Rookie

[saintbrat]

Sauce Saintbrat.... That would mean all clubs are having three picks at least. is that the situation?

Patrick Keane- AFL Operations manager Twitter.

AFL has completed review of each club Total Player Payment (TPP) estimates for 2012 season in lead-up to NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft next Tues
AFL has determined that six teams are eligible to participate in the Pre-Season Draft.
Selection order is 1 – GWS; 2 - GWS; 3 - GWS; 4 - GWS; 5 - GWS; 6 - GWS; 7 - Suns; 8 - Power; 9 - Tigers; 10 - Dockers; 11 - Bulldogs.

AFL_PKeanePatrick Keane
2011 NAB AFL Rookie Draft, to be held next Tuesday Dec 13, will feature a total of 95 selections. Club selections will be as follows:
Sydney Swans nine rookie draft picks - 13, 31, 49, 66, 80, 86, 91, 93, 95. W Coast (4) - 15, 33, 51, 68. W Bulldogs (5) - 9, 27, 45, 62, 76.
Port Adelaide three rookie draft picks - 3, 21, 39. Richmond (7) - 7, 25, 43, 60, 74, 84, 90. St Kilda (5) - 12, 30, 48, 65, 79.
Hawthorn four rookie draft picks - 16, 34, 52, 69. Melbourne (4) - 6, 24, 42, 59. North Melbourne (5) - 10, 28, 46, 63, 77.
Geelong Cats three rookie draft picks - 18, 36, 54. GC Suns (9) - 2, 20, 38, 56, 72, 82, 88, 92, 94. GWS Giants (5) - 1, 19, 37, 55, 71.
Collingwood six rookie draft picks - 17, 35, 53, 70, 81, 87. Essendon (6) - 11, 29, 47, 64, 78, 85. Fremantle (5) - 8, 26, 44, 61, 75.
Adelaide seven rookie draft picks - 5, 23, 41, 58, 73, 83, 89. Brisbane (4) - 4, 22, 40, 57. Carlton (4) - 14, 32, 50, 67.

[bergholt]

Sauce Saintbrat.... That would mean all clubs are having three picks at least. is that the situation?

looks like we could take up to five, thanks sb.

but also judging from that there are 98 total rookie picks possible. 98! so i wouldn't be surprised if a few clubs failed to take all they've got space for, including the saints.

[Richter]

When is the wookie draft?

It's just before the Sookie Draft
g]

No, this year the AFL are having all 3 drafts at the same time... and they're dishing out free tea and biscuits.... apparently they're calling it the rookie wookie sookie with cookies draft.

[Armoooo]

I'm hearing whispers that saints are looking very likely to pick up Subiaco player Kyal Horsley.

He is a 24 year old mature midfielder, been likened to Matthew Priddis but less effective in the heavy stuff but a bit cleaner when in the open.


http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/1935

Important to note that Watters brought him to Subiaco so he has seen plenty of him. If the club head in this direction I certainly wouldn't complain, I haven't seen any live footage of him, so I can't really make a call either way but I wouldn't mind us giving him a chance, could be this years Barlow.

[Rosco]

Subi B&F this year too. Is 88kg too heavy for a 182cm player?

[Bardon Saint]

rumour has it (various sources on the internet - believe what you will) that Collingwood have shown big interest in Horsley. Lots of forum talk and Phantom draft selections.

He sounds like a handy player although I'd probably select one of Magner or Horsley as they seem a little similar??

[defacto]

what about sandilands younger brother as a potential ruck project

[WinnersOnly]

I'm hearing whispers that saints are looking very likely to pick up Subiaco player Kyal Horsley.

He is a 24 year old mature midfielder, been likened to Matthew Priddis but less effective in the heavy stuff but a bit cleaner when in the open.


http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/1935

Important to note that Watters brought him to Subiaco so he has seen plenty of him. If the club head in this direction I certainly wouldn't complain, I haven't seen any live footage of him, so I can't really make a call either way but I wouldn't mind us giving him a chance, could be this years Barlow.

Hope your are right - Armoooo! If we were to take him I think we will have to pull the trigger early rather than a later choice.

[WinnersOnly]

I think we still need to add some (mid range) aged players to our list and another mature ruckman is must if the Saints are taking 2012 seriously.

