Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

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Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248149Post howlinwolf »

As quoted on SEN with KB..
"The Harry O free late was a free kick every day of the week as he ran towards Harry with no eye on the ball, then made contact"
:shock:
Also "the umpiring late in the game considering the helter skelter of the game was brilliant " :shock:

He's entitled to his opinion but it seems very left field to me.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248152Post thejiggingsaint »

From where I sat, the Jolly incident was not a good look for Milney, and from then he seemed to be a target for umpires.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248153Post thejiggingsaint »

Patrick Smith is very reluctant to give the Saints any semblance of the "benefit of the doubt" and always backs umpires when we're involved.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248155Post chook23 »

It was the first caller re the subject and true to form Smith formed the opposite to the caller to ecourage debate from callers

Smith often does it.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248161Post mildurasaint »

Actually, agree with Smith on this one. Milney took his eyes of the ball a couple of times running back. Though it was fair enough. Other decisions not sure about but for me we lost the game by kicking poorly, and picking out Collingwood players such as Jolly too often.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248162Post chook23 »

mildurasaint wrote:Actually, agree with Smith on this one. Milney took his eyes of the ball a couple of times running back. Though it was fair enough. Other decisions not sure about but for me we lost the game by kicking poorly, and picking out Collingwood players such as Jolly too often.
The fact you take your eyes off the ball is not the issue....................

the free was paid for an arm chop did not happen

In fact he took his eyes off the ball to look and see where Obrien was to make sure he did not make sufficient fron on contact to warrant a free

I have no doubt the umpire guessed and this guess was fuelled by the fact it was milne.
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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248163Post Life Long Saint »

chook23 wrote:I have no doubt the umpire guessed.
And guessed wrong!


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248166Post saintspremiers »

thejiggingsaint wrote:From where I sat, the Jolly incident was not a good look for Milney, and from then he seemed to be a target for umpires.
Yet a few clowns on here derided my post saying
Milne should get a week.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248167Post chook23 »

saintspremiers wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:From where I sat, the Jolly incident was not a good look for Milney, and from then he seemed to be a target for umpires.
Yet a few clowns on here derided my post saying
Milne should get a week.
the angle may have looked bad..................

your angle may have made it look bad as well

from mine a clumsey kick off the ground...............covered by kicking in danger rule

will not go any further.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248169Post bergholt »

saintspremiers wrote:Yet a few clowns on here derided my post saying Milne should get a week.
looked a lot worse at the ground - the replay shows not much in it:

http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/?rou ... ality=high

in fact, it looks more like jolly stayed down way too long.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248171Post CURLY »

Shows how blatant a mistake it was if these two AFL muppets are lying to defend it. Those saying Milne took his eye off the ball before he git there so its free please go get a rule book and a mirror.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248179Post SuperDuper »

He did not come from the front. He came in from the side. And if Smith was not such a boofhead he would know that the free was not paid for coming from the front but for chopping of arms, which did not occur


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248180Post SainterK »

Agree with chook23, umpire clearly indicated an arm chop.

Same umpire that penalised Milne for swearing at an opponent.

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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248188Post joffaboy »

Smith is correct.

Milne hit harry O's arm just before the marking contest. From where the umpire was postioned his opinion would have been that the incidental contact would have caused O'brien to drop the mark.

Soft? Yes. Incidental? Yes. Does it happen a hundred times a game and no free? Yes. Inconsistant? YES.

Its not the ones like this paid, but the feeling supporters get that the umpires pick and choose when to free kick an incident.

Overumpiring may occur but consistancy is required. If you pay that type of free in the last 20 seconds of the game when forwards have been getting manhandled all night, it is not suprising the supporters feel aggrieved.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248190Post plugger66 »

No such free for taking eyes off the ball but any contact when running front on is a free. I still say the AFL will say it was the correct decision because there was very slight contact but like I said a free paid like that means there could be 100 in a game. What I dont understand is why people think that free, not others, had any bearing on our chances of playing finals.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248200Post Middo »

saintspremiers wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:From where I sat, the Jolly incident was not a good look for Milney, and from then he seemed to be a target for umpires.
Yet a few clowns on here derided my post saying
Milne should get a week.

