Who gets McQualter?

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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227134Post Moods »

bobmurray wrote:Mini wasn't good enough as a player at the Saints and that's what the thread implies....
Is that what it implies? :roll:


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227135Post spert »

bobmurray wrote:Mini wasn't good enough as a player at the Saints and that's what the thread implies....
He would have developed into a good player under any coach but Lyon IMHO


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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spert wrote:
bobmurray wrote:Mini wasn't good enough as a player at the Saints and that's what the thread implies....
He would have developed into a good player under any coach but Lyon IMHO
So he developed into 2/5s of nothingness under GT and it is GT's fault too?


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227174Post gringo »

People should remember that Jimmy Gwilt looked like a donkey playing the Mc Qualter role. That forward pressure defender is a really hard role to play if you want to show your skills off. Standing between Roo and his defender, running along side the Heath Shaw, Harry O types to stop the release is not pretty but it is effective at slowing down the rebound.

Mini was unfortunately a bit slow, a bit short and not as skilled as 4 or 5 other mids so was used as a bits and pieces player under GT and Ross. When he got his chances in the midfield he was never disgraced just not outstanding. Hope he gets to show his skills at GC and prove a few wrong.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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gringo wrote:People should remember that Jimmy Gwilt looked like a donkey playing the Mc Qualter role. That forward pressure defender is a really hard role to play if you want to show your skills off. Standing between Roo and his defender, running along side the Heath Shaw, Harry O types to stop the release is not pretty but it is effective at slowing down the rebound.

Mini was unfortunately a bit slow, a bit short and not as skilled as 4 or 5 other mids so was used as a bits and pieces player under GT and Ross. When he got his chances in the midfield he was never disgraced just not outstanding. Hope he gets to show his skills at GC and prove a few wrong.
Gwilt played the 3rd tall role. He was not in the side for defensive pressure at all...


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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The Redeemer wrote:
gringo wrote:People should remember that Jimmy Gwilt looked like a donkey playing the Mc Qualter role. That forward pressure defender is a really hard role to play if you want to show your skills off. Standing between Roo and his defender, running along side the Heath Shaw, Harry O types to stop the release is not pretty but it is effective at slowing down the rebound.

Mini was unfortunately a bit slow, a bit short and not as skilled as 4 or 5 other mids so was used as a bits and pieces player under GT and Ross. When he got his chances in the midfield he was never disgraced just not outstanding. Hope he gets to show his skills at GC and prove a few wrong.
Gwilt played the 3rd tall role. He was not in the side for defensive pressure at all...
Disagree but he didn't play well there despite what his role was.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227195Post HitTheBoundary »

Starting a thread to belittle a player who tried hard for us but just wasn't up to it - then trying to justify it by claiming he "missed tackles" etc. is pretty poor. But it obviously gives you a boost.

Why don't you go back to pulling wings off flies and bullying small children.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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Moods wrote:Worse things in life than not being a great AFL footballer - and I'm tipping that 99.999% of ppl who subscribe on here have never had the talent to play ONE AFL game in their lives.
i don't disagree with your general sentiment, but f*** that's a stupid and useless thing to say.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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bergholt wrote:
Moods wrote:Worse things in life than not being a great AFL footballer - and I'm tipping that 99.999% of ppl who subscribe on here have never had the talent to play ONE AFL game in their lives.
i don't disagree with your general sentiment, but f*** that's a stupid and useless thing to say.
I don't quite understand...ha


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227315Post Little Dozer »

People take things so personally. He performed poorly in history changing moments for St Kilda FC. Who cares what sort of bloke he is? This is a football forum.


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Post: # 1227366Post The Redeemer »

Little Dozer wrote:People take things so personally. He performed poorly in history changing moments for St Kilda FC. Who cares what sort of bloke he is? This is a football forum.
My point exactly. I wish I was paid fairly well to completely bugger up when I actually needed to perform for my employer.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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The Redeemer wrote:
Little Dozer wrote:People take things so personally. He performed poorly in history changing moments for St Kilda FC. Who cares what sort of bloke he is? This is a football forum.
My point exactly. I wish I was paid fairly well to completely bugger up when I actually needed to perform for my employer.

Lets start a thread then on every player we play against every week who you dont rate. Whats the point?


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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Him on the field is like playing with 17 anyway so we will enjoy the 1 man advantage.

I truly dislike mediocrity at the football club I support and he epitomised it.
How long have you supported us for champ??
There must be a long, long list of players you truly dislike because we have had plenty of them.

