Raph de-listed??

[saintdooley]

This sums up Raph:

You left off the bit before Fisher ran past instead of shepparding Rooke!

Never lived up to potential for many reasons but copped more than he deserved from arm chair experts

you left out the bit where his peripheral vision is absolutely appalling and had more than enough time to pass that off but under pressue has no ball handling skill whatsoever.

[SaintPav]

Raph's time at the saints is probably up but some people forget his good games like the first two finals of 09. His prelim was pretty good and his drive helped us get out of jail and into the GF.

[SaintPav]

This sums up Raph:

that sums you up. Show a bit of respect. Pull your head in.

[Dr Spaceman]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

[SaintPav]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

Good point.

[The Redeemer]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

Good point.

It still didn't when it did and somehow Sam Fisher gets blamed for it despite Raph Clarke getting rundown from behind.

Now go away Raph.

8 years of crap and getting paid very well to be crappy.

[SaintPav]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

Good point.

It still didn't when it did and somehow Sam Fisher gets blamed for it despite Raph Clarke getting rundown from behind.

Now go away Raph.

8 years of crap and getting paid very well to be crappy.

Do you watch the game with two eyes? You think most of our players are crap.

[ace]

The sad thing is not one of the other 17 clubs were prepared to offer Raph 50 cents a year.
They did not want him to clog a place on their list.
Given he could be taken without having to give up a draft pick his chances of finding another club during the draft and uncontracted player free agency period are now zero.

Raph's only hope is St Kilda being willing to hang on to him as backup, but Watters is more likely prepared to give a young kid a place on the list ahead of Raph.

[georgie girl]

i hate disrespect towards any of our players and he was someone who wore our colours with pride. His body let him down early and eventually he was pushed out by youth but doesn't detract from the valuable performances he gave for us. Got us up against the Bulldogs in the finals. Will sadly be remembered for a run down in a GF but better than given credit for. Thanks Raph in what ever the future holds. Glad you played for the Saints. Respect.

+1 Well said!

[Dr Spaceman]

I get it that some supporters like some players more than other players.

I get it that some supporters rate some players higher than other players.

But I'll never get supporters who express pure joy at the thought of one of our player's career coming to an end

[HitTheBoundary]

But I'll never get supporters who express pure joy at the thought of one of our player's career coming to an end

Some "supporters" never actually support.......
They all have the same philosophy

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

They also forget the Milne dribble from 45 out that fell 10m short... Or the Schnider gimme shots that he sprayed ... Or the Fact Harry Taylor owned Roo for the entire G/F .... But your right that one blunder by Raph cost us the game

[skeptic]

That pic of Raph just sums up the mentality...

there are some people that simply are not objective

[Scoop]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

They also forget the Milne dribble from 45 out that fell 10m short... Or the Schnider gimme shots that he sprayed ... Or the Fact Harry Taylor owned Roo for the entire G/F .... But your right that one blunder by Raph cost us the game

Exactly Dr and Trav.

The reason we lost that game is that players whose job was to kick goals didn't.....

I am sad to see Raph go....and it really p****s me off that there are some on here that only see his clangers and not the majority of good things that he did....e.g. the 2009 prelim....would not have made the GF without his contribution....

[Buckets]

Funny how some people like to bang on about Raph costing us the 09 GF by getting run down from behind.

Wasn't that very early on in the first quarter?

Didn't we hit the lead after that?

Didn't we lead for most of the game until well into the final quarter?

Never mind

They also forget the Milne dribble from 45 out that fell 10m short... Or the Schnider gimme shots that he sprayed ... Or the Fact Harry Taylor owned Roo for the entire G/F .... But your right that one blunder by Raph cost us the game

They also seem to forget that he was instrumental for us the week before taking many last line marks against the doggies in the PF. They all heap glory on Roo for winning the game with his goals but Raph was probably more important for us in the backline that night. Actually had him as our best. Cops too much flack!

[SainterK]

[groupie1]

Apparently carlton had some interest - I'd do a straight swap with Bower ( call me mad !) i actually think Bower isn't a bad player - good size can run - seems to have the fire in his belly - not sure why he is on the outer at carlton

Bower is 192cm and 92 kgs...another one to play on the 3rd tall...we've got an abundance of them

Plus, i thought STK had a 'no-cretin' policy... thereby eliminating the chance of a trade for a current Carlton footballer. Those blokes are f****** maggots.

[skeptic]

has he actually been delisted?

[bigcarl]

thanks for that K.

My memory of this game is hazy as I have never been more nervous at a football match and spent halftime pacing the concourse.

Was Raph injured early then came back on?

[The Redeemer]

He is going and thank christ.

He makes consistent mistakes that school footballers would not make and has the awareness of a 5 year old playing little league just wanting the football because he/she can.

Not good enough and has been on the list for 4 years too long @ 250k = give me the money back

[SaintPav]

He is going and thank christ.

He makes consistent mistakes that school footballers would not make and has the awareness of a 5 year old playing little league just wanting the football because he/she can.

Not good enough and has been on the list for 4 years too long @ 250k = give me the money back

Now you're trying to be all pc on us with "he/she" can. That is very funny.

Posters have responded to you with examples of when Raph did play some decent games and helped his team get over the line in three big finals. The 2009 Prelim is one example. Not to mention the guts Raph showed time and again putting his head over the ball and backing into packs.

All you have responded is with your negative, vitriolic school boy subjective crap that tells us nothing.

He has done more than most people will ever do on a football field and given his medical condition, that is a fair effort.

Oh, and he’s a much better bloke than you will ever hope to be.

Like I said before, pull your head in. Now have a nice day.

[borderbarry]

No he has not been delisted.
I hope redeemer gets delisted first.

[skeptic]

He makes consistent mistakes that school footballers would not make back

More than CJ or Gram

Consistent mistakes???

Define that to me and back it up.

Have a look at the game VS North. He got run down sure but more than anyone is was one of the few that presented consistently, contest after contest.

I think where you go wrong Redeemer is that you're a highlights reel supporter.


I bet your one of the supporters that watched that game and marvelled at Adam Schenieder's great first 1/4 and was oblivious to the fact that he barely touched it for the last 3.

Yet Raph is hung out to dry for being run down even though he had a much more positive impact than Adam

[St Chris]

If Ray leaves, I'd give Raph another year on a minimum contract. There's nothing wrong with having a couple of experienced guys running around at Sandy for depth.

[bigcarl]

More than CJ or Gram

Consistent mistakes???

Define that to me and back it up.

Have a look at the game VS North. He got run down sure but more than anyone is was one of the few that presented consistently, contest after contest.

I think where you go wrong Redeemer is that you're a highlights reel supporter.


I bet your one of the supporters that watched that game and marvelled at Adam Schenieder's great first 1/4 and was oblivious to the fact that he barely touched it for the last 3.

Yet Raph is hung out to dry for being run down even though he had a much more positive impact than Adam

The only people who don't make mistakes are, wait for it, people who do nothing. We've had a few of those over the years.

Give me a doer every time