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Don't forget the good old meat tray raffle on a Thursday night before the team was anounced.saintsRrising wrote:No surprising that SC numbers have dropped as the club has in recent years continually thumbed it's nose at SC Members, destroyed it's vale and meaning and turned it basically just into a GF Ticket access system...so once GF looked a bit off all those that joined for that reason would leave....and the long-term SC Members having had their value reduced would now have to think WTF we are paying out...
I still remember the arrogant Membership tosser who came onto this forum after the SC Reserved seat debacle to state that the letters had been all sent out ok...despite posts on this forum that they had not been received. Reason being that the Membership Dept stuffed up.
In chasing short term $ the club has screwed it's SC Members over.
Small things can mean a lot.
Once upon a time, after a win you would go into the Social Club and all sing the Club song together.
Once upon a time, after each game you would here the B+F 3/2/1 votes read out after the game
Once upon a time you could go to training...and in the Social Club before anyone else including the media you would hear the team read out.
Once upon a time...we had a Social Club......now all we have is a priority GF Ticket Access System!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Footy First came to power in part on a mandate that they would re-engage the members. As soon as their feet got under the boardroom table us the members, including SC Members just became sources of reven
Westaway was flying around the country garnering votes.....anyone seen him of late?
Good post.saintsRrising wrote:No surprising that SC numbers have dropped as the club has in recent years continually thumbed it's nose at SC Members, destroyed it's vale and meaning and turned it basically just into a GF Ticket access system...so once GF looked a bit off all those that joined for that reason would leave....and the long-term SC Members having had their value reduced would now have to think WTF we are paying out...
I still remember the arrogant Membership tosser who came onto this forum after the SC Reserved seat debacle to state that the letters had been all sent out ok...despite posts on this forum that they had not been received. Reason being that the Membership Dept stuffed up.
In chasing short term $ the club has screwed it's SC Members over.
Small things can mean a lot, and they did not have to cost much to supply....they just had to be born of a Club Ethos, rather than a "do you want fries with that mentality"
Once upon a time, after a win you would go into the Social Club and all sing the Club song together.
Once upon a time, after each game you would hear the B+F 3/2/1 votes read out after the game
Once upon a time you could go to training...and in the Social Club before anyone else including the media you would hear the team read out.
Once upon a time you had a SC Medallion with YOUR number on it...which never changed as it was YOUR number. Now you just have a barcode.
Once upon a time...we had a Social Club......now all we have is a priority GF Ticket Access System!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Footy First came to power in part on a mandate that they would re-engage the members. As soon as their feet got under the boardroom table us the members, including SC Members, just became sources of revenue again.
Westaway was flying around the country garnering proxies.....anyone seen him of late?
Im not sure the club care tbh.defacto wrote:i agree teflon.
i'm an interstate member. i get to see max 2 games a year here in perth. i was a paid up social club member. i didnt even get tickets to the one game we had at subi last year because i was never notified by the club. apparently they just searched the membership db for interstate members as opposed to to all members from wa.
now theres premium interstate, so i moved my membership over to that. theres absolutely no incentive to keep the social club membership.
there surely must be something the club can do to make the social club membership for appealing.
that's ridiculous. i would have done exactly what you did.True Believer wrote:I dropped SC this year for one reason and one reason alone - principle.
Every year I had an annual ritual of renewing the family membership and renewing my social club membership, normally in Feb or March, at Moorabbin, where I would also purchase new jumpers for the kids and what ever other merch grabbed my fancy.
This year, I received a phone call some weeks after the event to tell me "sorry, but you can no longer purchase SC on a family membership, you will all have to have individual memberships and you need to send us an extra $100 or so". Now I don't regard $100 as a great deal of cash, but I think the principle stinks, so I told them to poke it where the sun don't shine and refund my SC membership fee.
Excellent post!saintsRrising wrote:No surprising that SC numbers have dropped as the club has in recent years continually thumbed it's nose at SC Members, destroyed it's vale and meaning and turned it basically just into a GF Ticket access system...so once GF looked a bit off all those that joined for that reason would leave....and the long-term SC Members having had their value reduced would now have to think WTF we are paying out...
I still remember the arrogant Membership tosser who came onto this forum after the SC Reserved seat debacle to state that the letters had been all sent out ok...despite posts on this forum that they had not been received. Reason being that the Membership Dept stuffed up.
In chasing short term $ the club has screwed it's SC Members over.
Small things can mean a lot, and they did not have to cost much to supply....they just had to be born of a Club Ethos, rather than a "do you want fries with that mentality"
Once upon a time, after a win you would go into the Social Club and all sing the Club song together.
Once upon a time, after each game you would hear the B+F 3/2/1 votes read out after the game
Once upon a time you could go to training...and in the Social Club before anyone else including the media you would hear the team read out.
Once upon a time you had a SC Medallion with YOUR number on it...which never changed as it was YOUR number. Now you just have a barcode.
Once upon a time...we had a Social Club......now all we have is a priority GF Ticket Access System!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Footy First came to power in part on a mandate that they would re-engage the members. As soon as their feet got under the boardroom table us the members, including SC Members, just became sources of revenue again.
