Big Bodied Backman for 2013

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
Quixote
SS Life Member
Posts: 2793
Joined: Fri 05 Jan 2007 2:57pm
Location: Look for the windmills

Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278073Post Quixote »

Well trade period just ended... and this remains a huge problem for us.

I can only assume now we'll be scouring the draft for a mature full-back.


Thoughts?


Fortius Quo Fidelius Yo
bergholt
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7356
Joined: Wed 11 Aug 2004 9:25am

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278082Post bergholt »

Quixote wrote:Well trade period just ended... and this remains a huge problem for us.

I can only assume now we'll be scouring the draft for a mature full-back.


Thoughts?
Just play Wilkes at the back. He's not that good at it, but surely he's about as good as anyone playing full-back in a state league?

Anyway, there's a lot of competition for tall forward spots - Roo, Kosi, Stanley, Lee, McEvoy/Hickey - so I don't think he gets many games if he can only play down there.


User avatar
St Loxton
Club Player
Posts: 1232
Joined: Mon 02 Feb 2009 9:50pm
Location: Jindivick
Has thanked: 225 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278089Post St Loxton »

Scour the state leagues.


chook23
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7405
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 9:31am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 157 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278099Post chook23 »

Quixote wrote:Well trade period just ended... and this remains a huge problem for us.

I can only assume now we'll be scouring the draft for a mature full-back.


Thoughts?
Odds are that Brown may continue on with WC after 2013

Some posters are saying we will get him next year...................I doubt it

Do we scour the draft for a mature FB or pick best available KPD youngster pick 25/26


saint4life
User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278104Post Dr Spaceman »

chook23 wrote:
Quixote wrote:Well trade period just ended... and this remains a huge problem for us.

I can only assume now we'll be scouring the draft for a mature full-back.


Thoughts?
Odds are that Brown may continue on with WC after 2013

Some posters are saying we will get him next year...................I doubt it

Do we scour the draft for a mature FB or pick best available KPD youngster pick 25/26
I'd say both. Longer term we're gonna need more than one new Key Defender.


creepypolar
Club Player
Posts: 175
Joined: Wed 19 Oct 2011 5:20pm

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278110Post creepypolar »

tanner smith? mclurey?


mr six o'clock
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4327
Joined: Fri 17 Nov 2006 1:05am
Has thanked: 56 times
Been thanked: 245 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278112Post mr six o'clock »

With our last pick , how about a 36 yr old Max Hudgeton .


We've done allot worse in recent years !


In red white and black from 73
User avatar
sainterinsydney
Club Player
Posts: 781
Joined: Mon 30 Nov 2009 11:03am
Been thanked: 22 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278117Post sainterinsydney »

Joel Tippett?


FQF
SS Life Member
Posts: 2595
Joined: Fri 03 Jul 2009 1:24am

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278131Post FQF »

creepypolar wrote:tanner smith? mclurey?
Tanner smith is only 194cm, isn't much of an improvement from Simpkin as the FB.


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278132Post Dr Spaceman »

sainterinsydney wrote:Joel Tippett?
His dad says "No".


User avatar
WinnersOnly
SS Life Member
Posts: 3059
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 10:24pm
Location: Canberra

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278143Post WinnersOnly »

sainterinsydney wrote:Joel Tippett?
He would be my choice but obviously the recruitment team will have a number of mature players they would have looked at.

Perhaps our short term answer is to use one of our tall forwards down back eg Stanley given that we now have Lee & Hickey. I dont think it would hurt his development and definitely think he could fill the void. We seem to be really pidgeon holing players these days - time for some lateral thinking Mr WATTERS.
Last edited by WinnersOnly on Fri 26 Oct 2012 2:31pm, edited 1 time in total.


SAINTS another day older another day closer to the Holy Grail!
paddy
Club Player
Posts: 642
Joined: Thu 11 Aug 2011 7:06pm

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278148Post paddy »

Yeah.... we need to be looking for something decent from the state leagues....

Just someone to outbody the opposition gorillas....

star CHF and FF will prob still walk over us, but its the resting giants that we need to curtail....


