Brownlow votes + age profile
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- Con Gorozidis
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Brownlow votes + age profile
So comparing us to the teams near us on the ladder and in brownlow vote totals - we are actually the worst off compared to freo and the blues.
for instance the dockers have 8 medium aged players in their top 10 and we only have 3.
the blues have 7 in that age group and the roos 8 or so also.
So we are still looking very top heavy in age. sure we will go for some kids this draft - but ill almost guarantee we go after some more players in the 22-26 yo age group. ill guarantee it. We are just so weak there.
n.b: yes i expect the usual blow-back comments such as "brownlow votes dont mean anything + what about geary + gwilt + stanley" etc but that doesnt change my argument.
19 Lenny Hayes - old
10 Nick Dal Santo - old
9 Nick Riewoldt - old
9 David Armitage - medium
6 Leigh Montagna - old
4 Brendon Goddard - old
3 Beau Wilkes - medium
3 Stephen Milne - old
2 Ahmed Saad - young
2 Justin Koschitzke - old
2 Sean Dempster - medium
2 Jason Blake - old
1 Jack Steven - young
1 Jason Gram - old
TOTAL 73 (9, 3, 2)
CARLTON
12 Chris Judd - old
10 Marc Murphy - medium
10 Brock McLean - old
9 Heath Scotland - old
6 Kade Simpson - old
3 Jarrad Waite - old
3 Matthew Kreuzer - medium
3 Shaun Hampson - medium
3 Bryce Gibbs - medium
2 Zach Tuohy - medium
2 David Ellard - young
2 Andrew Collins - young
2 Andrew Carrazzo - old
1 Chris Yarran - medium
1 Andrew Walker - old
1 Eddie Betts - medium
TOTAL 76 (7, 7, 2)
FREMANTLE
15 Matthew Pavlich - old
14 Nathan Fyfe - medium
12 David Mundy - old
9 Clancee Pearce - young
6 Aaron Sandilands - old
4 Stephen Hill - medium
3 Tendai Mzungu - medium
3 Paul Duffield - medium
3 Hayden Ballantyne - medium
2 Chris Mayne - medium
2 Matt de Boer - medium
1 Michael Johnson - old
1 Michael Barlow - medium
TOTAL 75 (4, 8, 1)
for instance the dockers have 8 medium aged players in their top 10 and we only have 3.
the blues have 7 in that age group and the roos 8 or so also.
So we are still looking very top heavy in age. sure we will go for some kids this draft - but ill almost guarantee we go after some more players in the 22-26 yo age group. ill guarantee it. We are just so weak there.
n.b: yes i expect the usual blow-back comments such as "brownlow votes dont mean anything + what about geary + gwilt + stanley" etc but that doesnt change my argument.
19 Lenny Hayes - old
10 Nick Dal Santo - old
9 Nick Riewoldt - old
9 David Armitage - medium
6 Leigh Montagna - old
4 Brendon Goddard - old
3 Beau Wilkes - medium
3 Stephen Milne - old
2 Ahmed Saad - young
2 Justin Koschitzke - old
2 Sean Dempster - medium
2 Jason Blake - old
1 Jack Steven - young
1 Jason Gram - old
TOTAL 73 (9, 3, 2)
CARLTON
12 Chris Judd - old
10 Marc Murphy - medium
10 Brock McLean - old
9 Heath Scotland - old
6 Kade Simpson - old
3 Jarrad Waite - old
3 Matthew Kreuzer - medium
3 Shaun Hampson - medium
3 Bryce Gibbs - medium
2 Zach Tuohy - medium
2 David Ellard - young
2 Andrew Collins - young
2 Andrew Carrazzo - old
1 Chris Yarran - medium
1 Andrew Walker - old
1 Eddie Betts - medium
TOTAL 76 (7, 7, 2)
FREMANTLE
15 Matthew Pavlich - old
14 Nathan Fyfe - medium
12 David Mundy - old
9 Clancee Pearce - young
6 Aaron Sandilands - old
4 Stephen Hill - medium
3 Tendai Mzungu - medium
3 Paul Duffield - medium
3 Hayden Ballantyne - medium
2 Chris Mayne - medium
2 Matt de Boer - medium
1 Michael Johnson - old
1 Michael Barlow - medium
TOTAL 75 (4, 8, 1)
Re: Brownlow votes + age profile
Goddard would be in the medium group. He only turned 27 a few months ago, I think people on here want him to be older than he really is though so it doesn't hurt as much if he leaves.
Age wise, he's approaching or perhaps not even at his peak which convention says is 27-29 for AFL footballers.
Age wise, he's approaching or perhaps not even at his peak which convention says is 27-29 for AFL footballers.
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Re: Brownlow votes + age profile
as usual people focus on the fringe/marginal issues.
ok well swap goddard and dempster if u like. it makes no difference.
hill = 22
fyfe = 21
doesnt really change the facts. pelchen will go for someone in 22-26yo old group to remedy this if he can IMHO.
ok well swap goddard and dempster if u like. it makes no difference.
hill = 22
fyfe = 21
doesnt really change the facts. pelchen will go for someone in 22-26yo old group to remedy this if he can IMHO.
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Re: Brownlow votes + age profile
quick look at bummers using the same method have a (1,8,1)
based on this formula bombers would be thinking if they cant win one in the next 2-3 years then this current crop will never win one.
it would therefore make sense to go after goddard. its now or never for these bombers. they have invested heavily in youth who are now hitting their peak age.
30 Jobe Watson - medium
14 Brent Stanton - medium
4 Michael Hurley - medium
4 Tom Bellchambers - medium
3 Leroy Jetta - medium
3 Dyson Heppell - young
2 Stewart Crameri - medium
1 Patrick Ryder - medium
1 Heath Hocking - medium
1 Dustin Fletcher - ancient
TOTAL 63
based on this formula bombers would be thinking if they cant win one in the next 2-3 years then this current crop will never win one.
it would therefore make sense to go after goddard. its now or never for these bombers. they have invested heavily in youth who are now hitting their peak age.
30 Jobe Watson - medium
14 Brent Stanton - medium
4 Michael Hurley - medium
4 Tom Bellchambers - medium
3 Leroy Jetta - medium
3 Dyson Heppell - young
2 Stewart Crameri - medium
1 Patrick Ryder - medium
1 Heath Hocking - medium
1 Dustin Fletcher - ancient
TOTAL 63
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Re: Brownlow votes + age profile
well based on this analysis Blues and Freo will be forces next year.
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Re: Brownlow votes + age profile
Pavlich can not improve, can he ? becasuse he is what makes the dockers go from 10th to 5th