CONTRACTS

[SainterK]

At the moment I would suggest the players who are in danger of being delisted at the end of the year would be Jason Gram.

Really?

He may be offered a heavily reduced contract, but delisted?

[Old Mate]

Wouldn't mind getting Dunnell and Curren signed up to the seniors.

Ferguson too!
Not sure how we are going to handle all the upgrades this year with the Super draft.

Just remember we're two players short of a full senior list. I'd imagine we will upgrade two rookies to fill the list. At this stage Ferguson and Curren the frontrunners. Then delist/rookie/trade/retire 4-6 players to give us a few picks in the draft.

At a guess:
- Upgrade Curren and Ferguson
- Blake and Milne retire
- Delist Crocker and Peake

That gives us 4 picks in the draft. 2 others will probably go as well for one reason or another.

[borderbarry]

we're two players short of a full senior list. I'd imagine we will upgrade two rookies to fill the list.

When are we able to do that? Shortly I hope.

[Old Mate]

we're two players short of a full senior list. I'd imagine we will upgrade two rookies to fill the list.

When are we able to do that? Shortly I hope.

I keep hearing round 11 or half way through the season.

[stkildathunda]

we're two players short of a full senior list. I'd imagine we will upgrade two rookies to fill the list.

When are we able to do that? Shortly I hope.

I keep hearing round 11 or half way through the season.

Round 12 every club can promote a nominated rookie without putting anyone on LTI List. But they go back onto rookie list at years end, same as any LTI promoted rookie.

[Old Mate]

Sweet

[Con Gorozidis]

im BULLISH on jackson ferguson
great white hope!

[plugger66]

im BULLISH on jackson ferguson
great white hope!

But why? Surely you have only seen him play a couple of times.

[Con Gorozidis]

im BULLISH on jackson ferguson
great white hope!

But why? Surely you have only seen him play a couple of times.

gut feel! like the way he moves!
looks a player! seems to have some composure and seems to make ok decisions.
thats all u can ask from a 19 yo.

[borderbarry]

It will be between Curren, Ferguson, and Dunnell as to who gets promoted after Round 12. I think we are alright for Mids, but a tall defender and a medium forward, we dont have many of either. Ferguson for mine.

[Dave McNamara]

It will be between Curren, Ferguson, and Dunnell as to who gets promoted after Round 12. I think we are alright for Mids, but a tall defender and a medium forward, we dont have many of either. Ferguson for mine.

If we promote someone, then that makes sense to me BB.

If we can't currently find a spot for the cat-kicker Ledger, then why would we promote Curren this mid year? As I've opined before, I suspect Dunnell will end up an absolute star, but a bit more time in the gym first won't hurt - so next year for him for mine.

That leaves Jackson F... P66 is probably correct in saying he's not quite ready yet, but maybe given our situation with tall defenders, we may try and get a few games into him... like we did with Simpko last season???

[plugger66]

It will be between Curren, Ferguson, and Dunnell as to who gets promoted after Round 12. I think we are alright for Mids, but a tall defender and a medium forward, we dont have many of either. Ferguson for mine.

If we promote someone, then that makes sense to me BB.

If we can't currently find a spot for the cat-kicker Ledger, then why would we promote Curren this mid year? As I've opined before, I suspect Dunnell will end up an absolute star, but a bit more time in the gym first won't hurt - so next year for him for mine.

That leaves Jackson F... P66 is probably correct in saying he's not quite ready yet, but maybe given our situation with tall defenders, we may try and get a few games into him... like we did with Simpko last season???

I dont think there is a rush. Soemeone may know but i dont think they have to be promoted by round 12. Cant we just wait and see if they are going to be used.

[gunnsaint]

Why is Jimmy Gwilt and unrestricted free agent. He hasn't been at the club 8 years yet. At the end of this year it makes him a restricted free agent doesn't it?