Hey Arseclown , how many Milne kicked this year ...?
Just a good footballer doing a great job ....


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248205Post SaintPav »

Middo wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:From where I sat, the Jolly incident was not a good look for Milney, and from then he seemed to be a target for umpires.
Yet a few clowns on here derided my post saying
Milne should get a week.

Hey Arseclown , how many Milne kicked this year ...?
Just a good footballer doing a great job ....
You're tuning into quite a sniper aren't you.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248209Post Eastern »

There was NO arm chop as signalled by the umpire. The slow-Mo shows that Milne missed O'Brien alltogether. It could even be argued that Milne didn't go hard enough at the contest !!


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248213Post older saint »

IF the free kick was for interferance in a marking contest then fair enough but it was for chopping the arms , which did not happen. What is being argued by Smith is that a free kick was their , the wrong one was paid but that is ok because a free kick was there. .

Smith an unhappy Essendon supporter and glass half empty type of reporter would rather lose a testical than say anything positive about StKilda anyways


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248215Post Thinline »

The free was paid for an arm chop. Smith's thesis is flawed from the outset.


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Eastern wrote:There was NO arm chop as signalled by the umpire. The slow-Mo shows that Milne missed O'Brien alltogether. It could even be argued that Milne didn't go hard enough at the contest !!

Incorrect. Milne hit O'briens arm just prior to the marking contest. Thats what the umpire paid it for.

Selective blindness?


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Post: # 1248218Post joffaboy »

Thinline wrote:The free was paid for an arm chop. Smith's thesis is flawed from the outset.

I saw the umpire signal that Milne had contacted O'briens arm.

Is there a definitive signal that differentaites between contact to the arm and an arm chop?


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248219Post spert »

The one against Gram out on the wing a bit earlier for holding the ball was worse than Milne's I thought, clearly the umpire caved in to the Collingwood crowd. I was more riled up when Gwilt and Simpkin each gave away stupid obvious frees for holding the man in front of the Collingwood goal. We should be more unhappy with Milne giving away frees earlier in the game when the ball was in our forward line.


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248220Post perfectionist »

Eastern wrote:There was NO arm chop as signalled by the umpire. The slow-Mo shows that Milne missed O'Brien alltogether.
That's correct, there was no signal from the umpire, although that doesn't make much difference. The replays (that I have seen anyway) are inconclusive because it depends so much on the angle. However, I was in a perfect position to see it. Because my normal A1 position on the wing was taken up with (mainly) Collingwood supporters in reserved seats, I had to go to the "walk up seats" which started on the 50 metre arc. This meant that I was right behind Harry Taylor (as was the umpire) and could see the distance between him and Stephen Milne. There was daylight or should I say nightlight between them. There was no contact. The only explanation that I can give is to say that it was the same umpire who awarded a 50 metre penalty against Stephen when he wrongly attributed a remark to him that was part of a slanging match between Stephen and Harry. It was the same umpire who, while watching the two players behind play, ignored an elbow from Harry to Stephen and then penalised an elbow from Stephen to Harry. Anyone who thinks that some umpires do not treat Stephen differently to most other players has never been to a Saints match in the last five years.

There was an idiot in the HUN yesterday who said that despite kicking 3 goals (the highest on the night, along with Ahmed), Stephen Milne was responsible for the loss. As I said, an idiot from the HUN (tautological I know).


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Re: Patrick Smith's view on the umpiring

Post: # 1248224Post GoSaintersGo »

Umpires Dept. have reported that the free kick to O'Brien was INCORRECT. So up roars Fatprick Smith.
No mention on all the other mistakes in favour of the Filth is noted - might be embarrasing to the AFL and Dimwit.


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