Could today be the last time Goddard plays for Saints?

[defacto]

1 pick mate. no chance of 2 unless he goes to GWS

[Devilhead]

1 pick mate. no chance of 2 unless he goes to GWS

Why does it matter where he goes???

They use an AFL formula to decide compensatory picks so unless there is a special GWS insertion clause into the formula I cant see how where he goes matters as to what picks we get.

Taking into account he was a number 1 draft pick and probably in our top 3 or 4 paid players I would think there is an outside chance we might get 2 - that said his age might be a defining factor which might bring his value down a bit.

Either way its out of our control

[mad saint guy]

1 pick mate. no chance of 2 unless he goes to GWS

Why does it matter where he goes???

They use an AFL formula to decide compensatory picks so unless there is a special GWS insertion clause into the formula I cant see how where he goes matters as to what picks we get.

Taking into account he was a number 1 draft pick and probably in our top 3 or 4 paid players I would think there is an outside chance we might get 2 - that said his age might be a defining factor which might bring his value down a bit.

Either way its out of our control

Free agency rules are different to GWS uncontracted player access rules.

[Con Gorozidis]

I genuinely believe he would have liked to have stayed. But if he gets offered 4 x 700 = 2.8 mill compared with say 3 x 5= 1.5 m from us. He will go.
I will have no hard feelings. He gave a lot to us and tried his best. Not his fault if we cant pay him enough.
He will go. We get a first round pick. And Siposs takes over BJs role in the backline.
For what its worth - I reckon hes off to Freo. He knows/likes Ross .

[savatage]

I genuinely believe he would have liked to have stayed. But if he gets offered 4 x 700 = 2.8 mill compared with say 3 x 5= 1.5 m from us. He will go.
I will have no hard feelings. He gave a lot to us and tried his best. Not his fault if we cant pay him enough.
He will go. We get a first round pick. And Siposs takes over BJs role in the backline.
.

+1

[magnifisaint]

He looked happy in the rooms after the game. Not so sure he's leaving

[thejiggingsaint]

Listened to the guys on 774 talking about this topic and one bloke said that the Saints were now going to be moving away from players being in a position to dictate terms, and that Goddard will be offered what the club feel to be fair, and if this is not accepted then we part company. Could be part of a new strategy of building a stricter pay regime at St Kilda. I'd like to think BJ is going to stay with us, but really want this done and dusted one way or the other and lets get on with preparing for 2013.

[Old Mate]

Read something recently that explained how FA compenstation works. There are 5 categories or 'bands.'

Band 1 - First round pick
Band 2 - End of first round pick
Band 3 - Second round pick
Band 4 - End of second round pick
Band 5 - Third round pick

I'd hope we got at least the top compensation which I'm assuming would fall after our first pick, being pick 13. Also good to see at the very least you get a third round pick for losing a FA.

GWS taking players would be subject to the uncontracted player rule, not FA rule so we would get better compensation than if Goddard went as a FA to another club. Plugger has said that GWS are targeting Jackson Ferguson, it would be interesting to see what compensation we got for a rookie, probably bugger all.

[stkildathunda]

AFL has already come out and said likes of Buddy, Cloke, Swan, Goddard are all only worth One 1st Round pick through Free Agency. Also very important to keep in mind that if we secure another player via free agency our compensation for Goddard drops and you get the difference between how both players are rated. For example if we secured Chaplin from Port we'd probably only get end 2nd round or 3rd round pick for Goddard leaving.

[St Chris]

I think I've got to the point where id be more surprised if he stayed, and expect him to leave. That said, i'd be really happy to be proved wrong.

If he does depart, I really hope we take our first round pick and our 600k+ salary cap space and make it count. Don't let ourselves be victims of free agency, let's become this year's free agency winners and be better in 2013

[plugger66]

Read something recently that explained how FA compenstation works. There are 5 categories or 'bands.'

Band 1 - First round pick
Band 2 - End of first round pick
Band 3 - Second round pick
Band 4 - End of second round pick
Band 5 - Third round pick

I'd hope we got at least the top compensation which I'm assuming would fall after our first pick, being pick 13. Also good to see at the very least you get a third round pick for losing a FA.

GWS taking players would be subject to the uncontracted player rule, not FA rule so we would get better compensation than if Goddard went as a FA to another club. Plugger has said that GWS are targeting Jackson Ferguson, it would be interesting to see what compensation we got for a rookie, probably bugger all.

I doubt a rookie would ever come under free agancy.

[Old Mate]

Read something recently that explained how FA compenstation works. There are 5 categories or 'bands.'

Band 1 - First round pick
Band 2 - End of first round pick
Band 3 - Second round pick
Band 4 - End of second round pick
Band 5 - Third round pick

I'd hope we got at least the top compensation which I'm assuming would fall after our first pick, being pick 13. Also good to see at the very least you get a third round pick for losing a FA.

GWS taking players would be subject to the uncontracted player rule, not FA rule so we would get better compensation than if Goddard went as a FA to another club. Plugger has said that GWS are targeting Jackson Ferguson, it would be interesting to see what compensation we got for a rookie, probably bugger all.