[plugger66]

Why is Jimmy Gwilt and unrestricted free agent. He hasn't been at the club 8 years yet. At the end of this year it makes him a restricted free agent doesn't it?

Well isnt that when the draft is?

[ThePunter]

Gwilt would be an unrestricted free agent because he is not in the top 10 paid players at the club.

[Superstar]

Read this from Jon Ralph, take it as you will but thought it would add to the discussion on the thread.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert- ... 6385214357

The Dockers will be the aggressor in free agency because they have the coin.

We keep hearing about Travis Cloke, but Brendon Goddard is the fascinating one.

They are interested - make no mistake - and given the Ross Lyon connection, it makes sense.

Goddard plays the media game brilliantly, citing his loyalty yet leaving the door ajar.

He has told St Kilda he doesn't intent to go elsewhere, but there is no doubt they need to shed one highly-paid player to keep under the salary cap.

Especially with the kids improving so much and therefore deserving pay rises.

And with Lenny Hayes going on and deserving fair money.

All of it adds up to a potential win-win deal if St Kilda got picks for Goddard, valuable salary cap relief, and Fremantle got the player it wants.

And this;

St Kilda
Jason Blake (unrestricted)
Raphael Clarke (unrestricted)
Sam Fisher (restricted)
Brendon Goddard (restricted)
Jason Gram (restricted)
James Gwilt (unrestricted)
Lenny Hayes (unrestricted)
Justin Koschitzke (unrestricted)
Stephen Milne (unrestricted)
Leigh Montagna (unrestricted)

Sam Fisher recently signed on long-term, with Gram and Kosi having clauses which should see them playing on next year at quite good money.

Milne signed another one-year deal too, so he is safe.

So who ultimately gets done in by the number crunch that is their salary cap squeeze?

Nick Dal Santo has one more year on his deal, but they simply cannot fit everyone in given the back-ended contracts and promises made in past years.

It is believed the problem facing Chris Pelchen is even more extreme than the issues at Hawthorn when they were basically bottom of the ladder but with one of the highest wage bills.

The key is the success Scott Watters is having in his first year.

If this side was 3-7 and Goddard was being offered $1 million a year at Fremantle, why wouldn't he go?

Similarly, the fact GWS has admitted it is not in the race for Travis Cloke means surely it cannot afford Goddard.

So scratch him from considerations to move up north.

In the cold hard light of the day, Montagna is under the pump.

Not because his form is not great - he was super v Richmond on Friday night - but if they are going to lose one high-paid midfielder, he might just be the one left over.

Lets hope St Kilda finds a way to keep him.

But given the wage constraints it seems almost certain that one player will be tipped out. Its going to be St Kilda's version of musical chairs.

James Gwilt is another one raising eyebrows across the competition.

The club says it will keep him, but given he kicks it well, is versatile and can play key back, there will definitely be suitors for him.

The club plucked him from nowhere, has given him seven-and-a-half years, and will play him every week.

But he has some bargaining power given the likely interest from elsewhere.

[MC Gusto]

Believe they are trying to get Stanley done prior to him returning from injury

[ThePunter]

Fremantle may have the money, but all my mail is that Goddard does not want to play under Ross Lyon again.

Will GWS go after anybody? Or are they sufficiently happy with their early development that they'll stick with what they have and keep the money to try and keep as many of the kids together as possible?

The whole Cloke thing is weird. Who has their father as their manager? Crazy.

[saintly]

Believe they are trying to get Stanley done prior to him returning from injury

i hope so. i would hat to have him to wait until the end of the year.

[Superstar]

Fremantle may have the money, but all my mail is that Goddard does not want to play under Ross Lyon again.

Will GWS go after anybody? Or are they sufficiently happy with their early development that they'll stick with what they have and keep the money to try and keep as many of the kids together as possible?

The whole Cloke thing is weird. Who has their father as their manager? Crazy.

