Harry O'brien decision incorrect - AFL

[Mrs_Seaford_Saint]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Would have been a draw - unless we could have kicked something in the last 15 sec or so from a center clearance

[Cairnsman]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Would have been a draw - unless we could have kicked something in the last 15 sec or so from a center clearance

Your assuming that the goal was a gimme. All sorts of scenarios could have played out after that incident and a goal could have been the least likely.

[Teflon]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Wel that's the point isn't it?

Free not paid - no one knows who wins
Free paid - game over loss assured.

Any chance we had to find out was taken away

[Saint_Ash]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

No such thing as a certainty, but with only 30 odd seconds left on the clock it would have probably resulted in a draw.

[Cairnsman]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Wel that's the point isn't it?

Free not paid - no one knows who wins
Free paid - game over loss assured.

Any chance we had to find out was taken away

That makes more sense than people saying it would have been a certain goal if the free wasn't paid.

[dragit]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Wel that's the point isn't it?

Free not paid - no one knows who wins
Free paid - game over loss assured.

Any chance we had to find out was taken away

That makes more sense than people saying it would have been a certain goal if the free wasn't paid.

You obviously haven't seen it Cairnsman,
Armitage had the ball in hand, 12 meters out directly in front, 3 metres clear, no-one in front of him.
It was a certain goal, absolutely no doubt.
The only thing we don't know is what would have happened after a centre bounce, a possible long kick forward for either team?

[Cairnsman]

Wel that's the point isn't it?

Free not paid - no one knows who wins
Free paid - game over loss assured.

Any chance we had to find out was taken away

That makes more sense than people saying it would have been a certain goal if the free wasn't paid.

You obviously haven't seen it Cairnsman,
Armitage had the ball in hand, 12 meters out directly in front, 3 metres clear, no-one in front of him.
It was a certain goal, absolutely no doubt.
The only thing we don't know is what would have happened after a centre bounce, a possible long kick forward for either team?

I've watched it a hundred times over I reckon trying to work it out and one conclusion is that Thomas was in a position to pressure or even initiate contact to Armos right side but didn't because the whistle had stopped. So I'm not so sure Armo was a gimme for the goal had the whistle not been blown.

[perfectionist]

So I'm not so sure Armo was a gimme for the goal had the whistle not been blown.

I suppose there might have been an invasion from Mars in the interim.

[dragit]

I've watched it a hundred times over I reckon trying to work it out and one conclusion is that Thomas was in a position to pressure or even initiate contact to Armos right side but didn't because the whistle had stopped. So I'm not so sure Armo was a gimme for the goal had the whistle not been blown.

Armitage, Milne, Goddard, Gram, Ray & Steven against Thomas.

Did you hear the commentators?

"They would have kicked a goal"

"StKilda were out, no-one between them and the goal there…"

Only a trolling imbecile would argue that we might not have kicked a goal.

Go figure.

[Mrs_Seaford_Saint]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

Would have been a draw - unless we could have kicked something in the last 15 sec or so from a center clearance

Your assuming that the goal was a gimme. All sorts of scenarios could have played out after that incident and a goal could have been the least likely.

I would have kicked a goal with my left foot with the space that was available - but we lost and we move on

[Cairnsman]

I've watched it a hundred times over I reckon trying to work it out and one conclusion is that Thomas was in a position to pressure or even initiate contact to Armos right side but didn't because the whistle had stopped. So I'm not so sure Armo was a gimme for the goal had the whistle not been blown.

Armitage, Milne, Goddard, Gram, Ray & Steven against Thomas.

Did you hear the commentators?

"They would have kicked a goal"

"StKilda were out, no-one between them and the goal there…"

Only a trolling imbecile would argue that we might not have kicked a goal.

Go figure.

From the replay it looks like Thomas is only a step or two away from being directly in front of Armo's run into goal and had the whistle not gone then he would have certainly pressured Armo if not even made contact. Tell me I'm wrong.

[dragit]

I've watched it a hundred times over I reckon trying to work it out and one conclusion is that Thomas was in a position to pressure or even initiate contact to Armos right side but didn't because the whistle had stopped. So I'm not so sure Armo was a gimme for the goal had the whistle not been blown.

Armitage, Milne, Goddard, Gram, Ray & Steven against Thomas.

Did you hear the commentators?

"They would have kicked a goal"

"StKilda were out, no-one between them and the goal there…"

Only a trolling imbecile would argue that we might not have kicked a goal.

Go figure.

From the replay it looks like Thomas is only a step or two away from being directly in front of Armo's run into goal and had the whistle not gone then he would have certainly pressured Armo if not even made contact. Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

[bergholt]

From the replay it looks like Thomas is only a step or two away from being directly in front of Armo's run into goal and had the whistle not gone then he would have certainly pressured Armo if not even made contact. Tell me I'm wrong.

i think you're probably wrong:

http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/?rou ... ality=high

four saints are around the ball - goddard, armo, milne, gram - with only two pies in the picture; thomas, and o'brien on his back. absolutely not a guaranteed goal but gut feel says we would have kicked it.

but whatever, we weren't good enough.

[Dr Spaceman]

From the replay it looks like Thomas is only a step or two away from being directly in front of Armo's run into goal and had the whistle not gone then he would have certainly pressured Armo if not even made contact. Tell me I'm wrong.

i think you're probably wrong:

http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/?rou ... ality=high

four saints are around the ball - goddard, armo, milne, gram - with only two pies in the picture; thomas, and o'brien on his back. absolutely not a guaranteed goal but gut feel says we would have kicked it.

but whatever, we weren't good enough.

This argument will just go on and on and on.

Can someone please recontrsuct the whole play with Lego so we can put it to bed?

