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felix wrote:Here lies the problem ..your a fn homo there for your somehow bad or disgusting. Homosexuals have been bashed, murdered, they have suicided been persecuted, ostrisised , punished had electric shock treatment to cure their homosexual disease etc etc because they are gay . Gay people have fought long and hard for acceptance many have suffered along the way not unlike african americans .The western world have been trying to break down these discriminatory attitudes towards gays including the afl .. So I think that's why Milney is being looked at ...there is a bigger picture here.
I'm not sure why calling someone a homo is an issue?
How is that discriminatory?
I must be old fashioned or out of the loop, but calling someone a rapist imo is alot more insulting, yet that is allowed apparently.
It's gotta be all or nothing, ban swearing in general or turn the mikes off.
Cairnsman wrote:God bothering do-gooders are wrecking the game. They are just words. We have bread a generation of over sensitive nancy boys. For crying out loud it's a contact sport and the two players in question spend every weekend playing a brutal sport that has the potential to land you in hospital at any given contest and we have to spend thousands of dollars on an investigation into who said what to who. It's a joke and we need to go back to teaching the sticks and stones approach.
Yep the world has gone soft for sure. Just gives me the absolute s***s. EVERY single week Milne gets called a rapist and thats ok, someone tell me whats the difference?
Take this as gospel as its straight from the horses mouth. Milne was asked to go to mediation with Harry O. Milne was more than happy to do so. Milne was told he was not allowed to release to the public what he called Harry O which was HOMO. Milne refused and said that if he didnt he would be labelled a racist if the media and public werent to know the truth. Collingwood came back and said it must be kept in house and would Milne reconsider his stance. Again Milne said he wouldnt as he wasnt prepared to take the added heat that would generate. Collingwood then withdrew the complaint.
CURLY wrote:Take this as gospel as its straight from the horses mouth. Milne was asked to go to mediation with Harry O. Milne was more than happy to do so. Milne was told he was not allowed to release to the public what he called Harry O which was HOMO. Milne refused and said that if he didnt he would be labelled a racist if the media and public werent to know the truth. Collingwood came back and said it must be kept in house and would Milne reconsider his stance. Again Milne said he wouldnt as he wasnt prepared to take the added heat that would generate. Collingwood then withdrew the complaint.
Clearly this is a deflection. Perhaps to take heat off the awful umpiring, maybe to take heat off Swan's night out. Either way it's a farce. Much worse is said on a footy field, it's laughable to think they would single out this one incident. Ulterior motives at play here.
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Stephen Milne sanctioned by St Kilda for breach of Players' Code of Conduct & Policy on Discrimination & Vilification http://ow.ly/cQDMp
That is PATHETIC. It clearly was not discrimination or vilification. It was CLEARLY a sledge. Not a brilliant one, but none-the-less it was just a sledge. Very disappointed by the football club. For once why don't they stand up for their players, stand up to the AFL. This is very poor form.
CURLY wrote:Take this as gospel as its straight from the horses mouth. Milne was asked to go to mediation with Harry O. Milne was more than happy to do so. Milne was told he was not allowed to release to the public what he called Harry O which was HOMO. Milne refused and said that if he didnt he would be labelled a racist if the media and public werent to know the truth. Collingwood came back and said it must be kept in house and would Milne reconsider his stance. Again Milne said he wouldnt as he wasnt prepared to take the added heat that would generate. Collingwood then withdrew the complaint.
so the ump took it further? or
afl took it further?
hence the investigation?
Collingwood took at further but demanded Milne play to there rules and not release what he called Harry. Milne refused twice and mediation didnt take place. Collingwood withdrew there complaint.
Someone with a Bigfooty account please post the truth.
I thought it was despicable that the club didn't take it further, to court or whatever other avenue of appeal was available, when Baker got rubbed out for God knows how long based on no footage. Or was it "attempting to strike"? I've lost track of the suspensions.
But to fine Stephen Milne over this - to punish one of our own. Over a media beat-up (witchhunt?). That is terrible. I'm so disappointed that just once the club didn't take a stand. Why isn't the club supporting its players?
battye wrote:I thought it was despicable that the club didn't take it further, to court or whatever other avenue of appeal was available, when Baker got rubbed out for God knows how long based on no footage. Or was it "attempting to strike"? I've lost track of the suspensions.
But to fine Stephen Milne over this - to punish one of our own. Over a media beat-up (witchhunt?). That is terrible. I'm so disappointed that just once the club didn't take a stand. Why isn't the club supporting its players?
Maybe the club was bent over by the AFL's investigation and pretty much required to fine Milne if that makes sense?
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CURLY wrote:Take this as gospel as its straight from the horses mouth. Milne was asked to go to mediation with Harry O. Milne was more than happy to do so. Milne was told he was not allowed to release to the public what he called Harry O which was HOMO. Milne refused and said that if he didnt he would be labelled a racist if the media and public werent to know the truth. Collingwood came back and said it must be kept in house and would Milne reconsider his stance. Again Milne said he wouldnt as he wasnt prepared to take the added heat that would generate. Collingwood then withdrew the complaint.
so the ump took it further? or
afl took it further?
hence the investigation?
Collingwood took at further but demanded Milne play to there rules and not release what he called Harry. Milne refused twice and mediation didnt take place. Collingwood withdrew there complaint.
Someone with a Bigfooty account please post the truth.
why did Harry want mediation? Was he offended?
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battye wrote:I thought it was despicable that the club didn't take it further, to court or whatever other avenue of appeal was available, when Baker got rubbed out for God knows how long based on no footage. Or was it "attempting to strike"? I've lost track of the suspensions.
But to fine Stephen Milne over this - to punish one of our own. Over a media beat-up (witchhunt?). That is terrible. I'm so disappointed that just once the club didn't take a stand. Why isn't the club supporting its players?
Maybe the club was bent over by the AFL's investigation and pretty much required to fine Milne if that makes sense?
It is totally wrong, however we were probably boxed in a bit.
Unfortunately although the "crime" doesn't fit the punishment, it's not the sort of thing that you'd wanna take on with the AFL.
As harmless as it probably was, and as unfazed as O'Brien seems to be, a St Kilda attack on the AFL would simply be portrayed by the media as "Saints fight for the right to use homophobic taunts".
No matter how untrue that is, it would nonetheless be a public relations disaster in these times of struggling sponsorship and membership.
It grates but we just have to suck it up. We have no other choice
dragit wrote:Why were collingwood asking for the details not to be shared?
Is it because Harry was using derogatory language too?
Why did they initiate this at all? Very, very odd after the good run they had with Margetts on the night.
Its obvious why. Collingwood wanted Milne to be seen as the bad guy and leave it up to the media and publics imagination as to what he called Harry which would have been a racist remark. If Milne told them what he called Harry the only way Harry could say he was truley offended was if it was true. Harry was adament this had to kept in house.
Milney ought to say enough ! He has always said what is said on the field , stays on the field .
Its time for him to change.
Everytime he hears a player or section of the crowd use the R word , he should report it to the umpires and Afl !
He should also drop the use of the F , the C and the P,F,H.
