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280640Post oh when the »

Kosi lacks awareness for the backline


User avatar
borderbarry
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6676
Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 11:22pm
Location: Wodonga

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280642Post borderbarry »

It would be worthwhile at least trying Kosi at C.H.Back. He is no stranger to that position. He played there in the year he won the Rising Star Award.


Old Mate
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5624
Joined: Wed 15 Jun 2011 7:06pm

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280648Post Old Mate »

I wouldn't mind seeing Kosi down back for a laugh if we're 100 points up or something


User avatar
Uncle Barrels
Club Player
Posts: 330
Joined: Sun 18 Sep 2011 12:31pm
Location: Under the Thumb

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280649Post Uncle Barrels »

borderbarry wrote:It would be worthwhile at least trying Kosi at C.H.Back. He is no stranger to that position. He played there in the year he won the Rising Star Award.
He was a fair bit more agile back then, but I wouldn't completely discount the idea. All he has to do is run straight ahead and wrestle.

Hope it doesn't come to though. Be more interested in seeing him break the ton for Sandy


noddy04
Club Player
Posts: 709
Joined: Thu 19 Mar 2009 3:51pm
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280651Post noddy04 »

matrix wrote:stanley wont go back to much
smurfs already touted him as the heir to roos spot pretty much


LOL smurf :lol:


saint6709
Club Player
Posts: 1430
Joined: Tue 22 Sep 2009 8:23am
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280669Post saint6709 »

well hopefully he is just playing possum and has a very good idea who they will get in as a tall back - I can't believe he would be seriously considering kosi for the role


User avatar
Dis Believer
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5098
Joined: Sun 28 Mar 2004 1:42pm
Location: The terraces at Moorabbin, in the pouring rain.......
Has thanked: 289 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280671Post Dis Believer »

At least Roo will be safer if Kosi is at the other end of the paddock......

Given the way Kosi smacks the crap out of our forwards, there could be some merit in tuning him loose on the opposition forwards for a change.......


The heavy metal artist formerly known as True Believer!
IF you look around the room and can't identify who the sucker is, then it's probably you!
StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280675Post StNoodles »

borderbarry wrote:It would be worthwhile at least trying Kosi at C.H.Back. He is no stranger to that position. He played there in the year he won the Rising Star Award.
Where's that banging head against brick wall smilie?


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280677Post Con Gorozidis »

Love how everyone is already calling him "Tommy" Lee.


saintspremiers
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 25303
Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
Location: Trump Tower
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 284 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280678Post saintspremiers »

saintjake wrote:
shmic_s wrote:
"It is going to be a squeeze from a big-man point of view. Whether we look at Rhys Stanley spending time down back or Kosi, it all depends what becomes available in the draft and what type of role we want to use Sam Fisher in this year," Watters said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6507868990

Sounds like Scott is going to look at a few different options for our 'new' key backman.

Kosi has the turning circle of the queen mary.
That's not a fair comparison.

The Queen Mary can turn a full circle.


i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280680Post plugger66 »

SainterK wrote:Yeah yeah, Kosi is slow....however I"m not sure the few games where we need someone on a gorilla forward, why he particularly needs to be fast?

If it's an athletic tall, he doesn't get them.

A gorilla would actually beat him if he played back.


User avatar
8856brother
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4374
Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:58pm
Location: Twin Peaks
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280681Post 8856brother »

I am concerned about our future if our coach seriously thinks Kosi can play back. Mick Nolan would run rings around Kosi. Think Scotty might be taking the piss.

Hope he is anyway. :shock:


_______________________________________________________________________
"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
joffaboy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 20200
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:57pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280684Post joffaboy »

If this comes to fruition, my confidence in Watters as a coach willb e shaken to the core.

Kosi down back - lol.

Stanley down back - waste of an exciting ruckman/forward.

Find a farking fullback FFS :evil:


Lance or James??