[Cairnsman]

From the replay it looks like Thomas is only a step or two away from being directly in front of Armo's run into goal and had the whistle not gone then he would have certainly pressured Armo if not even made contact. Tell me I'm wrong.

i think you're probably wrong:

http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/?rou ... ality=high

four saints are around the ball - goddard, armo, milne, gram - with only two pies in the picture; thomas, and o'brien on his back. absolutely not a guaranteed goal but gut feel says we would have kicked it.

but whatever, we weren't good enough.

There were other players that BJ could have gone to but but he chose Armo and if you watch the replay he has to really stretch out his right arm to collect the ball but by that stage he was already slowing down because the whistle had blown. But had the whistle not blown then he would have been running at full tilt and in a pressure situation he may not have received the ball cleanly which could have given Thomas even more time to get in front of him. I'm not convinced that it was a gimme and yes we weren't good enough. It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

[Thinline]

Am I misssing something. So if the free hadn't been paid it sounds like from all the carry-on that we would have certainly won the match.

I'm pretty sure the 'carry on' stems from the unusual circumstances of an incorrect decision legitimately determining the result of the game. Multiple Saints near ball, Armo half-hearted at pill on account of whistle.

Regardless of importance to St K in terms of ladder position, it's an extraordinary thing to have occur.

And not just a little shitty.

[dragit]

There were other players that BJ could have gone to but but he chose Armo and if you watch the replay he has to really stretch out his right arm to collect the ball but by that stage he was already slowing down because the whistle had blown. But had the whistle not blown then he would have been running at full tilt and in a pressure situation he may not have received the ball cleanly which could have given Thomas even more time to get in front of him. I'm not convinced that it was a gimme and yes we weren't good enough. It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

5 on 1 heading into the goalsquare… how hard is it for you imagine that a goal was more likely than not?
You did pick Collingwood by 85 points and were also sure we would finish in the bottom 4, so it's fair to say that you have pretty little faith and absolutely no idea in general… just sayn.

[bergholt]

It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

100% agreement on that point.

[dragit]

It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

100% agreement on that point.

That is true, however Collingwood may host a home final as a result. I'm sure Adelaide and Sydney would care if that decision means playing Collingwood at the MCG in round 1 of the finals instead of at home.

[Cairnsman]

There were other players that BJ could have gone to but but he chose Armo and if you watch the replay he has to really stretch out his right arm to collect the ball but by that stage he was already slowing down because the whistle had blown. But had the whistle not blown then he would have been running at full tilt and in a pressure situation he may not have received the ball cleanly which could have given Thomas even more time to get in front of him. I'm not convinced that it was a gimme and yes we weren't good enough. It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

5 on 1 heading into the goalsquare… how hard is it for you imagine that a goal was more likely than not?
You did pick Collingwood by 85 points and were also sure we would finish in the bottom 4, so it's fair to say that you have pretty little faith and absolutely no idea in general… just sayn.

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

[dragit]

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

I think you're on your own here knob-jacket, every commentator on the night said it was going to be a certain goal, the ten threads and 1000 replies on here would suggest that most people agree…

Keep wishing for us to fail though, maybe one day you can revel in the glory of us being a bottom 4 side again…

[Thinline]

There were other players that BJ could have gone to but but he chose Armo and if you watch the replay he has to really stretch out his right arm to collect the ball but by that stage he was already slowing down because the whistle had blown. But had the whistle not blown then he would have been running at full tilt and in a pressure situation he may not have received the ball cleanly which could have given Thomas even more time to get in front of him. I'm not convinced that it was a gimme and yes we weren't good enough. It's very doubtful that we are going to miss out on the finals because of that one incident. Just sayin.

5 on 1 heading into the goalsquare… how hard is it for you imagine that a goal was more likely than not?
You did pick Collingwood by 85 points and were also sure we would finish in the bottom 4, so it's fair to say that you have pretty little faith and absolutely no idea in general… just sayn.

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

It is also possible that the crowd in the Southern Stand may have farted simultaneously and in doing so disturbed Armo's ball drop to the extent that the ball ultimately skewed off his boot and skidded through for a useless point.

[Cairnsman]

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

I think you're on your own here knob-jacket, every commentator on the night said it was going to be a certain goal, the ten threads and 1000 replies on here would suggest that most people agree…

Keep wishing for us to fail though, maybe one day you can revel in the glory of us being a bottom 4 side again…

Well if the commentators said it was a certain goal then that settles it. "Knob-jacket" How old are you.

[dragit]

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

I think you're on your own here knob-jacket, every commentator on the night said it was going to be a certain goal, the ten threads and 1000 replies on here would suggest that most people agree…

Keep wishing for us to fail though, maybe one day you can revel in the glory of us being a bottom 4 side again…

Well if the commentators said it was a certain goal then that settles it. "Knob-jacket" How old are you.

'princess' - which grade were you in when you were kicked out of school?

[Cairnsman]

5 on 1 heading into the goalsquare… how hard is it for you imagine that a goal was more likely than not?
You did pick Collingwood by 85 points and were also sure we would finish in the bottom 4, so it's fair to say that you have pretty little faith and absolutely no idea in general… just sayn.

Watch the replay again. BJ fed off the hand ball to Armo. I'm just pointing out that Armo was possibly covered by Thomas or even worse could have missed the pill altoghether. If you dry the tears from your eyes princess and watch the replay objectively you might get it.

It is also possible that the crowd in the Southern Stand may have farted simultaneously and in doing so disturbed Armo's ball drop to the extent that the ball ultimately skewed off his boot and skidded through for a useless point.

Now your being silly. Whilst possible highly unlikely.