Cripps??

[kalsaint]

I don't think there would be many players playing AFL footy who 'dog' contests. I also think that Crippsy is also trying to work out his role in the side and let's not forget that Dal was very much an outside player for the first 5 or so years. Oh and just one other thing, he is and will alwYs be battling a disease that can affect his performance.
For what it's worth

I think this was insulin dependent Diabetes so the 1/2 footy matches of a sub might suit him at the moment until the club works out how he will go in the longer term.

[Con Gorozidis]

just watched the replay. cant understand why we are having a negative thread on cripps. only logical explanation is he shagged BMs daugher, sister or mrs. hes going well. set up our 2nd goal with a contest possie against nat jones who was the best player. 6 tackles. zero doggings.

[plugger66]

Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin on a players performance to try and justify some statements. cripps played ok on Saturday night but never squibbed it once. Also the coach hasnt made selection errors unless we know exactly why certain players are arent selected. What he has done is made different selections to what some on here want. That isnt a error, its a different opinion about how players are used and going. And to say it is costly is just crap unless we know how the replacements would go. Hindsight crap.

[Leo.J]

Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin on a players performance to try and justify some statements. cripps played ok on Saturday night but never squibbed it once. Also the coach hasnt made selection errors unless we know exactly why certain players are arent selected. What he has done is made different selections to what some on here want. That isnt a error, its a different opinion about how players are used and going. And to say it is costly is just crap unless we know how the replacements would go. Hindsight crap.

Agreed.

[MrCordz]

Cripp's disposal is a worry - don't think I've seen him hit a target in the forward line - not much control between the hand and foot when dropping the ball to kick on the run.

[saint6709]

I think there are better options at the moment - he needs to spend some time proving himself with Zebs - I like Sipposs & Ledger before Cripps and Scneids is hopefully back soon...

[Con Gorozidis]

Cripp's disposal is a worry - don't think I've seen him hit a target in the forward line - not much control between the hand and foot when dropping the ball to kick on the run.

he needs a little bit more composure and sometimes chucks it on for a tumble punt when he has more time. but if afl footy was that easy everyone would be doing it. takes most players a while to get composure and work out when they do and dont have time on the ball. 30-50 games in most cases.

[Richter]

Cripps is an outside player. For mine, a good role model for him would be Grammy. Gram is also an outside player, but he averages over 20 possessions a game.

Having said that, looking at his stats on footywire, Gram averaged under 10 a game for his first 9 games, before having his breakout game in round 1 of 2006 with 25 against the Eagles. (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-s ... ?year=2006)

EDIT: checked the stats again, in his 8th game against Brisbane in round 22, 2005 he had 19 possies, setting himself up for the next 4 seasons when he missed only 3 games, culminating in a best on ground performance in the '09 Granny.

[Old Mate]

I like Cripps I think he has some potential. However ATM he is fumbly and looks incredibly rushed whilst Siposs looks composed and ready to play AFL now. i realise we need to get AFL miles into Cripps however with a massive game coming up against the Hawks I think we need to play the bloke who looks more ready. Bring in Siposs please.

[bigred]

Has potential.

Is still at the stage of blind panic when he gets the ball.

There are blokes in the magoos that will....WILL take his spot.

[BigMart]

Gram played his first two seasons in Bribane

Hard for a teen to get a gig, when lappin, Johnson, Scott, power and co. Are taking a side to premierships.... First year he arrived at stk, we won ten straight.....

Cripps may improve, in reality he actually needs to....his output is not enough.

BTW
We have lost games, so things have gone wrong......

[skeptic]

Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin on a players performance to try and justify some statements. cripps played ok on Saturday night but never squibbed it once. Also the coach hasnt made selection errors unless we know exactly why certain players are arent selected. What he has done is made different selections to what some on here want. That isnt a error, its a different opinion about how players are used and going. And to say it is costly is just crap unless we know how the replacements would go. Hindsight crap.

by that logic
You can't really say BM is wrong either... just that his opinion is different as we don't know how the other players would have played

[Con Gorozidis]

Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin on a players performance to try and justify some statements. cripps played ok on Saturday night but never squibbed it once. Also the coach hasnt made selection errors unless we know exactly why certain players are arent selected. What he has done is made different selections to what some on here want. That isnt a error, its a different opinion about how players are used and going. And to say it is costly is just crap unless we know how the replacements would go. Hindsight crap.

by that logic
You can't really say BM is wrong either... just that his opinion is different as we don't know how the other players would have played

Im happy for BM to have an opinion and question cripps outout or whatever but he held an extremist position. like he was the worlds worst ever player and biggest squib which was not very constructive and plain wrong.

[plugger66]

Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin on a players performance to try and justify some statements. cripps played ok on Saturday night but never squibbed it once. Also the coach hasnt made selection errors unless we know exactly why certain players are arent selected. What he has done is made different selections to what some on here want. That isnt a error, its a different opinion about how players are used and going. And to say it is costly is just crap unless we know how the replacements would go. Hindsight crap.

by that logic
You can't really say BM is wrong either... just that his opinion is different as we don't know how the other players would have played

I will say anyone is wrong when they say he dogs it. Sorry but I dont think he dogs it. Dont think any AFL player dogs it. Terrible term. And the point of my post is the coach has the information and all the rest of us dont so I say they may not be wrong but they lack certain information to make an informed opinion. You can go with BM and say he dogs it and you can go with BM saying some selections have cost us dearly in the first 5 games. My loyalty is to people informed, yours can be to BM.

