When would BJ have qualified for the veterans list?

[markp]

If we'd given him a four year deal would he have qualified in the third or fourth year?

[hotdish]

http://www.afl.com.au/development/aflex ... px#veteran


Under the Vet list rules, the player has to be aged 30 at September of the season listed AND have been listed for 10 years.

BJ was born May 1985 and next year is turning 28 (Year 1). So would not be eligible in 2014. Would be in 2015.

This wouldn't have fixed the problem - wasn't just about salary cap $$$ but setting a precedent to all players.

An interesting article - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/v ... 1ll89.html

[stinger]

"St Kilda coach Scott Watters has lashed out at Brendon Goddard, accusing the star player of making big money his priority in joining Essendon."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/g ... z286Mq4bZG



terribly disappointed in bj....

[markp]

http://www.afl.com.au/development/aflex ... px#veteran


Under the Vet list rules, the player has to be aged 30 at September of the season listed AND have been listed for 10 years.

BJ was born May 1985 and next year is turning 28 (Year 1). So would not be eligible in 2014. Would be in 2015.

This wouldn't have fixed the problem - wasn't just about salary cap $$$ but setting a precedent to all players.

An interesting article - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/v ... 1ll89.html

Veteran Players

Under AFL player rules, each club may nominate or list any number of what are called Veteran Player’s.

In order to be eligible for classification as a Veteran a player must have been the age of 30 as at September 30 in the relevant AFL season and be on the primary list of the AFL club for at least 10 years or in the case of Port Adelaide since the inception of the club.

http://www.afl.com.au/development/aflex ... px#veteran

If he debuted in 2003, and turns 30 in may of year 3 (2014), wouldn't that mean he'd be 30 as at sept 30 2014, and therefore eligible that year?

I would think that that's a free kick from the system, which should be reaped and exploited whenever possible.

That's $100k of his pay extra on our SC.... well, would've been.

[dragit]

Depends which veterans rule we choose, the old one was 2 players over 30 plus over 10 years on the list (half wage outside cap), the new rule is as many players as you wish that have been on the list for 10 years (100,000 off every player eligible)… So BJ would have fit into that seconed one

[jmac101]

Honestly I think it came down to a combination of money + our ability to get compensation. We have been middle of the road with BJ for last 2 years. If he plays out career with saints and then retires we get nothing for him. We let him go now and we get a pick for him.

As a medium size team in the free agency world I think that is going to be our modus operandi going forward. We can't afford to overpay. We need to take value when we can get it and let it go when it gets too expensive. It sucks but it's the byproduct of the era we are entering into. We need to adapt to a role and survive.

[markp]

Honestly I think it came down to a combination of money + our ability to get compensation. We have been middle of the road with BJ for last 2 years. If he plays out career with saints and then retires we get nothing for him. We let him go now and we get a pick for him.

As a medium size team in the free agency world I think that is going to be our modus operandi going forward. We can't afford to overpay. We need to take value when we can get it and let it go when it gets too expensive. It sucks but it's the byproduct of the era we are entering into. We need to adapt to a role and survive.

So we wanted to keep him or we wanted the compo pick? Cant really be both, can it?

It'a more than a shame to think we wont get to exploit the veterans list loophole/incentive... could've offered him $550k - 600k x 4, knowing year 3 and 4 would only cost us $450k - 500k of the SC.

[jimmy_slats]

get over it nothing is bringing him back lets move on and stop making fkn what if and why threads about Goodard!!! Tecnicaly they should be put in the Opposition & General Sports Discussion page anyway..

[markp]

get over it nothing is bringing him back lets move on and stop making fkn what if and why threads about Goodard!!! Tecnicaly they should be put in the Opposition & General Sports Discussion page anyway..

Or you could pull your head in?

It happened less then 24 hours ago... yeah, time to move on

[jimmy_slats]

sorry did you have a better time to move on?

[markp]

sorry did you have a better time to move on?

When I'm good and ready, champ.

[Dr Spaceman]

sorry did you have a better time to move on?

When I'm good and ready, champ.

Well let's not argue with each other about this

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12 - 2012 KEY DATES - EXCHANGE PROCESS AND NAB AFL DRAFT

Please find attached the key dates around the Player Rules for the exchange process and the 2012 NAB AFL Draft:

October 1 - Commencement of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency period.
October 4, 2pm – Time for all St Kilda fans to accept Goddard has gone and to “move on”.
October 5, 2pm - Nomination of Father-Son Eligible Players and Academy Bidding Players.
October 8, 10am - Father Son Eligible Players and Academy Players Bid Meeting.
October 8 - Commencement of Trade Period.
October 19, 2pm - Deadline for GWS Giants to pre-list balance of any uncontracted players under List Establishment rules.
October 19, 5pm - Close to Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
October 23, 5pm - Trade Incentive Rule (17 year-olds) Deadline for Trading.
October 26, 2pm - End of Trade Period.
October 26, 2.10pm -Trade Incentive (17 year-olds) Selection.
October 31, 2pm - List Lodgement One.
November 1 - Commencement to Delisted Player Free Agency Period.
November 13, 2pm - End to Delisted Player Free Agency Period.
November 13, 2pm - Out of Contract Listed Player Draft Nomination Deadline, New Player Draft Nomination Deadline.
November 13, 2pm - Deadline for Nomination of any use of 2012 GWS Giants Compensation Selections.
November 15, 2pm - List Lodgement Two.
November 16, 2pm - Delisted Player Draft Nomination Deadline, Non-Retained Rookies Draft Nomination Deadline, Nominated of Queensland Zone Priority Selections and Nomination of NSW/ACT Zone Priority Selections.
November 22 - NAB AFL Draft, Gold Coast Convention Centre.

[jimmy_slats]

hahahhahhaha funnest post all year... alright ill wait till then haha

[markp]

In keeping with the subject, I want an extra year.