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
clarky449
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4107
Joined: Sat 05 Apr 2008 12:29am
Location: Melbourne

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280712Post clarky449 »

I laughed. C'mon Scott, dont give us that crap. Unless you are actually serious, in that case.. Well i dont know what to say. Kosi down back, Jeez. Not agile, too slow. Dont even think about it.


Follow me for my expert opinions on Twitter @DanielClark93
clarky449
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4107
Joined: Sat 05 Apr 2008 12:29am
Location: Melbourne

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280713Post clarky449 »

borderbarry wrote:It would be worthwhile at least trying Kosi at C.H.Back. He is no stranger to that position. He played there in the year he won the Rising Star Award.
How old was he, how many years ago was that?

Please, i dont see how people can go back to that year and justify that as a reason for him to go back.


Follow me for my expert opinions on Twitter @DanielClark93
saintspremiers
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 25303
Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
Location: Trump Tower
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 284 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280744Post saintspremiers »

joffaboy wrote:If this comes to fruition, my confidence in Watters as a coach willb e shaken to the core.

Kosi down back - lol.

Stanley down back - waste of an exciting ruckman/forward.

Find a farking fullback FFS :evil:
Agree.

Our only real hope is through the latest FA period. Can't see us drafting a ready made 18 yr old fullback.

Only other option is drafting a 21 or 22 yr old VFL/SANFL/WAFL fullback if a decent one exists.


i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
User avatar
WinnersOnly
SS Life Member
Posts: 3059
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 10:24pm
Location: Canberra

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280755Post WinnersOnly »

I think the idea of Kosi going back has some merit, particularly on certain opponents ! A number of clubs play tall slow full forwards like Cox, Tippet, Clark, Merret, Lynch, McKernan-Jenkins and Kreuzer-Hampson. I believe he could even manage Hawkins & Roughhead with some help !

Just remember people playing forward has always been more difficult (physically) than being a defender - he may just surprise a few !


SAINTS another day older another day closer to the Holy Grail!
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280756Post plugger66 »

WinnersOnly wrote:I think the idea of Kosi going back has some merit, particularly on certain opponents ! A number of clubs play tall slow full forwards like Cox, Tippet, Clark, Merret, Lynch, McKernan-Jenkins and Kreuzer-Hampson. I believe he could even manage Hawkins & Roughhead with some help !

Just remember people playing forward has always been more difficult (physically) than being a defender - he may just surprise a few !

I actually reckon out of all those players you mentioned that Hampson and Cox are slow and even they would be quicker than Kosi. SW was taking the piss for sure. Kosi could never play as a FB or any position in the backline not unless we are tanking.


User avatar
saintdooley
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4571
Joined: Mon 20 Feb 2006 2:32pm

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280794Post saintdooley »

this has got to be some sick joke.


"Another storied win in Robert Harvey's career. They say he is the embodiment of their motto of strength through loyalty, and on the day he became just the tenth man to play 350 league games the saints reward him with a seemingly impossible victory."
User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280798Post saintsRrising »

For those proposing to play Kosi down back....can you please stop and consider what he is like in body on body work.

= even undersized players can push him over

For those proposing to play Kosi down back....can you please stop and consider what he is like on the burst.

= fast leading forwards would leave him well behind.

So given the above, exactly what criteria do you think actually makes him suitable to be a key defender?
Last edited by saintsRrising on Thu 01 Nov 2012 8:44pm, edited 1 time in total.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
User avatar
saintdooley
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4571
Joined: Mon 20 Feb 2006 2:32pm

Re: Kosi or Stanley back?

Post: # 1280818Post saintdooley »

we might as well just bring raph back. if kosi is our only answer bring him back. and Fiora while we're at it.


"Another storied win in Robert Harvey's career. They say he is the embodiment of their motto of strength through loyalty, and on the day he became just the tenth man to play 350 league games the saints reward him with a seemingly impossible victory."
Post Reply