Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey

[borderbarry]

We gave up Goddard and Pick 12 and as a result we now have Lee and Hickey, plus the first two picks in the second and 3rd rounds. Not too bad at all, although I would now like us to trade an older player with GWS for one of the top picks.

[saintjake]

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[markp]

Paying slightly overs (or not) is less relevant when it's something you desperately need.

During a battle Richard III was prepared to trade his kingdom for a horse.... I once paid $12 for a small bottle of water at a kiosk near the eiffel tower.

He's what we needed, he's what we got... good news.

[SainterK]

He's what we needed, he's what we got... good news.

This I agree with...

Hopefully we can fill the other glaring need.

[hayes66]

I am continually amazed how people are so critical of past decisions. If everything was so bad previously then we must of had a lot of luck to play in the 09 and 010 grand finals. As for previous trade and draft decisions, yes there were mistakes. For example McEvoy why the hell do we pck me? Can only mark and has no potential for improvement. Steven pick 40 something surely there was a better player. Stanley at pick 47?.. Please there must of been better athletic prospects than that. And who was the clown that picked Simpkin as a rookie? I fail to see why we picked Siposs at pick 70 what posseed them? Trades, Schiender, Dempster and Ray, hacks. Ah yeah Lynch at pick 13 well at least we where able to trade him to those dumbo's Adelaide for a pick in the thirties.
All in all a pathetic effort by past recruiters and administrators.
For what it's worth I think The Saints have done ok in this recent trade period. I am a little concerned with the Tom Lee decision but believe Hickey, whilst coming at a high cost, will be good.

[stinger]

i am prepared to wait and see on this kid...one thing i do know...we needed to go into next year with another ruckman ready to play....


"like most clubs across the competition, we follow opposition players. Tom has been developing quite well at Gold Coast. He played 10 games this year and really bore the mantle of No.1 ruckman up there ahead of some fairly handy players in Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon,'' he said.

"Ultimately, we'll get two players for what would have been our pick 13. Getting Tom through the door initially and then pick 26. So it's not a stand-alone pick that we've traded away.

"We did something similar last year with picks 20 and 25 (last season) and picked up Ahmed Saad and Terry Milera. So it has been worthwhile.''


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[SaintTom]

Paying slightly overs (or not) is less relevant when it's something you desperately need.

During a battle Richard III was prepared to trade his kingdom for a horse.... I once paid $12 for a small bottle of water at a kiosk near the eiffel tower.

He's what we needed, he's what we got... good news.

Well, according to Shakespeare anyway. What did he know? He was just some guy who made up words.

Certainly agree though. We're using our picks to grab players who are promising, young, and fill holes going forward. Often the most difficult holes. There will always be a bunch of good midfielders in the draft. A good ruckman or full forward comes around much less often.

[stinger]

gee whiz- hed want to be a gun.
what does it say about macca?
we use 12 on macca and a few years later chuck 13 at hickey.
I am NEVER comfortable spending a high pick on a ruckman. risky with a capital R

carlton used their no 1 pick on a ruckman....west coast no2....gardiner was a no 1 pick.....there have been others.....the filth's fraser was a dud though....

[St Ick]

With all of this talk of his basketball career on here... I thought I'd bring up that my understanding was that he was an elite Volleyballer. Am I thinking of someone else or was that Hickey?

[The Jeff]

With all of this talk of his basketball career on here... I thought I'd bring up that my understanding was that he was an elite Volleyballer. Am I thinking of someone else or was that Hickey?

You are correct. He was an elite Volleyballer, from all reports.

[MrCordz]

Not a great move IMO. Pick 13 shouldnt be let go for an unproven ruckman. Got to say we have punted our future this trade period. If it comes off it sets us up in a few years. if it doesnt we will be down for even longer than I originally thought. Surely GC are laughing at us now. Pelchan and his crew have lost BJ and pick 12 for Lee, Hickey and 25 and 26. Huge price to pay.

We used a lower pick than that to secure the unproven macevoy

[MrCordz]

i am prepared to wait and see on this kid...one thing i do know...we needed to go into next year with another ruckman ready to play....


"like most clubs across the competition, we follow opposition players. Tom has been developing quite well at Gold Coast. He played 10 games this year and really bore the mantle of No.1 ruckman up there ahead of some fairly handy players in Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon,'' he said.

"Ultimately, we'll get two players for what would have been our pick 13. Getting Tom through the door initially and then pick 26. So it's not a stand-alone pick that we've traded away.

"We did something similar last year with picks 20 and 25 (last season) and picked up Ahmed Saad and Terry Milera. So it has been worthwhile.''


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[stinger]

i am prepared to wait and see on this kid...one thing i do know...we needed to go into next year with another ruckman ready to play....


"like most clubs across the competition, we follow opposition players. Tom has been developing quite well at Gold Coast. He played 10 games this year and really bore the mantle of No.1 ruckman up there ahead of some fairly handy players in Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon,'' he said.

"Ultimately, we'll get two players for what would have been our pick 13. Getting Tom through the door initially and then pick 26. So it's not a stand-alone pick that we've traded away.

