How Many Players are gone !

[mr six o'clock]

With the recent resignings How many players do we have out of contract ?

and How many are likely to be gone next year ?

[borderbarry]

About ten. plus maybe a couple of rookies. Gone that is. I have no idea who is our of contract

[SainterK]

Not looking good for...

Peake
Raph
Polo

I think Jones and Ray are contracted to the end of 2013, Gram and Kosi reportedly have clauses to they can action in their contract.

[mr six o'clock]

Not looking good for...

Peake
Raph
Polo

I think Jones and Ray are contracted to the end of 2013, Gram and Kosi reportedly have clauses to they can action in their contract.

Is this why we've got no money in the salary cap ! if we cut all the dead wood we'll have to pay them out !

[Ralphy]

Peake
Raph
Polo
Goddard (whether we like to admit it or not is gone)
Winmar
Blake

[SainterK]

Forgot about Blake, not looking good for him...said he wanted to play on, but pretty sure he would of signed any offer on the table?

So what would they be on combined, I've got no idea?

Peake $130K
Raph $185K
Polo $120K
Blake $200K

I'm probably way off, but about $600ish off the salary cap?

[dcstkfc]

Not looking good for...

Peake
Raph
Polo

I think Jones and Ray are contracted to the end of 2013, Gram and Kosi reportedly have clauses to they can action in their contract.

This seems right.

Blake may go too, depends on how many picks we want in deep draft.

Crocker is under the pump a bit, similar to Blake depends on how many picks we want. Hasn't done much. Could be a downgrade to rookie like Brad Howard/Leigh Fisher/McQualter.

Winmar still has a year on contract so will be right.

BJ probably gone, but we will get 2 comp. picks for him.

Rookies:

Archer- gone, done little in yr 3.
Andreoli- 90% gone, hasn't done enough to warrant third year.
Staley- Might be given another year due to lack of height on list but could just as easily be gone due to promise of other rookies compared to him.
Shenton- seemed most likely in NAB Cup but seems to have trailed right off.
Curren and Ferg will be given at least another rookie year
Dunell seems a likely promotion, or at least rookie again.
Minchington looks to have done enough for a second year.

[plugger66]

Dont think we will get to compensation picks for BJ unless he goes to GWS which looks unlikely.

[Stillwaiting]

Dont think we will get to compensation picks for BJ unless he goes to GWS which looks unlikely.

If BJ goes via free agency I thought we got a compensation using some formula the afl keeps secret

[Superstar]

Dont think we will get to compensation picks for BJ unless he goes to GWS which looks unlikely.

If BJ goes via free agency I thought we got a compensation using some formula the afl keeps secret

Under free agency you still get compo but it's not a generous. Best result is a first round pick. I believe you still have five years to use it, but I could be wrong on that.

[plugger66]

Dont think we will get to compensation picks for BJ unless he goes to GWS which looks unlikely.

If BJ goes via free agency I thought we got a compensation using some formula the afl keeps secret

Under free agency you still get compo but it's not a generous. Best result is a first round pick. I believe you still have five years to use it, but I could be wrong on that.

Sorry that should have been we dont get two not to. We may get a first rounder but I thought you had to use it straight away.

[8856brother]

Peake
Raph
Polo
Goddard (whether we like to admit it or not is gone)
Winmar
Blake

What is your source Ralphy Boy?

Why is he gone? Where is he going? And why are you the only one who knows?

He may well go. But don't state it as fact if you don't know. And if you do know, fill us all in please.

[SaintPav]

Peake
Raph
Polo
Goddard (whether we like to admit it or not is gone)
Winmar
Blake

What is your source Ralphy Boy?

Why is he gone? Where is he going? And why are you the only one who knows?

He may well go. But don't state it as fact if you don't know. And if you do know, fill us all in please.

People only speculating because there's a reported offer and he hasn't signed. I wouldn't write him off just yet...but until he signs...

[8856brother]

Peake
Raph
Polo
Goddard (whether we like to admit it or not is gone)
Winmar
Blake

What is your source Ralphy Boy?

Why is he gone? Where is he going? And why are you the only one who knows?

He may well go. But don't state it as fact if you don't know. And if you do know, fill us all in please.

People only speculating because there's a reported offer and he hasn't signed. I wouldn't write him off just yet...but until he signs...

Agree Pav. But I don't think him leaving is a 100% done deal as Ralphy suggests.

[PJ]

I reckon
Pretty much certain

Polo
Peake
Clarke
Crocker
Blake

Contracted but shoud go

Winmar
Jonesy
Kosi

Goddard?? - we should never sign a player for 4 years, hope this isn't a consideration, $550k max

[felix]

Blakey should now if he is done by now , he surely would have been told by watters or he knows personally he can't go one more . Given that nothing has been said he might play on .. Surely he would have announced his retirement by now and surely the club wouldn't delist him without some sort of prior warning . You cant sack blake just like that you have to treat your warhorses with respect or there is no heart and soul at the saints

[Teflon]

FFS surely Blake retires????????

[felix]

He would have announced it by now like most players or otherwise he will be sacked one or the 2 . Surely his last game would have been announced by now . I reckon he's going one more.

[Teflon]

He would have announced it by now like most players or otherwise he will be sacked one or the 2 . Surely his last game would have been announced by now . I reckon he's going one more.

Not sure I see the point in that.

IF as Watters has said we MUST not should MUST recruit a decent tall defender I think we have enough other backs to cover Blake.....even without that tall defender......Id still leave Blake out.

[The Redeemer]

He would have announced it by now like most players or otherwise he will be sacked one or the 2 . Surely his last game would have been announced by now . I reckon he's going one more.

Not sure I see the point in that.

IF as Watters has said we MUST not should MUST recruit a decent tall defender I think we have enough other backs to cover Blake.....even without that tall defender......Id still leave Blake out.

Just recruit a tall defender.

I know it is much easier for me to say that typing into an internet forum however sheesh just do it.

[felix]

Yeah I agree with you we need to look beyond the blake but thought it was strange that we haven't heard that he is going to retire , wouldn't he know by now ?
I just presumed he would get a farewell game and it would be announced. He may just slide off into footy never never land.
.

[saintkellerm]

Maybe he will do it tomorrow or after the game, he may have told the group already and does not want a big deal. Who knows I am only guessing. Blakey is not one for a big fanfare IMHO.

[footynut]

Well it seems really quite simple
Raph
Crocker
Blake
Peake
Polo
can all wave good bye

So can at least 3 or our rookies
Shenton (r)
Archer (r)
Andreoli (r)

And then we have at least 5 players who we should be trying to trade
Koschitzke
Jones
Gram
Schneider
Winmar

This would give us at least 5 picks in the main draft assumeing that we dont promote any of our current rookies.
Issues arises when you look at our current rookies, because ferguson, Dunell & Curren have all put forward a serious case to be promoted. Which only leaves us with 3 picks.

[Watts the Buzz]

Blakey should now if he is done by now , he surely would have been told by watters or he knows personally he can't go one more . Given that nothing has been said he might play on .. Surely he would have announced his retirement by now and surely the club wouldn't delist him without some sort of prior warning . You cant sack blake just like that you have to treat your warhorses with respect or there is no heart and soul at the saints

Agreed...Just look at what Carlton did today in getting rid of Ratten.....unceremoniously dumping one of your favourite sons like that can really bring a club down. Blakey is the ultimate team man and he'll know when he starts to become a liability....hopefully we let him go on his own terms.

[fugazi]

Blake has had an excellent year IMO, injuries aside, was one of our best in first half of the year