Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272180Post dragit »

True Believer wrote:Maybe we ned to arrange a three way deal with someone like the bulldogs, who are reported to be into Koby Stevens. if WCE are prepared to swap Stevens (and maybe a pick) for Cripps, then we send Stevens to the Dogs for a pick (say 21). We then send that pick to WCE for Brown.

What level of pick would Mitch Brown and Koby Stevens be rated at??? I knew nothing of Koby Stevens prior to trade week so have no real feel of his worth.
I think WCE would prefer to deal directly with dogs without losing Brown. Stevens - dogs 2nd round straight swap.


StNoodles
Club Player
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005 12:04pm
Location: Melb.
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272183Post StNoodles »

True Believer wrote:Maybe we ned to arrange a three way deal with someone like the bulldogs, who are reported to be into Koby Stevens. if WCE are prepared to swap Stevens (and maybe a pick) for Cripps, then we send Stevens to the Dogs for a pick (say 21). We then send that pick to WCE for Brown.

What level of pick would Mitch Brown and Koby Stevens be rated at??? I knew nothing of Koby Stevens prior to trade week so have no real feel of his worth.
There was much hype about Stevens pre-season.

Was tipped to be one of the comp's big improvers, but never really lived up to the hype.


St Ick
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2227
Joined: Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:37pm

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272186Post St Ick »

StNoodles wrote:
True Believer wrote:Maybe we ned to arrange a three way deal with someone like the bulldogs, who are reported to be into Koby Stevens. if WCE are prepared to swap Stevens (and maybe a pick) for Cripps, then we send Stevens to the Dogs for a pick (say 21). We then send that pick to WCE for Brown.

What level of pick would Mitch Brown and Koby Stevens be rated at??? I knew nothing of Koby Stevens prior to trade week so have no real feel of his worth.
There was much hype about Stevens per season.

Was tipped to be one of the comps big improvers, but never really lived up to the hype.
Maybe due to Scott Selwood having a breakout season. Not to mention Priddis and Kerr killing it. He never really got a chance but yes, he is/was highly rated... I'd be happy to part with a 2nd or 3rd rounder if we miss Caddy.


Strength through Loyalty
Go those mighty Sainters!!
User avatar
matrix
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21475
Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272190Post matrix »

we will miss caddy
he'll go to geelong (imo)

they will offer more


Sobraz
SS Life Member
Posts: 3399
Joined: Thu 29 Mar 2007 1:06pm
Has thanked: 2 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272277Post Sobraz »

Seems Mitch is still very keen to get to the Saints, or get out of WC at least...

I'm thinking a deal will get done somewhere along the line once WC lose the chip on their shoulder... He'll walk a year later and they'll get nothing otherwise..

Should get through..


User avatar
SaintTom
Club Player
Posts: 390
Joined: Tue 20 Oct 2009 1:42pm
Location: Scandinavia

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272286Post SaintTom »

Sobraz wrote:Seems Mitch is still very keen to get to the Saints, or get out of WC at least...

I'm thinking a deal will get done somewhere along the line once WC lose the chip on their shoulder... He'll walk a year later and they'll get nothing otherwise..

Should get through..
Heard the same thing. Despite WCE making a lot of noise about 'absolutely not' trading him, and being a 'required player they could see playing for the Eagles for 6 years or more', he has reiterated to his manager that he absolutely does not want to be in a WCE jumper next year, and he wants to play for the Saints.

This coupled with the fact that his manager has apparently said St Kilda still want him and know it's going to cost more than Cripps, makes me more certain than ever that Mitch won't be convinced to stay at WC, and there will be a fair trade worked out in the end. I doubt WC are going to want to hold him there completely against his will.


SinCitySainter
Club Player
Posts: 997
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:39am
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272290Post SinCitySainter »

Is it time for us to throw our hands up and say OK we can't get him and turn to North and say how much for Hansen.