REally, cause i've heard the opposite. who knows, i guess only BJ. FWIW my gut feel is he'll stay.

[creepypolar]

From what ive worked out over the time below is current list which posted here - http://www.truesainters.com/truesainter ... ntly-Stand

UPDATED 12/04/12

2015
Ben McEvoy

2014
Sam Fisher

2013
Nick Riewoldt
Nick Dal Santo
Nicholas Winmar
David Armitage
Tom Simpkin
Jack Steven (dont hold me to this, but assuming got 2 year min extension)
Clint Jones - No official announcement but told us at B&F he had just signed 2 year deal
Terry Milera
Ahmed Saad


can u plese update for rhys and the JGs, thanks
Farren Ray - Led to believe signed 2 year deal
Sean Dempster - Could have got 3 years as was talk of 2 or 3 year deal
Sebastian Ross
Daniel Markworth
Jack Newnes
Jimmy Webster
Jay Lever


2012
Brendon Goddard - Restricted Free Agent
Lenny Hayes - Unrestricted Free Agent
Kosi - Unrestricted Free Agent
Jason Gram - Restricted Free Agent
Leigh Montagna - Unrestricted Free Agent
Stephen Milne - Unrestricted Free Agent
James Gwilt - Unrestricted Free Agent
Raphael Clarke - Unrestricted Free Agent
Jason Blake - Unrestricted Free Agent
Adam Schneider
Sam Gilbert
Rhys Stanley
Arryn Siposs
Sam Crocker
Tom Ledger
Jarryn Geary
Tom Curren
Daniel Archer
Jackson Ferguson
Warrick Andreoli
Dean Polo - No mention of length, im just guessing
Beau Wilkes - No mention but going by previous "recycled" player contracts only 1 year
Brett Peake

[creepypolar]

sorry couldnt quote properly, could u please update, thanks!

[saintbrat]

try here
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=58352&p=1225796#p1225796

[creepypolar]

thanks SB

[stkildathunda]

sorry couldnt quote properly, could u please update, thanks!

I keep them updated on True Sainters if u ever need to check - http://www.truesainters.com/truesainter ... ntly-Stand

UPDATED 09/07/12

2015
Ben McEvoy
Rhys Stanley

2014
Sam Fisher
James Gwilt
Jarryn Geary

2013
Nick Riewoldt
Nick Dal Santo
Nicholas Winmar
David Armitage
Tom Simpkin
Jack Steven (dont hold me to this, but assuming got 2 year min extension)
Clint Jones - No official announcement but told us at B&F he had just signed 2 year deal
Terry Milera
Ahmed Saad
Farren Ray
Sean Dempster - Could have got 3 years as was talk of 2 or 3 year deal
Sebastian Ross
Daniel Markworth
Jack Newnes
Jimmy Webster
Jay Lever
Adam Schneider


2012
Brendon Goddard - Restricted Free Agent
Lenny Hayes - Unrestricted Free Agent
Kosi - Unrestricted Free Agent - Has clause in current contract that would take him to 2013
Jason Gram - Restricted Free Agent - - Has clause in current contract that would take him to 2013
Leigh Montagna - Unrestricted Free Agent
Stephen Milne - Unrestricted Free Agent
Raphael Clarke - Unrestricted Free Agent
Jason Blake - Unrestricted Free Agent
Sam Gilbert - Rumoured to have signed new 2 or 3 year deal
Arryn Siposs
Sam Crocker
Tom Ledger
Jamie Cripps
Dean Polo - No mention of length, im just guessing
Beau Wilkes - No mention but going by previous "recycled" player contracts only 1 year
Brett Peake

ROOKIES (Note pretty sure all rookies are on 1 year contracts)

Tom Curren
Daniel Archer - Pretty sure has reached max time can be rookied, needs to be promoted or delisted
Jackson Ferguson
Warrick Andreoli
Sam Dunnel
Darren Minchington
Cameron Shenton
Jordan Staley