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Re: Nice one Joey!

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Kernal75 wrote:DO we really want him or should he be floated around as trad bait........

Don't ask Dragit this as he will launch a personal attack on you if you have a different opinion to him.


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satchmo wrote:
kosifantutti wrote:The only relevant part was the first phrase "out of contract St Kilda midfielder Leigh Montagna" the rest was fluff.

Yes I seem to remember one Tony Locket saying something similar just before he buggered off. That is..a deals not done until it's done.
Joey won't be there next year, if he does'nt get security. He will need at least a two year contract or will walk to the highest bidder in Victoria.


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saints66 wrote:
satchmo wrote:
kosifantutti wrote:The only relevant part was the first phrase "out of contract St Kilda midfielder Leigh Montagna" the rest was fluff.

Yes I seem to remember one Tony Locket saying something similar just before he buggered off. That is..a deals not done until it's done.
Joey won't be there next year, if he does'nt get security. He will need at least a two year contract or will walk to the highest bidder in Victoria.
So you know he wont be offered 2 years?


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No I don't know what the Club will do just know that Joey, like most players his age, wants security and if the Club offeres him a one year extension then he will want to leave.


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saints66 wrote:No I don't know what the Club will do just know that Joey, like most players his age, wants security and if the Club offeres him a one year extension then he will want to leave.

Its just you said he wont be there so I thought you knew he was only offered one year.


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plugger66 wrote:
saints66 wrote:No I don't know what the Club will do just know that Joey, like most players his age, wants security and if the Club offeres him a one year extension then he will want to leave.

Its just you said he wont be there so I thought you knew he was only offered one year.

If he wants a 2 year extension he better start performing. Performance=extension. No one gets paid well without performing and so far this season his perfomances don't warrant the longer extension. We would be better off getting some decent picks for him but reckon he would be lucky to get the club a second round pick on his current form.


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Re: Nice one Joey!

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Joey deserves a 2 year deal, and he'll hopefully get one and do as he indicated in the article and stay a Saint for life..

he's been a great player for a long time, great example off the field, and has plenty more to give..

Is a little down on form at the moment, Im certain it wont last...

Is worth a 2 year term, at least..

All the hate for him is disgraceful IMO..


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Kernal75 wrote:or should he be floated around as trad bait........
Would he fit in?

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Re: Nice one Joey!

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saintkid wrote:
Kernal75 wrote:DO we really want him or should he be floated around as trad bait........

Don't ask Dragit this as he will launch a personal attack on you if you have a different opinion to him.
No personal attack needed as the notion is silly enough without too much deconstruction.

How do you think we could float him around… given he is an unrestricted free agent and choose to go wherever he likes without having to involve a trade?

I don't understand the logic in thinking that he is terrible, yet we could get decent picks for him anyway? Surely you can't get decent picks for a player who is over the hill and never any good in the first place?

How bad has he been really?
09/10 were obviously better but this year he's been solid without being amazing,

4th for possessions
6th for tackles & clearances
#1 for inside 50's

He's not Lenny Hayes, but he's still pretty handy… and I bet most clubs would love to have him


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I think that there is some good 'for' and 'against' in this thread. It's great that the culture at the club is cultivating such openly stated commitments by a player like Joey. Let's just hope that whatever deal is, or isnt done, that the club ends up with a player that is value for money.


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plugger66 wrote:
saints66 wrote:No I don't know what the Club will do just know that Joey, like most players his age, wants security and if the Club offeres him a one year extension then he will want to leave.

Its just you said he wont be there so I thought you knew he was only offered one year.
there is an "if" there Plugger


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Re: Nice one Joey!

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Club may not be so keen to sign him up, especially if he expects the same salary.


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SydneySainter wrote:Club may not be so keen to sign him up, especially if he expects the same salary.
Agreed, but since we are famously overpaying our stars at the moment and as a result in dire straights regarding the salary cap, he couldn't possibly expect the same coin again from us…

If he needs a large retirement fund then it will have to be at another club, same goes for any of our aging stars, however I don't begrudge anyone wanting their last paycheck to be big


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Re: Nice one Joey!

Post: # 1221142Post IluvHarvey »

I cannot believe this! Joey has been a great player for us for many years!
He is not an inside midfielder so why do people want him to be? If we had a full midfield of inside players who would they get it out to?
Some ridiculous comments here!
Personally I hope Joey stays! One year, two years or Three. He deserves it.


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