SaintSimmo
Club Player
Posts: 1684
Joined: Thu 11 Dec 2008 10:00pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272292Post SaintSimmo »

SinCitySainter wrote:Is it time for us to throw our hands up and say OK we can't get him and turn to North and say how much for Hansen.
Why would we turn our attention from a full back to a foward...and a crap one at that!

I would say if the Mitch Brown trade breaks down then we might look at Luke Delaney and maybe Cam Pedersen but there are question marks over Pedersen's attitude.


Sainter for life.
User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272294Post Con Gorozidis »

So we spend 24 on Cripps + develop him and we only get 38 back?

Sounds like my performance in picking stocks. Buy high - sell low!
A fast track to ruin!


SinCitySainter
Club Player
Posts: 997
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:39am
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272297Post SinCitySainter »

SaintSimmo wrote:
SinCitySainter wrote:Is it time for us to throw our hands up and say OK we can't get him and turn to North and say how much for Hansen.
Why would we turn our attention from a full back to a foward...and a crap one at that!

I would say if the Mitch Brown trade breaks down then we might look at Luke Delaney and maybe Cam Pedersen but there are question marks over Pedersen's attitude.
I thought Hansen was originally considered as a Key backman. If I am wrong then I stand corrected.
However, while I think Brown is a handy player particularly for us I can't see us getting him without selling the farm.
I don't think West Coast need Cripps, particularly now that they have secured Wellingham. So what else can we offer?


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272298Post Con Gorozidis »

Mitch Brown doesnt want to spend another year at East Freo - that is for sure.
But the Eagles can force him to if they want.


User avatar
SaintTom
Club Player
Posts: 390
Joined: Tue 20 Oct 2009 1:42pm
Location: Scandinavia

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272311Post SaintTom »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Mitch Brown doesnt want to spend another year at East Freo - that is for sure.
But the Eagles can force him to if they want.
Absolutely. Depends whether or not that really is in their best interests. Keep a player who does not want to be there? Probably not the best thing. Maybe they'll try to convince him to sign another contract next year? Very speculative.

Might end up being a case of a bird in the hand. Better to get a trade that can be negotiated with St Kilda this year then potentially losing him next year for less.


Old Mate
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5624
Joined: Wed 15 Jun 2011 7:06pm

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272313Post Old Mate »

I'm thinking if we really want Brown we'll have to pay overs. We seem desperate and I reckon WC know this and will try and force us to use a pick we don't want to. I hope we remain firm and don't offer too much and move on and look for an alternative.


sainter#4
Club Player
Posts: 402
Joined: Thu 29 Mar 2007 4:58pm

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272314Post sainter#4 »

new article re brown from his management..


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-c ... 6493034860

looks like we have offered 3 years and the centre half back position for him. this is a trade that excites me, lets fisher play half back and create.

and also, with his manager putting pressure on the eagles i think over the next 2 weeks the trade will be made.


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272330Post Con Gorozidis »

sainter#4 wrote:new article re brown from his management..


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-c ... 6493034860

looks like we have offered 3 years and the centre half back position for him. this is a trade that excites me, lets fisher play half back and create.

and also, with his manager putting pressure on the eagles i think over the next 2 weeks the trade will be made.
So what have we got to play with

Cripps + 34 for Brown And Stevens?

Seems fair.

Then we punt 23 on Hickey and get a later pick back.

We hold onto the BJ pick for a young gun and have 2 late 'hail marys' in the draft.


User avatar
sax
Club Player
Posts: 976
Joined: Tue 29 Nov 2005 10:19pm
Location: Barossa Valley
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272345Post sax »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
sainter#4 wrote:new article re brown from his management..


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-c ... 6493034860

looks like we have offered 3 years and the centre half back position for him. this is a trade that excites me, lets fisher play half back and create.

and also, with his manager putting pressure on the eagles i think over the next 2 weeks the trade will be made.
So what have we got to play with

Cripps + 34 for Brown And Stevens?