[skeptic]

I've never said any such thing... for the sake of winning an argument u continue to play the man. You're fixated of the term "dog it" and don't seem able to let it go. No ones calling cripps a coward, just some questions over his toughness at the contest over the first 5 rounds, and his ability to have an impact - a point that numerous ppl are concerned about

Again by your own logic... he's not wrong... opinion is just different

and I love the use of the word loyalty... wow interesting to see that criticism of the coach = disloyalty. I think you're an interesting person plugger.

Personally, minus the absince of ledger... I've not been too bothered by the coaching so far this season.

Also have to disagree with your assessment that we can't say things are wrong as we don't know the alternative outcomes. If you can anticipate a likely outcome before it happens ala Gram not being match fit for the 2010 GF or McQualter just plain not being effective as per his 15 previous games... u call it and it occurs well...

i can accept that obviously the coaching department are privvy to info that I am not and make their decisions for reasons not clear to us. Doesn't mean that I can't doubt that strategy based on what I am seeing.

Example... Reading inside the bubble. RL clearly favored players that gave 100% to their preparation... even if those players at times had injury concerns.

He did this because he was trying to create a Lenny Hayes type culture in regards to players training and it explained why some particular players frequently got games even though their form was not great.
Whilst u can respect what he was trying to do... it was something that hurt us to a degree in the short term (which is what every assures us RL was solely focused on) because he played several poorly performing players over a sustained period for nil positive effect and IMO cost us a flag.

you and SP go on about hindsight observations... I said then... McQualter would be ineffective in the 2010 GF and minus5 tackles in the 2nd half ( a contribution many are proud of!!!!) he was... as was an undefit fit Gram, a Gardiner who was nothing special all season, an ineffective Eddy and so forth

[gringo]

Cripps will be a good player long term and people have short memories when last year people questioned Lyon for not persevering with youth. I still remember young Lenny Hayes who I took a strong interest in because I was too tight to want to strip Winmar's number off my jumper. He didn't set the world on fire in his first real season but he steadily showed glimpses of the player he would be. Give these guys time, Cripps was a very highly rated player for a reason and will pay dividends in the long term just be happy with the incremental improvement.

[PJ]

Really don't think Cripps is doing that poorly

[whiskers3614]

I will say anyone is wrong when they say he dogs it. Sorry but I dont think he dogs it. Dont think any AFL player dogs it. Terrible term. And the point of my post is the coach has the information and all the rest of us dont so I say they may not be wrong but they lack certain information to make an informed opinion. You can go with BM and say he dogs it and you can go with BM saying some selections have cost us dearly in the first 5 games. My loyalty is to people informed, yours can be to BM.[/quote]

Reckon I saw Fiora pull out in his first or second game for Tigers, said so and got howled down by ex-wife (tigers fan)
Don't reckon his later career exactly proved me wrong!

[BigMart]

The great Glen Archer was asked why he played like he did without fear. He scoffed at it, and said every player at one time or another hesitates, and he said don't for one minute think I had to overcome fear. Really it's a mindset, can reflect poor judgement, poor decision making lack of confidence and not always lack of courage.

, as someone highlighted struggled with this very thing, yet did one of the most courageous things I have witnessed on a footy ground. Josh Hunt and Josh Fraser are celebrated head duckers.... There are numerous examples of players stopping or taking short steps.....if you think it never happens, your ignorant

I am not hanging Crippsy for stopping short in a couple of contests as an 18yo in a VFL game twenty yards from me, it happens..... What I do believe is he need to add more physicality to his game to succeed at AFL level, and he won't impact more on games unless he does..

All the crap about his size, age and experience is irrelevant, when really, it's just a mindset.... And he needs to work on it...

P66. I guess by your complete lack of knowledge on physical competitiveness indicates that you have never kicked a ball in anger. And why are you questioning my loyalty to a football team, is it because I questioned a coach and/or player..... That's my perogative as a supporter/member.... How can challenging persons within an organization somehow demonstrate lack of support or loyalty of that organization?? If I supported another club or wished failure upon the club I would be guilty of that..

But asking a player/coach to improve an aspect of his game, therefore improve results = disloyalty. Surely That's flawed logic??

[gringo]

Cool brother.

If people think he was great then fair enough. I was watching the Zebs game late at night and maybe I drifted off a bit after that 3rd quarter

As far as the first half goes it was Siposs, Dunnell and Freguson who really caught my eye.

Agree 100% with those 3 Doc. Really impressive. Can't explain the 3rd qtr though. Very strange.

Thought Ross was excellent as well in the first half, very smooth operator. Ledger didn't touch it until the last quarter where he got abot 10 clearances and probably set up the win.

I thought someone said Ross was a dud who won't make it?

[matrix]

will say anyone is wrong when they say he dogs it. Sorry but I dont think he dogs it



lol.


still cant see its all opinion based
but his opinion is correct


ya gotta laugh
and we do

[White Winmar]

Anyone heard how that kid, what's his name, Jack Darling's going? Oh that's right, we put a sh*tload of homework into him before "Smithers" Elshaug picked Cripps. Looking good now isn't it? Release the hounds! While I'm at it I'll do a crossover to the delistings post. First cab off the rank should be Smithers. Then hire a recruiting manager with qualifications and expertise. I'm sure they'll find Smithers another job down there . He's done just about everything else.