Goddard and saints going to Free agency to decide his value

[Thinline]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

[plugger66]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

Well the facts are he probably wont finish top 5 in the B&F for the second year in a row. He is a receiving HBF who is now not able to play that role because clubs wont let him. We won 12 games without Lenny last year, I reckon we could go just as well without BJ. Anyway the last thing the club should do is pay overs to keep him.

[dragit]

I get the feeling that the club has asked Brendon to make an unofficial decision a week or so ago… so that they can move on with signing up the other un-contracted players… Maybe he has said that he is leaving & that is why we have suddenly seen 5 players sign up in the past 2 days.

[mullet]

I get the feeling that the club has asked Brendon to make an unofficial decision a week or so ago… so that they can move on with signing up the other un-contracted players… Maybe he has said that he is leaving & that is why we have suddenly seen 5 players sign up in the past 2 days.

I thought the same, and he isnt going to announce he is going if he still has 1 game to play as he may cop it from some barrackers

[Thinline]

I get the feeling that the club has asked Brendon to make an unofficial decision a week or so ago… so that they can move on with signing up the other un-contracted players… Maybe he has said that he is leaving & that is why we have suddenly seen 5 players sign up in the past 2 days.

I thought the same, and he isnt going to announce he is going if he still has 1 game to play as he may cop it from some barrackers

If he's leaving, he shouldn't be picked.

[Ralphy]

I get the feeling that the club has asked Brendon to make an unofficial decision a week or so ago… so that they can move on with signing up the other un-contracted players… Maybe he has said that he is leaving & that is why we have suddenly seen 5 players sign up in the past 2 days.

I thought the same, and he isnt going to announce he is going if he still has 1 game to play as he may cop it from some barrackers

If he's leaving, he shouldn't be picked.

Completely agree.

[Teflon]

I get the feeling that the club has asked Brendon to make an unofficial decision a week or so ago… so that they can move on with signing up the other un-contracted players… Maybe he has said that he is leaving & that is why we have suddenly seen 5 players sign up in the past 2 days.

Not convinced Watters would publicly saying how confident he is that Goddards staying if that were true

[Mr Magic]

Is he a 'restricted' free agent?
If so, does that mean we have the opportunity to match any offer he receives from another club?

If that is the case and given that we probably will not be in the salary cap position to match what other clubs can/may offer, then I think the Club should announce the size of the offer they couldn't match.
Let the Saints supporters know how much other club{s} offered BJ.
Let them (the other clubs) explain how they can fit him in their salary cap.
Let them explain to their other 'stars' why he is gretting what they've offered him whilst they are getting what they're getting.

If we have to accept that he is going to be lost to us then we might as well 'fire a shot' at the Club(s) who've upped his salary expectations. Why let them recruit him without any 'heat' (other than GWS or the Suns)?
We might as well cause some consternation for whomever he goes to and publicly acknowledging what they've offered him to entice him away from us may well cause them some 'issues'.

[plugger66]

Is he a 'restricted' free agent?
If so, does that mean we have the opportunity to match any offer he receives from another club?

If that is the case and given that we probably will not be in the salary cap position to match what other clubs can/may offer, then I think the Club should announce the size of the offer they couldn't match.
Let the Saints supporters know how much other club{s} offered BJ.
Let them (the other clubs) explain how they can fit him in their salary cap.
Let them explain to their other 'stars' why he is gretting what they've offered him whilst they are getting what they're getting.

If we have to accept that he is going to be lost to us then we might as well 'fire a shot' at the Club(s) who've upped his salary expectations. Why let them recruit him without any 'heat' (other than GWS or the Suns)?
We might as well cause some consternation for whomever he goes to and publicly acknowledging what they've offered him to entice him away from us may well cause them some 'issues'.

I would hope they arent allowed or if they are I hope the club are not that stupid unless of course you never want to get a free Agent or a trade ever again at our club.

[SainterK]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

+1

[tweedaletomanning]

How come the hawks seem to keep all their stars.?

Better list manager?

[MCG-Unit]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

This right there

[tweedaletomanning]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

1. Or it just means the club has no aspirations in winning the flag for the next 3-5 years

2. Incompetent list manager/ admin?

[SainterK]

Goddard is an out and out gun whose disposal and poise is as good as anyones across the AFL.

His departure, if it happens (and I think it will) would/will be an unparalleled friggin' disaster IMO.

Anyone who's caging it differently is featherbedding the bare facts.

1. Or it just means the club has no aspirations in winning the flag for the next 3-5 years

2. Incompetent list manager/ admin?

3. Chris Pelchen?

[Dr Spaceman]

I love how when Goddard says something like "I want to stay at St Kilda" some people automatically refer to Ablett and Scully etc. And based on those guys actions, "I want to stay at St Kilda" means he's going.

BUT

If Goddard has decided to remain where he is he'd also be saying something like "I want to stay at St Kilda".

Reality is that none of us know.

[matrix]

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anywhere

[Teflon]

not

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anywhere

Very confident Matrix..... source?

[Old Mate]

If he leaves under free agency rules do we know what sort of compensation we will get? I keep hearing stuff like we would get only one pick which would likely be at the end of the first round. With Melb and WB's compo picks that would mean we would likely get around pick 21 for losing a gun. I hope that's not the case. Didn't Freo get more for Palmer??? Not free agency but so what.

[WinnersOnly]

The longer this goes on the less likely he is to stay IMO!

Obviously the Saints have put the best offer to him which they rightly dont intend to change and this is obviously not in the ball park of offers from other club/s. As it has gone on so long the coach and other players have hit the media attempting to persuade him to stay. IMO if he was going to stay he would have signed to get it out of the way - he is obvioulsy agonising about leaving (taking the huge offer) which is causing him the heart ache.

If money means that much to him then he should go as he would be staying at the Saints for the wrong reasons!

[Ralphy]

The longer this goes on the less likely he is to stay IMO!

Obviously the Saints have put the best offer to him which they rightly dont intend to change and this is obviously not in the ball park of offers from other club/s. As it has gone on so long the coach and other players have hit the media attempting to persuade him to stay. IMO if he was going to stay he would have signed to get it out of the way - he is obvioulsy agonising about leaving (taking the huge offer) which is causing him the heart ache.

If money means that much to him then he should go as he would be staying at the Saints for the wrong reasons!

about time someone on this forum has brains and thinks rationally.

[bergholt]

Obviously the Saints have put the best offer to him which they rightly dont intend to change...

obviously? why? if they gave their best offer up front then they've failed basic negotiation. always leave something in the bank so that you can actually find a middle ground. starting with a final offer is stupid.

[saintly]

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Very confident Matrix..... source?

i think Freo will have him for over $1m per year.

[plugger66]

The longer this goes on the less likely he is to stay IMO!

Obviously the Saints have put the best offer to him which they rightly dont intend to change and this is obviously not in the ball park of offers from other club/s. As it has gone on so long the coach and other players have hit the media attempting to persuade him to stay. IMO if he was going to stay he would have signed to get it out of the way - he is obvioulsy agonising about leaving (taking the huge offer) which is causing him the heart ache.

If money means that much to him then he should go as he would be staying at the Saints for the wrong reasons!

Dont get that last line at all.

[Teflon]

not

going



anywhere

Very confident Matrix..... source?

i think Freo will have him for over $1m per year.

For that he's all theirs

[Ralphy]

sure Trade barlow and there first rd pick for him