So what did Bakes actually do to Farmer?

The Redeemer · Wed 07 Dec 2011 2:14am

5 score years ago a few posters on here stated that they would reveal what Baker did to Farmer once he had retired.

Now it is time to reveal....

Con Gorozidis · Wed 07 Dec 2011 3:11am

Mr Redeemer - clarly you have not been drinking enough on your international sojourn. Im really disappointed in your good to excellent memory. Your sobriety saddens me.

Verdun66 · Post: # 1181057Post **Verdun66** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 3:24am

It's probably that 'moment of clarity' they talk about..........

ace · Post: # 1181061Post **ace** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 5:51am

Baker took Farmer's wheat to Miller who made it into flour.
Then Baker took the flour and made it into bread.

Baker refused to share the bread with Demetriou so he was suspended.
Demetriou said "I am God. Everyone should share bread with me"

HitTheBoundary · Wed 07 Dec 2011 8:49am

ace wrote:Baker took Farmer's wheat to Miller who made it into flour.
Then Baker took the flour and made it into bread.

Baker refused to share the bread with Demetriou so he was suspended.
Demetriou said "I am God. Everyone should share bread with me"

From this point on, Baker was toast.

Thinline · Post: # 1181074Post **Thinline** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:17am

On game eve Stevie B dined heartily on Burger Lounge's jalapeno heavy Ring of Fire offering.

The outcome was inevitable.

Farmer was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The rest is history.

matrix · Post: # 1181075Post **matrix** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:21am

did he stop and prop and backwards headbutt him??

Moolie · Post: # 1181076Post **Moolie** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:32am

5 score?

Was it really that long ago?

Gabba · Post: # 1181077Post **Gabba** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:53am

Moolie wrote:5 score?

Was it really that long ago?

I swear I haven't been viewing this site for 100 years!

St Lenny · Post: # 1181078Post **St Lenny** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:59am

Guilty your honour, if innocent why would people not say so at the time.

plugger66 · Post: # 1181138Post **plugger66** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 3:20pm

matrix wrote:did he stop and prop and backwards headbutt him??

Pretty much.

BakesFan · Post: # 1181255Post **BakesFan** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 9:20pm

I spoke to Bakes on the Gold Coast in December '08..Saints were up for a training camp/meet & greet (Saint Bev and the SEQ Saints did a great job of organising the Fan function).....

I asked Bakes if he felt hard done by over the penalty dished out to him after the "Farmer Incident".....

... He said, "Mate, I was lucky. If there'd been any video, I'd have never played again"

Make of that what you will........ but Bakes would be my 1st choice beside me in the trenches.

SaintPav · Post: # 1181285Post **SaintPav** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:12pm

BakesFan wrote:I spoke to Bakes on the Gold Coast in December '08..Saints were up for a training camp/meet & greet (Saint Bev and the SEQ Saints did a great job of organising the Fan function).....

I asked Bakes if he felt hard done by over the penalty dished out to him after the "Farmer Incident".....

... He said, "Mate, I was lucky. If there'd been any video, I'd have never played again"

Make of that what you will........ but Bakes would be my 1st choice beside me in the trenches.

Did anyone actually see it? I was sitting behind the goals on level two and had a pefect view if I was looking.

jonesy · Post: # 1181288Post **jonesy** » Wed 07 Dec 2011 10:18pm

Someone in high places obviously saw it. Was fortunate to only get the 7,but they wacked him with the Stevie J farce to make up for it 3 years down the track...

The Redeemer · Wed 07 Dec 2011 11:32pm

plugger66 wrote:
matrix wrote:did he stop and prop and backwards headbutt him??
Pretty much.

The reason I brought this up was that a few forum members knew exactly what had happened and were sworn to secrecy somehow. Hence why I am asking now considering Baker is no longer at the football club.

I guessed what had happened however I didn't want to rush to a conclusion despite kind of knowing what he did.

In an aside he really was screwed over by the Tribunal in 09 for the Stevie J smackfest. Considering Johnson received 4 weeks with minimal (if any) loading it makes sense due to Baker's previous history and subsequent loading.

Armoooo · Post: # 1181296Post **Armoooo** » Thu 08 Dec 2011 12:07am

I was at the game and I saw it (admittedly from the third level)

I argued his innocence very strongly at the time because I saw him run, then stop and Farmer ran into the back of him. It looked to me as Farmer was trying to belt Baker and didn't expect him to stop so quickly.

Very surprised to hear that Baker said he thought he'd get suspended for life, there must have been a more pronounced headbutt than it seemed lke from the third level.

meher baba · Thu 08 Dec 2011 1:55am

Armoooo wrote:Very surprised to hear that Baker said he thought he'd get suspended for life, there must have been a more pronounced headbutt than it seemed lke from the third level.

It's surely possible that Bakes was being a bit facetious. The guy was given a ridiculously hard time by the tribunal.

I doubt that a video would show all that much. If both players were running at speed and Bakes stopped suddenly and backward headbutted Farmer, it still wouldn't look as bad as punch to the head.

All the media insinuations at the time (eg, bloody Tim Lane) were rlthat Bakes had deliberately hit an unsuspecting Farmer in the face behind play. The absence of a video made it seem all the more sinister.

The AFL had it in for Baker because of his (mostly) legal, highly effective tagging. And possibly even because he was close to GT (Demetriou's hatred of GT is childish in the extreme and belies the concept that Demetriou is a good administrator).

fingers · Post: # 1181314Post **fingers** » Thu 08 Dec 2011 8:05am

Gabba wrote:
Moolie wrote:5 score?

Was it really that long ago?
I swear I haven't been viewing this site for 100 years!

YOu were but the site was on a couple of slate tablets back then. It was slower but we didnt have the double post problem.

SaintPav · Post: # 1181368Post **SaintPav** » Thu 08 Dec 2011 3:05pm

BakesFan wrote:I spoke to Bakes on the Gold Coast in December '08..Saints were up for a training camp/meet & greet (Saint Bev and the SEQ Saints did a great job of organising the Fan function).....

I asked Bakes if he felt hard done by over the penalty dished out to him after the "Farmer Incident".....

... He said, "Mate, I was lucky. If there'd been any video, I'd have never played again"

Make of that what you will........ but Bakes would be my 1st choice beside me in the trenches.

Bakes my be playing it up a bit. He'd love it.

IluvHarvey · Thu 08 Dec 2011 4:08pm

Don't know what he did but it clearly wasn't enough!

Mr Magic · Post: # 1181394Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 08 Dec 2011 5:18pm

Bakes was terribly hard done by.

He should never have even been before the Tribunal for this one.

The whole tribunal case was called on teh statement given to the AFL investigator by a Freo trainer.

When questioned by Bakes' counsel he admitted that he actually didn't see the incident.

Insted of stopping questioning the trainer and demanding the hearing be immediately thrown out, the counsel mistakenly (imo) continued trying to defend Bakes.
The case should have stopped there and then because it was convened on a falsehood - the eyewiness testimony of the Freo trainer who admitted he didn't see the incident.
A technicality of course, but that's the right of all accused.

I have absolutely no idea what treanspired out on the field - I didn't see it.
But Bakes' version, whilst it may well be true, always sounded implausible to me.
Unless it was Kosi who was running behind him and didn't see him stop.

st_Trav_ofWA · Thu 08 Dec 2011 7:22pm

it was jeff farmer !!! if ever a player was deserving of getting a Baker special it was that little turd !!

Bono · Post: # 1181912Post **Bono** » Sun 11 Dec 2011 7:57am

Ask the then footy club manager. He was the one who tipped the bucket on baker at the tribunal.