$8.78 million

[dragit]

Apparently that is the salary cap…

There are a lot of figures getting thrown about for certain players… none of us probably know the actual figures, but I thought it might be interesting to see how people imagine our cap is split… I guess there is a standard figure for newly drafted blokes, is it about $50K for base pay?… How much do think these bloke get this year:
(delete my guesses if you disagree)

Armitage, David - $150,000
Blake, Jason - $250,000
Clarke, Raphael - $200,000
Cripps, Jamie - $ 90,000
Crocker, Sam - $50,000
Dal Santo, Nick - $500,000
Dempster, Sean - $250,000
Fisher, Sam - $500,000
Geary, Jarryn - $150,000
Gilbert, Sam - $350,000
Goddard, Brendon - $400,000
Gram, Jason - $500,000
Gwilt, James - $ 250,000
Hayes, Lenny - $550,000
Jones, Clinton - $250,000
Koschitzke, Justin - $500,000
Ledger, Tom - $70,000
Lever, Jay - $50,000
Markworth, Daniel - $50,000
McEvoy, Ben - $200,000
Milera, Terry - $50,000
Milne, Stephen - $400,000
Montagna, Leigh - $450,000
Newnes, Jack - $50,000
Peake, Brett - $180,000
Polo, Dean - $150,000
Ray, Farren - $200,000
Riewoldt, Nick - $900,000
Ross, Sebastian - $50,000
Saad, Ahmed - $50,000
Schneider, Adam - $350,000
Simpkin, Tom - $80,000
Siposs, Arryn - $80,000
Stanley, Rhys - $150,000
Steven, Jack - $120,000
Webster, Jimmy - $50,000
Wilkes, Beau - $50,000
Winmar, Nicholas - $80,000

Mine comes in at about $8.9mil

[perfectionist]

You forgot:
Perfectionist $950,000
So, we are way over.

[dragit]

You forgot:
Perfectionist $950,000
So, we are way over.

Totally forgot about you… sorry
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Plugger - Can of Coke
BigNote - an old spud

We'll lose our first pick next year for sure

[Spinner]

This is a good thread. Sort of working backwards to get a ball park figure on the $$$ players are getting.

Ill update my thoughts shortly.

[Legendary]

The word that I heard was that Blake was playing for not much more than minimum base pay + match payments this year, as his way of helping the club with the salary cap ... I reckon he would be on around $80-100k ...

[Con Gorozidis]

id say it looks right.

if we pretend your numbers are close to right. then ud think:

roo/gram/kosi/milne - will all take cuts next year. (kosi especially)

bj/armo/geary/saad/siposs/stanley will all get rises. (armo especially)

[desertsaint]

Lot of work there drag it, based on your figures I've added any opinion. No comment means i think it's fair or no idea.

Armitage, David - $150,000. Will go up next contract.
Blake, Jason - $250,000. Would be on less but deserves to be on at least that.
Clarke, Raphael - $200,000. Should be on $150k
Cripps, Jamie - $ 90,000
Crocker, Sam - $50,000
Dal Santo, Nick - $500,000.
Dempster, Sean - $250,000.
Fisher, Sam - $500,000
Geary, Jarryn - $150,000
Gilbert, Sam - $350,000. Overpaid by $100k
Goddard, Brendon - $400,000 underpaid.
Gram, Jason - $500,000 over by $250k
Gwilt, James - $ 250,000
Hayes, Lenny - $550,000
Jones, Clinton - $250,000
Koschitzke, Justin - $500,000. Over by $200k.
Ledger, Tom - $70,000
Lever, Jay - $50,000
Markworth, Daniel - $50,000
McEvoy, Ben - $200,000
Milera, Terry - $50,000 - to go up next contract.
Milne, Stephen - $400,000
Montagna, Leigh - $450,000
Newnes, Jack - $50,000
Peake, Brett - $180,000. Over by $50. Delist
Polo, Dean - $150,000. Delist
Ray, Farren - $200,000
Riewoldt, Nick - $900,000. Over by $300k
Ross, Sebastian - $50,000
Saad, Ahmed - $50,000 - will go up to $150k
Schneider, Adam - $350,000. Over by $50k.
Simpkin, Tom - $80,000
Siposs, Arryn - $80,000 - will go up to $150k.
Stanley, Rhys - $150,000. Overpaid - should go up to that amount next contract.
Steven, Jack - $120,000 underpaid by $30k, should go up to $200-$250k next contract.
Webster, Jimmy - $50,000
Wilkes, Beau - $50,000
Winmar, Nicholas - $80,000

Mine comes in at about $8.9mil

Don't know what my changes comes up to, but with delistings and veterans should stay under the cap with my changes, and free up enough for a very good trade player.

[dragit]

id say it looks right.

if we pretend your numbers are close to right. then ud think:

roo/gram/kosi/milne - will all take cuts next year. (kosi especially)

bj/armo/geary/saad/siposs/stanley will all get rises. (armo especially)

That would be nice, except you don't take a cut if you are already contracted or have a clause to be contracted at the same figure…

If I am even remotely close on some of these figures, it means that 9 or so blokes (all over 28) are taking more than half of our cap - over 4.5 million. While things are dire right now, in a couple of years we will have plenty of room to play with.

