I guess you have never had your skull fracturedBernard Shakey wrote:About farking time. Why has it taken him ten years?
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No, I haven't. Are you saying that's his excuse? He was drafted in 2000, cracked his skull in 2006, it's now 2012. There's a lot of years he's done F*** all.Devilhead wrote:I guess you have never had your skull fracturedBernard Shakey wrote:About farking time. Why has it taken him ten years?
Back on topic let's hope Nicholas can put it all together this year.
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Boy this thread has gone in several odd directions since I last logged on.
I know I'm stereotyping here to a degree but it's my impression that generally most indigenous players tend to be more explosive players rather than power KPP if that makes sense.
Going into the modern AFL, with the increased workloads, my impression is (and I'm happy to admit I know SFA) that for most Indigenous players, you want to be working on their agility, endurance and the muscles that work with more explosive movements e.g. sudden sprinting, jumping etc
I wonder if perhaps we're training our more recent Indigenous players to be more muscle bound and stronger... which in turn is resulting in more lower body tears when they try to do those explosive things.
Raph Clarke for example to me was drafted as a running flanker/rotating mid rather than a key position mid which is what we've turned him into. As a result he's lost some agility and a yard of pace due to frequent soft tissue injuries... not to mention those shoulder injuries at the start of his career when perhaps he was playing too quick
I know I'm stereotyping here to a degree but it's my impression that generally most indigenous players tend to be more explosive players rather than power KPP if that makes sense.
Going into the modern AFL, with the increased workloads, my impression is (and I'm happy to admit I know SFA) that for most Indigenous players, you want to be working on their agility, endurance and the muscles that work with more explosive movements e.g. sudden sprinting, jumping etc
I wonder if perhaps we're training our more recent Indigenous players to be more muscle bound and stronger... which in turn is resulting in more lower body tears when they try to do those explosive things.
Raph Clarke for example to me was drafted as a running flanker/rotating mid rather than a key position mid which is what we've turned him into. As a result he's lost some agility and a yard of pace due to frequent soft tissue injuries... not to mention those shoulder injuries at the start of his career when perhaps he was playing too quick
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Who cares? As long as he's doing it now.Bernard Shakey wrote:About farking time. Why has it taken him ten years?
You haven't EVER acknowledged his good games - only ever stated that it was about time. I'm no Kosi lover, but it's obvious to all and sundry that you and St Dooley will NEVER acknowledge anything good that Kosi does. Kosi is no world beater, but over time he has proven valuable enough, and there definitely isn't any players that have come along that have been good enough to dislodge him.
Collision injuries/degenerative injuries cannot be helped.....condition injuries can be.....
Nicholas has not got his body right for AFL footy ATM and both Clarkes never did, although Xaviers two recos were just bad luck.....
Kosi (back) and Ball (groin) were condition injuries from overload so in effect the opposite of laziness or lack of condition, but too high a workload for a young body.....what may happen to Mac
Armitage is an excellent trainer, contrary reports are inaccurate....did not look after himself of the track well enough early doors, but his application on it is excellent.
Nicholas has not got his body right for AFL footy ATM and both Clarkes never did, although Xaviers two recos were just bad luck.....
Kosi (back) and Ball (groin) were condition injuries from overload so in effect the opposite of laziness or lack of condition, but too high a workload for a young body.....what may happen to Mac
Armitage is an excellent trainer, contrary reports are inaccurate....did not look after himself of the track well enough early doors, but his application on it is excellent.
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I have not posted on here, or about Kosi for a bit of time now. Dont start bringing me back into all this s***.Moods wrote:Who cares? As long as he's doing it now.Bernard Shakey wrote:About farking time. Why has it taken him ten years?
You haven't EVER acknowledged his good games - only ever stated that it was about time. I'm no Kosi lover, but it's obvious to all and sundry that you and St Dooley will NEVER acknowledge anything good that Kosi does. Kosi is no world beater, but over time he has proven valuable enough, and there definitely isn't any players that have come along that have been good enough to dislodge him.
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Re: It's about their work ethic !
WinnersOnly wrote:It's about their work ethic ! There is no way either Raph or X have prepared themselves well enough for AFL football. It is something that has taken Armitage a long time to come to grips with also. Winmar will take time to develop but whether he is worth persisting with I dont know.skeptic wrote:I just mean Raph is brittle and injury prone... X Clarke... enough said and now Winmar tooThe Fireman wrote:?? I would imagine every player would receive equal care...an odd thing to say.skeptic wrote:is it my imagination or do we seem to be terrible at managing the health of our indigenous players?
All really prone to soft tissue injuries
maybe our knowledge in this area is somewhat poor?
Don't mean to imply racial undertones
Its a shame clubs cant move players from the Senior list back to the rookie list, as he and Crocker I would move back to give them time to develop their bodies and reward a performing rookie players.
How do you know it was preparation are you a trainer at the club?