Westaway was flying around the country garnering proxies.....anyone seen him of late?
+1plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
Sorry Plugger but I think you're missing the point - when people fork over their hard-earned and are called "members", they expect to get something in return, and certainly don't see it as a donation. The problem is that SC offers what in the way of value??? If the only thing it represents is guaranteed GF access, then it becomes worthless in the eyes of many if they don't think we can make the GF.plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
Excellent post, Spot on!!True Believer wrote:Sorry Plugger but I think you're missing the point - when people fork over their hard-earned and are called "members", they expect to get something in return, and certainly don't see it as a donation. The problem is that SC offers what in the way of value??? If the only thing it represents is guaranteed GF access, then it becomes worthless in the eyes of many if they don't think we can make the GF.plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
Surely it is smarter and more beneficial for the club if the SC represents something more than what it presently does (a donation to the club). It is a revenue stream from the most responsive demographic they'll ever have, rusted on fans. If they chose to try and milk it like mad for no benefit to the fans then the club will miss out - let's not forget that the bulk of the supporters have a limited amount of discretionary income and have to chose what represents the best value for money for them.
In my case I could have afforded it, but for many that won't be the case, so instead of an incidental increase in membership revenue of about 20% (in our case), they lost a SC membership at whatever the value of that was. Doesn't strike me as smart business. They should be making it as easy as possible for people to "buy up to" extra membership options.
what exactly did i get for my social club membership in 2011 when i live in perth? i didnt even get a ticket to the 1 game they had over here because our useless membership dept cant even query a database correctly!!!! i wasnt the only perth social club member in this boat either!!!plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
+1. wifey did this as well.matrix wrote:dropped the sc 11 gamer and went with interstate premium
saved money
seemed logical
True Believer wrote:Sorry Plugger but I think you're missing the point - when people fork over their hard-earned and are called "members", they expect to get something in return, and certainly don't see it as a donation. The problem is that SC offers what in the way of value??? If the only thing it represents is guaranteed GF access, then it becomes worthless in the eyes of many if they don't think we can make the GF.plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
Surely it is smarter and more beneficial for the club if the SC represents something more than what it presently does (a donation to the club). It is a revenue stream from the most responsive demographic they'll ever have, rusted on fans. If they chose to try and milk it like mad for no benefit to the fans then the club will miss out - let's not forget that the bulk of the supporters have a limited amount of discretionary income and have to chose what represents the best value for money for them.
In my case I could have afforded it, but for many that won't be the case, so instead of an incidental increase in membership revenue of about 20% (in our case), they lost a SC membership at whatever the value of that was. Doesn't strike me as smart business. They should be making it as easy as possible for people to "buy up to" extra membership options.
keep half the social club seating non-reserve. Have it available the week before through the club. Thus those who are from interstate, from geelong and other towns or would like to invite more social club friends to sit with them can use his facility. They still get a bay full of reserved but also make money from those wanting to book ($5 a pop sounds fair) each week. Simple database exercise which would make the club money and also give something back of value to the social club member.plugger66 wrote:True Believer wrote:Sorry Plugger but I think you're missing the point - when people fork over their hard-earned and are called "members", they expect to get something in return, and certainly don't see it as a donation. The problem is that SC offers what in the way of value??? If the only thing it represents is guaranteed GF access, then it becomes worthless in the eyes of many if they don't think we can make the GF.plugger66 wrote:I still say the club had no choice but to make money while it could. Numbers will drop off no matter how you treat members when in the opinion of supporters they are on the way down. SC members have dropped off because they dont see the need to join because a GF ticket isnt an issue this year. We had to make money when it was an issue. Do people really think a little gift will keep members. may keep a few but the cost would out way the benefit. Yes it would be nice to do heaps for members but really these type of things are donations and you get more donations when successful. We have lost 5k members this year. I would have thought that was an obvious amount because people thought we couldnt win the flag. Do you people actually think a little gift would keep them? I doubt it.
Surely it is smarter and more beneficial for the club if the SC represents something more than what it presently does (a donation to the club). It is a revenue stream from the most responsive demographic they'll ever have, rusted on fans. If they chose to try and milk it like mad for no benefit to the fans then the club will miss out - let's not forget that the bulk of the supporters have a limited amount of discretionary income and have to chose what represents the best value for money for them.
In my case I could have afforded it, but for many that won't be the case, so instead of an incidental increase in membership revenue of about 20% (in our case), they lost a SC membership at whatever the value of that was. Doesn't strike me as smart business. They should be making it as easy as possible for people to "buy up to" extra membership options.
Well this is where we disagree. i still say it is a donation and as soon as a club drops the people drop their donation off because the donation had one thing going for it and that is a GF ticket. What could the club give people when a side is on the way down that would keep them as SC members. i doubt there is much that would change peoples minds once the club is on the way down. Only have to look at our normal membership this year. Im afraid footy is a grab for cash and you have to strike while the iron is hot.
And i must hang out with different members to you because most of the ones I know would be lucky to use their membership once or twice a year. Doesnt mean some dont go but get in on other tickets. They only buy a membership as a donation.