[8856brother]

id say it looks right.

if we pretend your numbers are close to right. then ud think:

roo/gram/kosi/milne - will all take cuts next year. (kosi especially)

bj/armo/geary/saad/siposs/stanley will all get rises. (armo especially)

That would be nice, except you don't take a cut if you are already contracted or have a clause to be contracted at the same figure…

If I am even remotely close on some of these figures, it means that 9 or so blokes (all over 28) are taking more than half of our cap - over 4.5 million. While things are dire right now, in a couple of years we will have plenty of room to play with.

Can't some of those old farts also be put on the old timers list, or what ever it's called, and only 1/2 their salary count. We must have a few in this catigory by now.

[plugger66]

You havent allowed for match payments for most of the young guys. For example Jack would earn at least 200K if he played every game and guys like Milera would earn at least 100K if they play every game.

[ausfatcat]

It would be very interesting to the actual real figures thou

[dragit]

Can't some of those old farts also be put on the old timers list, or what ever it's called, and only 1/2 their salary count. We must have a few in this catigory by now.

I think the rules have changed a bit recently, from what I can gather $100,000 can be excluded from the cap for any amount of veterans on your list - over 30 YO, plus 10 years at the club…

When Riewoldt was signed up to his current contract the rule at the time was that half his salary would not be counted in the cap (next year). But with the change in veteran rules, it does make his wage a lot harder to justify…

Next year we will potentially have 6 players over 30, so in effect 600,00 outside the cap, not quite as good as half of lenny + roos's wages, which would be around 800,000?

[dragit]

You havent allowed for match payments for most of the young guys. For example Jack would earn at least 200K if he played every game and guys like Milera would earn at least 100K if they play every game.

Good point, I know nothing about match day payments… are they the same for all players (say 2K per game )or are they set by experience, performance etc?

[plugger66]

You havent allowed for match payments for most of the young guys. For example Jack would earn at least 200K if he played every game and guys like Milera would earn at least 100K if they play every game.

Good point, I know nothing about match day payments… are they the same for all players (say 2K per game )or are they set by experience, performance etc?

No the only payments that are the same are first and second year players. I think it is about 3k minimum a game. A guy like Jack maybe on a set contract or a base and match payments which I reckon would be about 4k at least a game. All the very good players are on set contracts no matter how many games they play.

[skeptic]

Armitage, David - $150,000
Stanley, Rhys - $150,000
Steven, Jack - $120,000
Milera, Terry - $50,000

Most likely all due for a raise

Gilbert, Sam - $350,000
Goddard, Brendon - $400,000
Gram, Jason - $500,000
Koschitzke, Justin - $500,000
Milne, Stephen - $400,000
Montagna, Leigh - $450,000
Riewoldt, Nick - $900,000
Schneider, Adam - $350,000
Winmar, Nicholas - $80,000

IMO all overpaid and would explain our SC probs if ur correct/close

[dragit]

All the very good players are on set contracts no matter how many games they play.

So anyone on a $300K+ contract does not get match day payments?

[Con Gorozidis]

id say it looks right.

if we pretend your numbers are close to right. then ud think:

roo/gram/kosi/milne - will all take cuts next year. (kosi especially)

bj/armo/geary/saad/siposs/stanley will all get rises. (armo especially)

That would be nice, except you don't take a cut if you are already contracted or have a clause to be contracted at the same figure…

If I am even remotely close on some of these figures, it means that 9 or so blokes (all over 28) are taking more than half of our cap - over 4.5 million. While things are dire right now, in a couple of years we will have plenty of room to play with.

well yeah. just change where i used the word "year" to "contract"

surely kosi is on his last contract.

[Con Gorozidis]

All the very good players are on set contracts no matter how many games they play.

So anyone on a $300K+ contract does not get match day payments?

surely there is some incentive clauses in there?
top 5 b & f etc etc?

[plugger66]

Armitage, David - $150,000
Stanley, Rhys - $150,000
Steven, Jack - $120,000
Milera, Terry - $50,000

Most likely all due for a raise

Gilbert, Sam - $350,000
Goddard, Brendon - $400,000
Gram, Jason - $500,000
Koschitzke, Justin - $500,000
Milne, Stephen - $400,000
Montagna, Leigh - $450,000
Riewoldt, Nick - $900,000
Schneider, Adam - $350,000
Winmar, Nicholas - $80,000

IMO all overpaid and would explain our SC probs if ur correct/close

I doubt Milne would be on 400k and I also dont think BJ is overpaid if he is on 400k. As for Winmar he probably couldnt get any less anyway under the pay constraints.

[plugger66]

All the very good players are on set contracts no matter how many games they play.

So anyone on a $300K+ contract does not get match day payments?

I dont know what figure but probably 15 players are on set contracts no matter how many games they play. Could even be as high as 20. I know the incentive for top 5 in the B&F was changed to just the winner a few years ago but it could be different now.

[noob]

jason blake wouldnt be on 250k if he got redrafted

[plugger66]

jason blake wouldnt be on 250k if he got redrafted

Why? I reckon he would be bloody close to it. At least 200k.

[mr six o'clock]

If these figures are roughly correct , we've got a hell of allot of overpaid players .

[BigMart]

Minimum payment is a hell of a lot more at base salary

First round draftees get more than 50k

[tweedaletomanning]

If these figures are roughly correct , we've got a hell of allot of overpaid players .

And we've got a hell of a lot of incompetent contract negotiators...