Playing for Toy

[ace]

News Toy wants out of Gold Coast, wants to return to Melbourne.
Gold Coast was able to snap him up as an under age player but he was generally considered top 3 draft quality.

Melbourne has pick 3
Western Bulldogs have picks 5 & 6
Richmond 9 & 32
Carlton 11 & 36
North 15, 38 & 39
Geelong 16 & 59
Collingwood 18, 19 & 21
St Kilda 25 & 26
Essendon & Hawthorn don't have any decent picks left.

We probably don't have enough pick quality to get him but if Melbourne or the Bulldogs don't cough up one their early picks Gold Coast may be forced to take what they can get.

[savatage]

We definitely wouldn't waste our second round picks on him, so I doubt it from our perspective.

[mr six o'clock]

I would toy with the notion of a third round pick !

[Saintersss]

He is an interesting one. Rated very highly as a junior, but has been very poor at AFL level and although he has been cleared medically, you would still have to have a slight worry about his heart.

[saintspremiers]

Lets just hope the AFL are pumping all their effort into punishing cheating Adelaide at this years draft not investigating as to why so many up and coming GC players want to piss off from their lovechild club!

[plugger66]

Lets just hope the AFL are pumping all their effort into punishing cheating Adelaide at this years draft not investigating as to why so many up and coming GC players want to piss off from their lovechild club!

So should we get Toy or knock the AFL? No interest in Toy. Does have a chance to fit the inkury criteria and from what ive seen could fit the Sandy criteria. No where near the age criteria.

[matrix]

pass
no want

[St Ick]

If we'd wanted Toy, we would have picked him up as part of the Hickey deal.

I heard he was present at Western Bulldogs training, so I'd expect they somehow get him, maybe with a preseason draft pick?

[Thinline]

Toy will be a significantly better player in Melbourne near his family. He lost his father with whom he was very close not long before agreeing to go to the Suns and he feels a great deal of responsibility to his mum and sisters. Frankly, he probably shouldn't have gone north in the first place but his old man insisted he take the chance.

A very good player. Smart too.

He'll flourish now he's home, I'm certain of it.

Not tall enough for our purposes atm, but he will be a handy get elsewhere.

[ace]

Seems Essendon (picks 35, 52, 55, 75) and Hawthorn (picks 28, 65, 66, 84) are interested.
Also Bulldogs are claimed to be interested but say they wont be trading picks 5, 6 or 22 that leaves picks 51, 71, 89.

I dont see Gold Coast being so generous to any of those 3.

Bulldogs could steal him in the pre season draft so Gold Coast will do a deal with some club before 2PM tomorrow.

If he went to the Bulldogs would he become Julia's new Toy Boy.

[gringo]

I would give up a third rounder because he does come with some risks involved. Upside is huge though.

[MC Gusto]

The heart condition is an unknown but that is exactly it - it is unknown!! The risk has been priced in already eg his asking price is über low for a kid of his talents. The upside could, could be huge

[St Ick]

Think GC could look after us considering they got Broughts for a steal with our pick? Chances are he'll be one of those delisted free agents anyway. Shrugs, ge could be what BS on BF keep talking about how there is something else (so good he cant talk about)...

[ace]

Here was me thinking St Kilda should make a play for Josh Toy because he was once considered a top 3 draft pick had he gone into a normal draft.
Despite him initiating his own departure from Gold Coast, he was formally delisted by Gold Coast, so he was eligible as a "Delisted Free Agent".
Any club could have picked him up without using a draft pick.
Now the delisted free agency period has expired with no club interested.

His heart condition must be pretty serious if all clubs think such a talented player can never play AFL again.

I also note that no-one wanted Jason Gram, Raph Clarke, Brett Peake or Dean Polo.

[dragit]

If he was offered a contract by GCS, he doesn't qualify for this free agency period apparently.

[Dr Spaceman]

Here was me thinking St Kilda should make a play for Josh Toy because he was once considered a top 3 draft pick had he gone into a normal draft.

I think you really just wanted recognition of your witty thread title.

Well done.

[bergholt]

Here was me thinking St Kilda should make a play for Josh Toy because he was once considered a top 3 draft pick had he gone into a normal draft.

Richard Lounder was "considered" a number one draft pick in 1987. How did he go?

Maybe it makes no difference how they were "considered" before the draft. Clubs learn more about a player in one year on the list than in the entire four years they've been watching them before the draft. Maybe all the clubs were wrong on Toy - it does happen.

[magnifisaint]

Here was me thinking St Kilda should make a play for Josh Toy because he was once considered a top 3 draft pick had he gone into a normal draft.

Richard Lounder was "considered" a number one draft pick in 1987. How did he go?

Maybe it makes no difference how they were "considered" before the draft. Clubs learn more about a player in one year on the list than in the entire four years they've been watching them before the draft. Maybe all the clubs were wrong on Toy - it does happen.

He changed his name to Richard Flounder

[Sick Nal Danto]

1987 draft and 2010

There are no comparisons there, except that they are both AFL drafts