Hi Dragit, sorry I forgot to name you on my little list of posters above, you should be there (despite missing the call on Jack R on another post - don't worry, I reckon our latest boy from Colac will have you back on track with that one next Friday.)dragit wrote:Dave you're getting right off your tucker here mate…Dave McNamara wrote:Ben, Fisher, Schneider, Raph, Ledger, Curren, Newnes, Ferg, Rhys, Dunnell, Ross, Wilkes (up forward), D'arch would all offer more now and going forward. Peeps may argue the toss on some of those guys, but even so, that so many names could be throw up as preferable to Grammy is a disgrace and an indictment considering his talent!
Sounding a little like ToTheTop with Milne or Tweedledum with Joey…
8 of those have proved absolutely nothing so far, two of which can't even play unless we get a long term injury.
Gram is a running defender, he's not an inside mid… Averaging 21 touches a game (same as J.Steven), he's been going alright without vying for a brownlow.
For whatever reason you don't like his attitude & think he isn't trying hard enough, same is said about Montagna. There is some kind of tough-guy mentality that perpetuates this myth particularly regarding more outside type players. "He needs a good kick up the arse" … much easier at home on the couch or up in the stands that is for sure.
They both look like they are trying to me… & obviously the selection panel thinks so too or they wouldn't be picked.
What can I say...? I guess the reason I haven't been on the cases of the likes of Milney,(and especially) Monty, Dal and Gilbo is that I see them really trying hard. I agree with P66, Grammy doesn't have to be Lenny, but he could attempt to do the one percenters. Again, I'm not out there (for good reason) but if I was, even I could at least attempt to perform the one percenters. I mean, you don't have to be a hardnosed in and under grunt-machine to wander over to a contest, and try and put a shepherd on for a team mate. Hey, that shepherd mightn't be the greatest ever, but at least if I was out there I can say that I'd give it a go.
I guess Dragit what I'm trying to say in my own incoherent way, is for peeps to maybe not just watch what Grammy does, but watch what he does not do...
Grammy just wanders around, picking up meaningless, ineffectual, no damage-to-the-enemy-possessions. So for me, to compare his count with the boy from (where was it again?) is misleading.
I do realise that many of our blokes whom I listed above haven't played or aren't eligible to play seniors, or haven't done much if they have played seniors, but I would honestly prefer any of them to the current Grammy performances.
If people don't agree with all those names listed above, you'd have to admit that at least several of them offer the team more than Grammy is currently. Based on that he shouldn't be taking their spot.
Or another way to look at it is, who would you drop before Grammy? IMHO... Sippos will be a star and needs games to achieve this. Cripps could comfortably perform Grammy's 'role'. Gilbo isn't as going as bad as some would have, can play tall, oh, and is always hard at it. CJ is seriously underrated, and again, I don't reckon his kicking is as distastrous as some believe. Am I forgeting someone?
As for the coaching staff, et al... I suspect that as the senior guys on the injury list come back, Grammy will go out. I also suspect that Pelchen will look seriously at moving him on next year. Time will tell I guess...? I read that they tried last trade period, Nuff Nuff Melb were interested, but baulked when they heard what he was on. (Can anyone confirm/refute that???)
Again Dragit, he can do soooooo much better, and I'm not sure why peeps' are putting up with his under-delivery. I again ask the question, to you honestly believe that Grammy is trying his guts out for the team? Coz from my (comfy
) vantage point, I sure can't see it.Come on Grammy, you are way better than all this crap, and you can do way better. Go Grammy!
... rant over, I'll try and get back on my tucker now.
- I think he is also playing pretty well and doesn't need to initiate body on body contact every time he gets the ball - I think he wins a good share of his one on one contests