Mini wasn't a world beater but he was an integral part of our 2009 season and our forward pressure that changed the way the game is played started with him.
He missed some goals and some tackles that he should have made in all 3 GF's but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe in that department.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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gosaints wrote:
The Redeemer wrote:
Him on the field is like playing with 17 anyway so we will enjoy the 1 man advantage.

I truly dislike mediocrity at the football club I support and he epitomised it.
How long have you supported us for champ??
There must be a long, long list of players you truly dislike because we have had plenty of them.

Mini wasn't a world beater but he was an integral part of our 2009 season and our forward pressure that changed the way the game is played started with him.
He missed some goals and some tackles that he should have made in all 3 GF's but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe in that department.
He was not a game changer as you are suggesting. He was part of an 18 man movement that pressed up against an opponent in their defensive 50 so no need to over-rate his meagre contribution.

The old 'how long have you supported us' line...followed by a bogan-condecending 'champ' remark. Cool.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227399Post SainterK »

Exactly.

Did what he was told.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227400Post The Redeemer »

SainterK wrote:Exactly.

Did what he was told.
and still failed miserably.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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Not only did Jimmy Gwilt fail in the McQualter position, Armo looked ordinary in it last season.

Hows Armo going now?

But hey Redeemer, you have the backing of the likes of Little Poser, and knobmurray so you are in exalted company.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227411Post SainterK »

The Redeemer wrote:
SainterK wrote:Exactly.

Did what he was told.
and still failed miserably.
Or the concept of playing someone as a defensive forward, who wasn't actually a forward, failed miserably.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227412Post The Redeemer »

SainterK wrote:
The Redeemer wrote:
SainterK wrote:Exactly.

Did what he was told.
and still failed miserably.
Or the concept of playing someone as a defensive forward, who wasn't actually a forward, failed miserably.

Most clubs have them do they not? However other clubs actually have players that can do something with the ball or tackle.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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joffaboy wrote:Not only did Jimmy Gwilt fail in the McQualter position, Armo looked ordinary in it last season.

Hows Armo going now?

But hey Redeemer, you have the backing of the likes of Little Poser, and knobmurray so you are in exalted company.
Did Gwilt really play defensive forward? I always remembered him as playing 3rd tall in a vastly populated forward-line and subsequently starved of opportunities.

What a c**k-up getting Gwilt to play that position as he is not too quick and his tackling does not stand out either. That being said he has become a really good back for us.

Armitage looked average in an average side last year. The ball was coming out of our forward line too swiftly and hence our results in the first half of the season.

Do better with the insults sugarplumfairy


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227415Post SainterK »

It's quite an original idea, but most clubs have 'forwards' playing this forwards role.

We have finally caught up.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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The Redeemer wrote:Armitage looked average in an average side last year. The ball was coming out of our forward line too swiftly and hence our results in the first half of the season.

Do better with the insults sugarplumfairy

Armo played the same role as McQualter last year.

As for insults, wasn't attacking you, just your associates :P

BTW are you going to project once again this weekend by calling Dools a re virgin?

Admit it junior, your next will be your first :D


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

Post: # 1227418Post plugger66 »

SainterK wrote:It's quite an original idea, but most clubs have 'forwards' playing this forwards role.

We have finally caught up.

Strange that you never seemed to worry previously. It seems RL could do no wrong until he left our club.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:It's quite an original idea, but most clubs have 'forwards' playing this forwards role.

We have finally caught up.

Strange that you never seemed to worry previously. It seems RL could do no wrong until he left our club.
I've always defended Mini, and that (IMO) he should of been in the midfield....and the the role of forward with the emphasis of the 'defensive' work in front of it is enough to kill off anyones footy instinct.

Much rather play a kid there who is naturally dangerous, kick goals....and the tackle / pressure is an added bonus.


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Re: Who gets McQualter?

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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:It's quite an original idea, but most clubs have 'forwards' playing this forwards role.

We have finally caught up.

Strange that you never seemed to worry previously. It seems RL could do no wrong until he left our club.
I've always defended Mini, and that (IMO) he should of been in the midfield....and the the role of forward with the emphasis of the 'defensive' work in front of it is enough to kill off anyones footy instinct.

Much rather play a kid there who is naturally dangerous, kick goals....and the tackle / pressure is an added bonus.

Firstly Mini wasnt good enough for the middle and found an important role up forward and secondly who was the player who should have played forward instead of mini considering the game plan RL had implimented.

I still cant recall you saying the forward set up was wrong.


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