I doubt a rookie would ever come under free agancy.

GWS would take Ferguson as an uncontraced player from us hence why we'd get compo.

[plugger66]

Read something recently that explained how FA compenstation works. There are 5 categories or 'bands.'

Band 1 - First round pick
Band 2 - End of first round pick
Band 3 - Second round pick
Band 4 - End of second round pick
Band 5 - Third round pick

I'd hope we got at least the top compensation which I'm assuming would fall after our first pick, being pick 13. Also good to see at the very least you get a third round pick for losing a FA.

GWS taking players would be subject to the uncontracted player rule, not FA rule so we would get better compensation than if Goddard went as a FA to another club. Plugger has said that GWS are targeting Jackson Ferguson, it would be interesting to see what compensation we got for a rookie, probably bugger all.

I doubt a rookie would ever come under free agancy.

GWS would take Ferguson as an uncontraced player from us hence why we'd get compo.

Sorry misread it. Thought you were talking free agency.

[magnifisaint]

I genuinely believe he would have liked to have stayed. But if he gets offered 4 x 700 = 2.8 mill compared with say 3 x 5= 1.5 m from us. He will go.
I will have no hard feelings. He gave a lot to us and tried his best. Not his fault if we cant pay him enough.
He will go. We get a first round pick. And Siposs takes over BJs role in the backline.
For what its worth - I reckon hes off to Freo. He knows/likes Ross .

He hasn't left yet!!

[matrix]

i was joking joffa

the freo and 4 year deal and going to play for ross the boss again seems to be the most fav topic of where bj is going
i was just going with the flow

i think he will stay

the person on here who i spoke to about bj should post what they have 'heard'
i'll leave it there

[saintspremiers]

He looked happy in the rooms after the game. Not so sure he's leaving

It's win-win for BJ. He leaves an makes a lot more money or stays for less and he's a hero. Has he accepted lower than market value contracts in the past??

[Teflon]

i was joking joffa

the freo and 4 year deal and going to play for ross the boss again seems to be the most fav topic of where bj is going
i was just going with the flow

i think he will stay

the person on here who i spoke to about bj should post what they have 'heard'
i'll leave it there

C'mon Matrix..... u can't leave us on the hook like that!!!

[matrix]

if he stays, it will be for loyalty and mates
if he goes its for the cash

and someone who said 250 was the diff seems to be correct, but not in the way they posted.
sorry
doesnt really add anything more does it lol

ill dob in then the poster has to post

K!!!!!!!
post what youd heard

[Cairnsman]

I am led to believe there is a Melbourne club very interested in BJ...Richmond.

[dragit]

I am led to believe there is a Melbourne club very interested in BJ...Richmond.

Who led you there Cairnsman?

[Teflon]

I am led to believe there is a Melbourne club very interested in BJ...Richmond.

They are so far linked to

Stealing Mark Williams
Knights from Adelaide and now Goddard

Ramping it up are the Tiges and they have elite midfield talent to back it up

Would we take a Goddard for their first Round pick at 9 I think.... I don't think that's to far off the mark... maybe a player as well ..(although wont be a gun..)

[saintly]

I genuinely believe he would have liked to have stayed. But if he gets offered 4 x 700 = 2.8 mill compared with say 3 x 5= 1.5 m from us. He will go.
I will have no hard feelings. He gave a lot to us and tried his best. Not his fault if we cant pay him enough.
He will go. We get a first round pick. And Siposs takes over BJs role in the backline.
For what its worth - I reckon hes off to Freo. He knows/likes Ross .

no, the issue is 4 or 5 X $1m

[dragit]

Would we take a Goddard for their first Round pick at 9 I think.... I don't think that's to far off the mark... maybe a player as well ..(although wont be a gun..)

Not sure why we keep suggesting that the club receiving Goddard will give up a cracker…

It will either be via free agency or the GWS start-up policy, we're not talking 'trading' here.

[plugger66]

I am led to believe there is a Melbourne club very interested in BJ...Richmond.

They are so far linked to

Stealing Mark Williams
Knights from Adelaide and now Goddard

Ramping it up are the Tiges and they have elite midfield talent to back it up

Would we take a Goddard for their first Round pick at 9 I think.... I don't think that's to far off the mark... maybe a player as well ..(although wont be a gun..)

Why would Richmond rade for BJ? I dont see the point.

[Cairnsman]

I am led to believe there is a Melbourne club very interested in BJ...Richmond.

They are so far linked to

Stealing Mark Williams
Knights from Adelaide and now Goddard

Ramping it up are the Tiges and they have elite midfield talent to back it up

Would we take a Goddard for their first Round pick at 9 I think.... I don't think that's to far off the mark... maybe a player as well ..(although wont be a gun..)

Why would Richmond rade for BJ? I dont see the point.

Could it be that he is keen on a flag and Richmond are a chance within the next few years and have room in their salary cap. Keeps him in Melbourne too.