# 12 Kyal Horsely / Marcus Marigliani = Strong midfielder
# 30 Julian Dobosz / Nic Murphy = Full forward
# 48 Jai Sheehan / Xavier Richards = KPP defender
# 65 Daniel Hughes / Lee Spurr = HFF
# 79 Daniel Currie / Broc McAuley = Ruckman

I dont believe the Saints see Kosi or Stanley as a No. 1 ruckman proposition if McEvoy goes down.

[MCG-Unit]

I'm hearing whispers that saints are looking very likely to pick up Subiaco player Kyal Horsley.

He is a 24 year old mature midfielder, been likened to Matthew Priddis but less effective in the heavy stuff but a bit cleaner when in the open.


http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/1935

Important to note that Watters brought him to Subiaco so he has seen plenty of him. If the club head in this direction I certainly wouldn't complain, I haven't seen any live footage of him, so I can't really make a call either way but I wouldn't mind us giving him a chance, could be this years Barlow.

I would be very pleased with Horsley, they need another inside mid. Another mature age WAFL player Watters rates is Jason Salecic.....
Braden O'Hara, Central Districts, mature age mid/HB, is similar to Horsley if he is taken before their pick

[ace]

AFL has completed review of each club Total Player Payment (TPP) estimates for 2012 season in lead-up to NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft next Tues
AFL has determined that six teams are eligible to participate in the Pre-Season Draft.
Selection order is 1 – GWS; 2 - GWS; 3 - GWS; 4 - GWS; 5 - GWS; 6 - GWS; 7 - Suns; 8 - Power; 9 - Tigers; 10 - Dockers; 11 - Bulldogs

The practical implication of GWS getting 5 priority picks in the Pre-Season Draft is that they get to look over the players left after the National Draft and select 5 priority ROOKIES.
But these guys will added to the senior list, get paid as senior players and have those salaries count against the salary cap.
That salary cap will not be an issue as it is vastly more than established clubs and they used their national draft picks to draft kids rather than trade for more expensive experienced players.

[ace]

If St Kilda had the money in the salary cap that 5th rookie selection could have been a Pre Season Draft pick.
Maybe even 2 if Archer is still a rookie.

With more than 2 players eligible for veterans status the club could have had 2 veterans outside the list leaving 2 vacancies on the senior list.
One of these may or may not be occupied by Archer.
He is still shown as a senior listed player but was not upgraded in the National Draft so could be a rookie temporarily upgraded only.

The club will be able to nominate 2 rookies eligible for senior selection if Archer is indeed still a rookie, otherwise only one.

[SaintSimmo]

I think we still need to add some (mid range) aged players to our list and another mature ruckman is must if the Saints are taking 2012 seriously.

# 12 Kyal Horsely / Marcus Marigliani = Strong midfielder
# 30 Julian Dobosz / Nic Murphy = Full forward
# 48 Jai Sheehan / Xavier Richards = KPP defender
# 65 Daniel Hughes / Lee Spurr = HFF
# 79 Daniel Currie / Broc McAuley = Ruckman

I dont believe the Saints see Kosi or Stanley as a No. 1 ruckman proposition if McEvoy goes down.

In bold is who I would select out of your two options if both players are available.
But isn't Jai Sheehan a key forward not a defender?

[stkildathunda]

St Kilda Football Club (Facebook)
The Saints will use their first four round picks which are numbers 12, 30, 48 and 65.

[borderbarry]

Dobosz wont last to pick 30. Dont forget 17 other clubs are picking also. Maybe we should be using our second or third picks on a ruckman. Wont be much left by round 5. Might be a plan to revisit the Territory for a pick.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

what about sandilands younger brother as a potential ruck project

don't think so he's not that great .. If he had a different surname he would not be under consideration by fans ...

Horsley is defiantly going to be picked up by someone either us collingwood essendon or Freo will pick him ... Also have a feelin Mark Hutchings will be picked up by a Vic club

[Scollop]

What do you think of Jack Crisp?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/e ... 6191970536

[Gershwin]

What do you think of Jack Crisp?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/e ... 6191970536

Got to be a big chance as he is training with us so we will get a good look at him.