"We did something similar last year with picks 20 and 25 (last season) and picked up Ahmed Saad and Terry Milera. So it has been worthwhile.''


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thanks mate...

[sunsaint]

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not his words, and the link doesnt work

[Megamaguire]

Welcome Tom, look forward to seeing you have a great career at our Saints.

Interesting reading the responses to our news. I must admit i winced a bit to learn we had used our rare Pk. 13 - too many grand finals!
Obviously the recruiting brains trust really believe in their summary of where the team can be most quickly and structurally improved (ie) quality RUCK backup and a TALL DEFENDER. This was a roll of the dice but perhaps we had little choice. If Hickey settles in; gets heaps of good support and demands a spot every week i will not care if we had to use a nb. 13 pick or higher to add him to our team. The likes of Simpkin; Saad; Newness; Siposs & Ross gives me confidence that the club knows what to look for.

[samoht]

He's only listed at 87 kgs - would that be his current weight ?

[savatage]

96KG last listed weight for Hickey.

[samoht]

96KG last listed weight for Hickey.

Thanks sav.
That sounds a bit better !

[Zed]

No doubt Hickey has potential.. and I am pleased to have him on the list.

But I would have preferred to use pick #13 on a player who slots straight into the team and is more than a fringe player / insurance policy.

[plugger66]

good ordinary players nearly won us a flag numpty...twice

Yep good call. We didnt have Lenny, Rooy, BJ, Dal, Chips, Joey and one or two others better than GOPS. Really you dont get it do you?

[mordi]

I thought this was interesting from Suns bio....

Hickey started playing football late after being a Queensland junior volleyball representative.Hickey is a project ruckman who spent most of the season in the reserves before suffering a knee injury that sidelined him for eight weeks.

He made a promising debut in round 22 against Adelaide, collecting 14 touches and kicking a goal.

The son of a former top-level Brisbane rugby league player, Hickey joined the GC SUNS as a Queensland Zone priority selection at the end of the 2010 VFL season.

Despite his relatively late arrival to the sport, Hickey was a standout at the recent NAB AFL Draft Combine at the AIS in Canberra. He was the best-performed ruckman in the agility test and equal second best among ruckmen in the beep test. He also ranked second overall in the new 'clean hands' test.

[joffaboy]

good ordinary players nearly won us a flag numpty...twice

Yep good call. We didnt have Lenny, Rooy, BJ, Dal, Chips, Joey and one or two others better than GOPS. Really you dont get it do you?

Lenny #13
Dal #13
Chips # 50 something
Joey # 48

All of these players as you can see were no lower than #13 and all much better than GOP's. Roo and bj are what they are champions, but Ball (GOP) X, Raph, Brookes, Kosi, Betham. All high dp's who were or are only GOP's

[plugger66]

I thought this was interesting from Suns bio....

Hickey started playing football late after being a Queensland junior volleyball representative.Hickey is a project ruckman who spent most of the season in the reserves before suffering a knee injury that sidelined him for eight weeks.

He made a promising debut in round 22 against Adelaide, collecting 14 touches and kicking a goal.

The son of a former top-level Brisbane rugby league player, Hickey joined the GC SUNS as a Queensland Zone priority selection at the end of the 2010 VFL season.

Despite his relatively late arrival to the sport, Hickey was a standout at the recent NAB AFL Draft Combine at the AIS in Canberra. He was the best-performed ruckman in the agility test and equal second best among ruckmen in the beep test. He also ranked second overall in the new 'clean hands' test.

Can you do that in another colour.

[SaintPav]

I thought this was interesting from Suns bio....

Hickey started playing football late after being a Queensland junior volleyball representative.Hickey is a project ruckman who spent most of the season in the reserves before suffering a knee injury that sidelined him for eight weeks.

He made a promising debut in round 22 against Adelaide, collecting 14 touches and kicking a goal.

The son of a former top-level Brisbane rugby league player, Hickey joined the GC SUNS as a Queensland Zone priority selection at the end of the 2010 VFL season.

Despite his relatively late arrival to the sport, Hickey was a standout at the recent NAB AFL Draft Combine at the AIS in Canberra. He was the best-performed ruckman in the agility test and equal second best among ruckmen in the beep test. He also ranked second overall in the new 'clean hands' test.[/color]

Can you do that in another colour.

My good deed for the day. I feel better about myself.

[plugger66]

I thought this was interesting from Suns bio....

Hickey started playing football late after being a Queensland junior volleyball representative.Hickey is a project ruckman who spent most of the season in the reserves before suffering a knee injury that sidelined him for eight weeks.

He made a promising debut in round 22 against Adelaide, collecting 14 touches and kicking a goal.

The son of a former top-level Brisbane rugby league player, Hickey joined the GC SUNS as a Queensland Zone priority selection at the end of the 2010 VFL season.

Despite his relatively late arrival to the sport, Hickey was a standout at the recent NAB AFL Draft Combine at the AIS in Canberra. He was the best-performed ruckman in the agility test and equal second best among ruckmen in the beep test. He also ranked second overall in the new 'clean hands' test.[/color]

Can you do that in another colour.

My good deed for the day. I feel better about myself.

Thanks. My computer skills rank with my spelling.