Burkey 1
Club Player
Posts: 143
Joined: Mon 01 Mar 2010 9:39pm

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278161Post Burkey 1 »

What about Gillies from Geelong, I know he's not a monster full back but he should help ??


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278162Post plugger66 »

WinnersOnly wrote:
sainterinsydney wrote:Joel Tippett?
He would be my choice but obviously the recruitment team will have a number of mature players they would have looked at.

Perhaps our short term answer is to use one of our tall forwards down back eg Stanley given that we now have Lee & Hickey. I dont think it would hurt his development and definitely think he could fill the void.

Stanley couldnt and wont play FB. Not sure who will but it wont be him. Played CHB a couple of times at Sandy last year and didnt have much of a clue.


StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 913
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278181Post StNoodles »

Really, really disappointing not to land a FB.

Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.

Very poor.


User avatar
WinnersOnly
SS Life Member
Posts: 3059
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 10:24pm
Location: Canberra

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278188Post WinnersOnly »

StNoodles wrote:Really, really disappointing not to land a FB.

Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.

Very poor.
Gilham wasn't the answer - will be better off taking an educated risk on a state league defender.


SAINTS another day older another day closer to the Holy Grail!
StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 913
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278203Post StNoodles »

WinnersOnly wrote:
StNoodles wrote:Really, really disappointing not to land a FB.

Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.

Very poor.
Gilham wasn't the answer - will be better off taking an educated risk on a state league defender.
We could have got him for very little one would assume, given what GWS secured him with.

We should have got him AND a state league defender imo.


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278210Post Con Gorozidis »

Should be able to spend 25/26 on kids and 44 on Hartigan. + promote Ferguson. So no panic.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/localfo ... 6344953048
Last edited by Con Gorozidis on Fri 26 Oct 2012 2:56pm, edited 2 times in total.


bergholt
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7356
Joined: Wed 11 Aug 2004 9:25am

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278225Post bergholt »

StNoodles wrote:Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.
Gilham's 192cm. He's basically the same size as Simpkin but six years older. Why bother signing a player like that?


StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 913
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278232Post StNoodles »

bergholt wrote:
StNoodles wrote:Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.
Gilham's 192cm. He's basically the same size as Simpkin but six years older. Why bother signing a player like that?
Because he held down FB in a Premiership team?


bergholt
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7356
Joined: Wed 11 Aug 2004 9:25am

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278236Post bergholt »

StNoodles wrote:
bergholt wrote:
StNoodles wrote:Gilham was there for the taking, yet we focused on Brown who WCE said wouldn't be traded, and we missed out on both.
Gilham's 192cm. He's basically the same size as Simpkin but six years older. Why bother signing a player like that?
Because he held down FB in a Premiership team?
...and now that same team is playing Ryan Schoenmakers ahead of him.


StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 913
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278251Post StNoodles »

bergholt wrote:
...and now that same team is playing Ryan Schoenmakers ahead of him.
And if Schoenmakers was available in the draft I'd have wanted us to trade for him.

What don't you get? We don't have a full back.
Last edited by StNoodles on Fri 26 Oct 2012 3:02pm, edited 1 time in total.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278255Post SainterK »

Appears we focused on a contracted required player.

Not the best strategy.

Time for them to fix it by some other means, because it needs fixing.


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278256Post plugger66 »

StNoodles wrote:
bergholt wrote:
...and now that same team is playing Ryan Schoenmakers ahead of him.
And if Schoenmakers was available in the draft I'd have wanted us to draft him.

What don't you get? We don't have a full back.

Gilham isnt the type we wanted. if we wanted that type we have Simpkin to do the job.


StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 913
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Big Bodied Backman for 2013

Post: # 1278265Post StNoodles »

plugger66 wrote:
StNoodles wrote:
bergholt wrote:
...and now that same team is playing Ryan Schoenmakers ahead of him.
And if Schoenmakers was available in the draft I'd have wanted us to draft him.

What don't you get? We don't have a full back.

Gilham isnt the type we wanted. if we wanted that type we have Simpkin to do the job.
And Trent Dennis-Lane is the type we wanted, apparently.

I'd rather have picked up a player who could potentially hold down FB, than another small forward.

I'm baffled by today.


Post Reply