Ledger?

[BigMart]

I'd be gobsmacked if that's the case

[plugger66]

I'd be gobsmacked if that's the case

Why? This guy seems to have some sort of information and it makes some sort of sense.

[bergholt]

I'd be gobsmacked if that's the case

Why? This guy seems to have some sort of information and it makes some sort of sense.

i think in this case it's traditional to ask what his source is. and then if he can't produce signed and sealed proof, to discount everything he says, right?

[jonesy]

Cracked them about being made sub in Round 2, didn't train properly in the week following, so was dropped for Round 3. Is probably a bit too aware that he's the best of the kids coming through. I like the club's speedy response to this - hopefully will be the rocket he needs.

Are you saying this is what happened, or what you think might have happened?

No, this is definitely what happened.

But I wouldn't worry too much about him. It's very common - young player does well at lower level, gets a bit ahead of himself, gets slapped back down. Happens all the time, and I'm sure he'll be better for it.

I've been a bit perplexed for his exclusion,but if what you say is correct I'm fine with that

[saintgee]

Missed out completely on selection this time. Being a midfielder, he is going to have to be patient, there's no room for him at the moment.
Could well be attitude/training

[Quixote]

Always seems to take the mic off the older players when they're interviewing him for Saints TV. Dal normally just laughs and says "No take it mate!"

Also that joke he made about Newnes during the 1st year player inductions? Was not really audible, but drew quite the reaction from the players at the time.

These things have stuck in my mind I will say.

Thought at other times he's come across as really quite cluey. Let's hope he can work through this 'stage'.

[Bernard Shakey]

The bloke appears full of himself, thinks he's The Joker.

[The Redeemer]

Always seems to take the mic off the older players when they're interviewing him for Saints TV. Dal normally just laughs and says "No take it mate!"

Also that joke he made about Newnes during the 1st year player inductions? Was not really audible, but drew quite the reaction from the players at the time.

These things have stuck in my mind I will say.

Thought at other times he's come across as really quite cluey. Let's hope he can work through this 'stage'.

I was not going to mention it however through the minute offerings the club provides us he seems like a kid that is full of himself.

Like any workplace he will be slapped over the head sooner rather than later if this garbage continues.

[8856brother]

What a joke. Are you all serious? He's full of himself is he? Someone give us the real story please. Sick of all the theories. "he's too up himself" What is going on?

[plugger66]

What a joke. Are you all serious? He's full of himself is he? Someone give us the real story please. Sick of all the theories. "he's too up himself" What is going on?

I think someone in this thread told us why. No one else is going to know so I would go with him.

[Spinner]

Always seems to take the mic off the older players when they're interviewing him for Saints TV. Dal normally just laughs and says "No take it mate!"

Also that joke he made about Newnes during the 1st year player inductions? Was not really audible, but drew quite the reaction from the players at the time.

These things have stuck in my mind I will say.

Thought at other times he's come across as really quite cluey. Let's hope he can work through this 'stage'.

What was the joke?

[clarky449]

Shame, really like seeing him play.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

If this is true then hopefully he'll come out of this even better and more mature. Hopefully it will be like the wake up call Stevie J got at Geelong a few years ago, for instance.

[Middo]

The bloke appears full of himself, thinks he's The Joker.

No doubt you see alot of this at training with the boys or just a perception you get from the TV ...? FFS Dont care if he's the Riddler just needs to play as he's our best kid and in time he will prove it !!

[Bernard Shakey]

The bloke appears full of himself, thinks he's The Joker.

No doubt you see alot of this at training with the boys or just a perception you get from the TV ...? FFS Dont care if he's the Riddler just needs to play as he's our best kid and in time he will prove it !!

Something I've noticed for over a year. He'll get over it and be the great footballer he's capable of being.

[Sick Nal Danto]

If he's full of himself than what's Milney ?

[saintgee]

This "full of himself" stuff is nonsense. He proved in NAB Cup that he CAN play, all we want to know is what is holding them back giving him a go. Perhaps he'll have to wait for injuries to others as the season goes on to get an opportunity

[plugger66]

If he's full of himself than what's Milney ?

Milney is far rom a bighead. He is very down to earth. And he has 240 more games on Ledger.

[saintspremiers]

If he has to pull his head in to get a game then that's what he'll do.

If he is a character with a bit of a voice then that's a great thing long term.

Makings of a great player IMO.

[Teflon]

If he has to pull his head in to get a game then that's what he'll do.

If he is a character with a bit of a voice then that's a great thing long term.

Makings of a great player IMO.

Hayes is a great player.........never had to pull his head in.

IF this is the case then ok, let him pull his head in.......but lets not leave it to long..its been 3 games surely hes deserved a game in that time...

[Richter]

If he has to pull his head in to get a game then that's what he'll do.

If he is a character with a bit of a voice then that's a great thing long term.

Makings of a great player IMO.

Hayes is a great player.........never had to pull his head in.

IF this is the case then ok, let him pull his head in.......but lets not leave it to long..its been 3 games surely hes deserved a game in that time...

This.

Heck a bit of youthful enthusiasm doesn't go amiss. Showed plenty in his first 10 minutes against the Dogs... perplexing...

[SainterK]

The bloke appears full of himself, thinks he's The Joker.

I don't care if players have ego if they can back it up.

Bit of swagger sometimes isn't a bad thing.

[Gos]

Saints lacked outside leg speed and longer kicking tonight. Surprised at all the guesswork above. Hayes is a fan I understand Laidley is the midfield coach I think so he'd have a fair say. Of course Laidley did such an outstanding job at Port last year (not) . The Port young guys seem invigorated with him gone this year. Anyway just a game. Who really knows ?

[dcstkfc]

The bloke appears full of himself, thinks he's The Joker.

I see what you did there