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Post: # 1188085Post bozza1980 »

Sick Nal Danto wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
I have us finishing about 6th or 7th, but once you're in the finals, anything can happen.
I hate that line, people say that every year, but it is quite obvious that the finals are designed for the 1 of the top 3 to win

So anything but a top 4 finish will make it very hard to win the premiership
So, you are saying if you finish top 3, anything can happen??


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Post: # 1188098Post gringo »

bozza1980 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
I have us finishing about 6th or 7th, but once you're in the finals, anything can happen.
I hate that line, people say that every year, but it is quite obvious that the finals are designed for the 1 of the top 3 to win

So anything but a top 4 finish will make it very hard to win the premiership
So, you are saying if you finish top 3, anything can happen??
I wish someone had told Adelaide in 97.


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Post: # 1188104Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:
bozza1980 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
I have us finishing about 6th or 7th, but once you're in the finals, anything can happen.
I hate that line, people say that every year, but it is quite obvious that the finals are designed for the 1 of the top 3 to win

So anything but a top 4 finish will make it very hard to win the premiership
So, you are saying if you finish top 3, anything can happen??
I wish someone had told Adelaide in 97.
Completely different system now.


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Post: # 1188408Post gringo »

plugger66 wrote:
gringo wrote:
bozza1980 wrote:
Sick Nal Danto wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
I have us finishing about 6th or 7th, but once you're in the finals, anything can happen.
I hate that line, people say that every year, but it is quite obvious that the finals are designed for the 1 of the top 3 to win

So anything but a top 4 finish will make it very hard to win the premiership
So, you are saying if you finish top 3, anything can happen??
I wish someone had told Adelaide in 97.
Completely different system now.
I know back then you didn't need to win games to advance? Completely different? It has always been hard to win a GF from outside the top few teams but nothing is impossible, just less likely. We should give up if we find out we can only finish 6th -there's no point then.


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Post: # 1188441Post ralphsmith »

I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.


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Post: # 1188442Post SaintPav »

ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
Well you're a barrel of laughs. Would love to spend a New Years with you...

YA BRINGING ME DOWN...


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Post: # 1188444Post PJ »

ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?


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Post: # 1188445Post saintspremiers »

Anyone who thinks you have a chance to win the flag from possies 5 to 8 is seriously deluded.

For me, I'd be rapt if we were good enough to make the prelims this year.


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Post: # 1188446Post saintspremiers »

PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.


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Post: # 1188454Post clarky449 »

saintspremiers wrote:
PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.
This, people seem to hate it when we say we arent going to win the Grand Final..


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Post: # 1188457Post PJ »

saintspremiers wrote:
PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.
Read the post again and tellme where there is anything positive other than Goddard is Godly?


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Post: # 1188458Post PJ »

clarky449 wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.
This, people seem to hate it when we say we arent going to win the Grand Final..
Where have I said anything other than it's a negative doom and gloom post - where have I said anything about Grandfinals. What a motherless post - you really contribute alot don't you?


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Post: # 1188473Post clarky449 »

PJ wrote:
clarky449 wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.
This, people seem to hate it when we say we arent going to win the Grand Final..
Where have I said anything other than it's a negative doom and gloom post - where have I said anything about Grandfinals. What a motherless post - you really contribute alot don't you?
Im sorry, you are? I dont believe i used the word "PJ". It is not all about you, and their is a reason for that. I contribute "football intelligence" something that lacks on this site with poster's like you.


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Post: # 1188514Post matrix »

get over ya self
he has the same right to say something stupid/opinionated as much as you do

apparently we're f***ed unless supper GODdard can play 15 positions

they're
their
there

eenie meanie miney mo huh?
no f****** intelligence there


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Post: # 1188520Post PJ »

clarky449 wrote:
PJ wrote:
clarky449 wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
PJ wrote:
ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.
So let me guess you're a motivational speaker?
No he's just being realistic in his assessment.

He states we won't win the flag this year. That's not too outlandish a statement.

He doesn't say we are bottom eight material either.
This, people seem to hate it when we say we arent going to win the Grand Final..
Where have I said anything other than it's a negative doom and gloom post - where have I said anything about Grandfinals. What a motherless post - you really contribute alot don't you?
Im sorry, you are? I dont believe i used the word "PJ". It is not all about you, and their is a reason for that. I contribute "football intelligence" something that lacks on this site with poster's like you.
football intelligence? get over yourself, owning a computor doesn't amount to intelligance.


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Post: # 1188521Post Johnny Favier »

ralphsmith wrote:I feel it will be a sad to year to behold.

Riewoldt will really be a "beyond it" player this year. Just a little too old and the body too ruined from years of great service.

Kosi will continue to never reach his ultimate potential.

Dal Santo will still be good but older and slower.

Montagna will drop off sharply in his twilight.

Goddard will still be godly.


But it's just not enough to win a grand final.

These players will not go UP A GEAR and but continue to offer "she'll be right" performances every now and then.

Gwilt
Gilbert
Clarke
Ray

I have no faith in our youth. Our club simply can't draft magical players anymore. Remember the original Nicky Winmar...magical. Tony Locket..magical. Robert Harvey...magical.

Can't say I agree with all of that - if we were still under Lyon, then I'd say yes, more likely.

Roo we will have to wait and see.

Kosi seems to be better since shedding a few kilos and under a new coach with a different approach who knows what these two may be able to contribute.

Dal is 28 this year and Joey 29 - hardly in the twilight of their careers just yet.

Gwilt was one of our most consistent players along with Dempster until he went down with his knee. If he can get back to around that level on his return, then we'll be doing alright I think.

Gilbert, Clarke and Ray could all benefit with a shot of confidence, which I have a feeling Watters may be able to provide.

I think we have a good bunch of kids coming through, but the bulk of these need more senior time to go to the next level - another thing that Watters is reportedly good at developing, so who knows?

I'm not saying we're going to make the GF or that you're wrong or I'm right, but I feel all is not quite so gloomy as you're suggesting...



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Post: # 1188531Post SMS »

dal and monty are 28/29 ... yeah over the HILL!~ hahaha

seriously what the hell man?

Carey, stevens and Archer were all 28/29 in 1999

and they boozed on every week!


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Post: # 1188660Post Con Gorozidis »

centrebet has us 6th favourite ($17) which means they expect us to be better than we were last year.

i think 2011 was a shocker. with a bit of luck we can be top 4 again.

2014 we will be bad. but we have a year or 2 at the top i reckon.


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