Seems fair.

Then we punt 23 on Hickey and get a later pick back.

We hold onto the BJ pick for a young gun and have 2 late 'hail marys' in the draft.
I wouldn't even mind if we had to chuck in a 3rd rounder to get it done!

By the way, ATM we have pick 24 not 23!

If GCS won't budge we trade Ray to Dees for Martin!


Foundation Social Club Member No. 296
SinCitySainter
Club Player
Posts: 997
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:39am
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272350Post SinCitySainter »

Do you really think WC want Cripps? I know he wants to go there but that is not the same.
They have just picked up Wellingham a quickish line breaker with good delivery skills.
Cripps is a similar player just with less runs on the board.
I think he is worth a lot more to us than to them and they will only pay accordingly.


lefty
Club Player
Posts: 1307
Joined: Tue 28 Sep 2004 8:11pm
Been thanked: 40 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272384Post lefty »

Con Gorozidis wrote: So what have we got to play with

Cripps + 34 for Brown And Stevens?

Seems fair.

Then we punt 24 on Hickey and get a later pick back.

We hold onto the BJ pick for a young gun and have 2 late 'hail marys' in the draft.
Yes, this sounds good to me....
If a team has a player that wants to leave, the club doesn't really have much options, contracted or not, a unhappy employee usually doesn't perform well or really care


User avatar
Sick Nal Danto
Club Player
Posts: 376
Joined: Wed 28 Sep 2011 3:00pm

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272390Post Sick Nal Danto »

We are in the better position, despite our need for a fullback

Eagles don't win by keeping a disgruntled player, that wants to move


Old Mate
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5624
Joined: Wed 15 Jun 2011 7:06pm

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272392Post Old Mate »

Rumour that we offered Cripps and pick 34 for Brown and pick 38, which WC rejected. I think the pricks are gunning for either the Goddard compo pick or pick 24. They are dreaming.


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272394Post plugger66 »

Sick Nal Danto wrote:We are in the better position, despite our need for a fullback

Eagles don't win by keeping a disgruntled player, that wants to move

O'Keefe from Sydney.


User avatar
busso mick
Club Player
Posts: 1212
Joined: Wed 17 Mar 2004 8:57pm
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272400Post busso mick »

plugger66 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:We are in the better position, despite our need for a fullback

Eagles don't win by keeping a disgruntled player, that wants to move

O'Keefe from Sydney.
Can I draw a long bow and predict a Norm Smith for Brown in 4 years time? :wink:


User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7934
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 548 times
Been thanked: 252 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272431Post bobmurray »

busso mick wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:We are in the better position, despite our need for a fullback

Eagles don't win by keeping a disgruntled player, that wants to move

O'Keefe from Sydney.
Can I draw a long bow and predict a Norm Smith for Brown in 4 years time? :wink:
That bow is soooooooooooooooo long i can't see the end of it..


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
Hemi Baxter
Club Player
Posts: 347
Joined: Mon 19 Sep 2011 5:22pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272469Post Hemi Baxter »

busso mick wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:We are in the better position, despite our need for a fullback

Eagles don't win by keeping a disgruntled player, that wants to move

O'Keefe from Sydney.
Can I draw a long bow and predict a Norm Smith for Brown in 4 years time? :wink:
Save time waiting and just shoot yourself in the foot. Have to agree with Old Mate above about getting overexcited. There is a reason Mitch Brown doesn't play regularly for WC after 5 seasons on the list. He is treacle slow and won't be getting any quicker. Pet whipping boy over the last couple of years for WC supporters.


User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Jamie Cripps-Mitch Brown? !!

Post: # 1272470Post dragit »

I hope we don't use our 2nd round pick to get Brown, I don't think he's that good… injury prone and struggling to crack it as their 3rd tall backmen.

Would rather chase Pederson or Thompson if west coat are going to be silly.


Post Reply