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Goddard should be captain
rooey is yesterdays news and we need to forget about him
MASSIVE SELECTION MISTAKE NOT PICKING A PLAYER THAT MAY TAKE A CONTESTED MARK INSIDE 50 Beau Wilkes AAAAANNNNNDDDDD where the f*** is Ledger. He wins contested ball, he is the future and if they had both played we would have won by a coule of goals today
Sainternist wrote:Thought Roo was amongst our five better players.
that really surprised me, though he did get better as the game wore on. Very propy - watched him today from close proximity and it was not encouraging.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
11 years at CHF. no CHF ever lasts that long. Hes gone. He was gone last year in actuality.
Sad but thats life. Club legend.
I think your point about 11 years at CHF is correct. Read an article last year about Brereton and Carey both being pretty much finished at the corresponding age/number of games played as Riewoldt halfway through last season. The body takes too much of a battering at CHF.
He is one of the reasons we're not the forcce we once were. Let's face it, he was THAT good that he often transformed games on his own, and many didn't even realise. If we needed a get out kick from the backline Roo was there. If we needed lead up fwd it was Roo. He would draw so many players that it would open up for the others.
His balance just isn't what it was. I suspect that this may have something to do with his knee. He seems to lose his feet far easier, and as others have noted, always seems to slowly rise to his feet once crunched. It struck me tonight as I watching the game, how much more brutal the game appears every year. Also, he just isn't getting separation on his opponents on the lead anymore. This means almost every marking attempt his opponents get another opportunity to crunch him, whether he marks it or not.
Still a very good footballer, and if it wasn't Roo we were talking about, then we would be giving him a pass mark on today's effort. 2 goals and 1/2 dozen marks isn't poor for a CHF. He just doesn't seem to impact games like he used to though. I recall in the 05 Qualifying final in the pouring rain he was magnificent. Only had a dozen possessions, but changed the complexion of the game on his own. Ppl talk about Harves in that game (and rightly so) but Roo was nearly as important. That summed him up to me.
I wouldn't throw him to CHB. The backline needs to be taught. He's not terrific in the one on ones, so we wouldn't be best using his attributes I reckon. Playing on Cloke or Buddy he would get carved up for either strength or speed (depending which he was playing on) and we would be robbing a still reliable target up forward. No, as a team we just need to adjust and others have to step up.
andrewg wrote:Goddard should be captain
rooey is yesterdays news and we need to forget about him
MASSIVE SELECTION MISTAKE NOT PICKING A PLAYER THAT MAY TAKE A CONTESTED MARK INSIDE 50 Beau Wilkes AAAAANNNNNDDDDD where the f*** is Ledger. He wins contested ball, he is the future and if they had both played we would have won by a coule of goals today
I dont reckon Goddard should be captain. I just dont like his attitude. Especially when we are losing.
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Like Ponting, Fenech, Ian Thorpe and Michael Schumacher......he is now a former champion.....
He was getting beaten with ease today and whilst his typical 100% effort is admirable, he looks like a battered and beaten man
He moves like a super rules player, gee he'd be handy in my team.....
Agree. It's hard to watch him getting knocked off the ball and beaten beaten by ordinary players. It was acommen occurance last year.
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I would sit him out on a wing and get him away from the battering let him have a bit of a run in a good paddock still jag some goals while Wilkes or Archer go and take the punishment minus an a defender.
gringo wrote:I would sit him out on a wing and get him away from the battering let him have a bit of a run in a good paddock still jag some goals while Wilkes or Archer go and take the punishment minus an a defender.
C'mon Gringo - he doesn't gat paid nearly a million a year to float around on the wing. Did you see Wilkes play fwd in the practise matches? The games I saw he was monstered. Roo isn't his former self, but most times provides a target and a contest. He's still our best key fwd, (which isn't saying a lot) Without Roo there we wouldn't even be competitive. We were a decent outfit in 2010, but really struggled without him in the team when he was injured. Now we would be bottom 4.
SainterK wrote:I so want him deep FF, Goddard CHF.
He's not a stay home contested FF never has been never will be . ALL his best footy was on lead where he simply blew his opponents up and could get a yard on them. Right now with the changing game and no space to lead to and his dodgy knees he cant do that. IF he sat in the goal square he'd be monstered for mine.Thats a Kosi job and he kicked 3 today....maybe even Wilkes get a go there at times.
Riewoldts best bet is to run back into fwd 50from centre wing or CHB imo.
gringo wrote:I would sit him out on a wing and get him away from the battering let him have a bit of a run in a good paddock still jag some goals while Wilkes or Archer go and take the punishment minus an a defender.
C'mon Gringo - he doesn't gat paid nearly a million a year to float around on the wing. Did you see Wilkes play fwd in the practise matches? The games I saw he was monstered. Roo isn't his former self, but most times provides a target and a contest. He's still our best key fwd, (which isn't saying a lot) Without Roo there we wouldn't even be competitive. We were a decent outfit in 2010, but really struggled without him in the team when he was injured. Now we would be bottom 4.
In 2010 without him we became unpredictable and started to score because of this.
IMO we have "st kilda forward-itis" a standard condition at St Kilda since before Lockett days where we place ALL our scoring hope on the great white FF.......needs to change, particularly given our current great white hope is hobbling.
He's not going to be the dominant player that won so many B&Fs and we need to stop forcing him to play the same role as he did then. Roo used to have two huge roles; he was the link coming out of defence and he was the contested-marking inside 50 forward target. Due to his ridiculous hard running he could play both roles brilliantly, but I think he needs to pick one role and stick with that. Either focus on running and have him as a link-player on the wing or have him bulk up and leave him in the forward line for short, sharp leads. His body won't let him do both anymore, but I think he could still be quite effective at one of those roles. If he keeps trying to do both then we'll keep on kicking to an exhausted, overworked cripple every time we try going forward.
It really is a shame that he suffered serious injuries at the start of the '05 and '10 seasons when he started both looking like the most dominant player of our era.
gringo wrote:I would sit him out on a wing and get him away from the battering let him have a bit of a run in a good paddock still jag some goals while Wilkes or Archer go and take the punishment minus an a defender.
C'mon Gringo - he doesn't gat paid nearly a million a year to float around on the wing. Did you see Wilkes play fwd in the practise matches? The games I saw he was monstered. Roo isn't his former self, but most times provides a target and a contest. He's still our best key fwd, (which isn't saying a lot) Without Roo there we wouldn't even be competitive. We were a decent outfit in 2010, but really struggled without him in the team when he was injured. Now we would be bottom 4.
He gets paid that million for the player he was, not the player he is now.
The club has to put players in the best positions for the team regardless of their pay.
Then as a separate exercise rearrange the player payments to reflect players actual value to the club.
Without him or with him on today's match we ARE bottom 4.
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If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
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