Anybody know what he's talking about?Fremantle recruit-in-waiting Zac Dawson says his strong relationship with ex-St Kilda coach Ross Lyon meant committing to the Dockers was an easy choice.......
.....Intriguingly, Dawson said the Saints' reduced offer, due to salary cap pressure, was not his sole reason for leaving.
He added he had no problem with new St Kilda coach Scott Watters, whom he met before making his decision.
"It was a few other things that I'd rather not talk about," Dawson said.
But, given the Saints gave him a second chance at an AFL career, he said he held more fond memories of the club than grudges.
Lyon a big drawcard for Freo-bound Dawson
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Lyon a big drawcard for Freo-bound Dawson
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hair longest I have seen itSainterK wrote:Saw his face on the news tonight in a dockers shirt, but wasn't in a position to listen.
He looked different, blonder maybe?
Anyways, at a guess Richter...maybe it was Pelchen that he didn't want to work with?
he does go onto say it was't all bad at the saints
But, given the Saints gave him a second chance at an AFL career, he said he held more fond memories of the club than grudges.
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Was Pelchen at the Hawks when he was canned there?SainterK wrote:Saw his face on the news tonight in a dockers shirt, but wasn't in a position to listen.
He looked different, blonder maybe?
Anyways, at a guess Richter...maybe it was Pelchen that he didn't want to work with?
Anyway, sounds plausible.
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Fans, but didnt go into much detail on it so maybe he meant club aswellOld Mate wrote:Whipping boy? By the club or fans?stkildathunda wrote:Pretty much said is sick of being whipping boy and pretty much indicated it was big factor in quitting club.
Just gotta laugh as if he thought it was bad at Saints, wait til the Freo fans get stuck into him
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That's the thing I can understand if he's copping grief at the club (at his job) but by the fans....Maybe he reads Saintsational...LOL. You'd think most players cop it from the fans at one stage or another.stkildathunda wrote:Fans, but didnt go into much detail on it so maybe he meant club aswellOld Mate wrote:Whipping boy? By the club or fans?stkildathunda wrote:Pretty much said is sick of being whipping boy and pretty much indicated it was big factor in quitting club.
Just gotta laugh as if he thought it was bad at Saints, wait til the Freo fans get stuck into him
But are they willing to pay him 1 mill over 3 years? Madness if you ask me. I think in a poor defence he will be found out.thirty-seven!? wrote:Geez... Am I the only one praying to see GWS suddenly declare interest in him late? Would be beyond comical...
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Old Mate wrote:That's the thing I can understand if he's copping grief at the club (at his job) but by the fans....Maybe he reads Saintsational...LOL. You'd think most players cop it from the fans at one stage or another.stkildathunda wrote:Fans, but didnt go into much detail on it so maybe he meant club aswellOld Mate wrote:Whipping boy? By the club or fans?stkildathunda wrote:Pretty much said is sick of being whipping boy and pretty much indicated it was big factor in quitting club.
Just gotta laugh as if he thought it was bad at Saints, wait til the Freo fans get stuck into him
Yea if he's copped it from club its understandable. Interesting looking back that it wasnt long after his NZ incident that the offer on table was taken off.
This bit is interesting. Might not sound like much but as if Fremantle were keen on him before Ross got there. Everything still points to Ross being approached well and truly before they said (as was rumoured)
The defender, who recently quit the Saints after they offered him a reduced contract, said he was quickly contacted by Lyon and almost immediately pledged his future to the Dockers.
"Probably a day or two after that had gone down, I spoke to Ross and he said 'We're willing to give you another chance'," Dawson told reporters.
"They'd already been looking at me throughout the year, the recruiters.
Maybe that's why they want the AFL to take Phil Scully out of the salary capOld Mate wrote:But are they willing to pay him 1 mill over 3 years? Madness if you ask me. I think in a poor defence he will be found out.thirty-seven!? wrote:Geez... Am I the only one praying to see GWS suddenly declare interest in him late? Would be beyond comical...
I thought so, but someone can correct me if it wasn't the case?Richter wrote:Was Pelchen at the Hawks when he was canned there?SainterK wrote:Saw his face on the news tonight in a dockers shirt, but wasn't in a position to listen.
He looked different, blonder maybe?
Anyways, at a guess Richter...maybe it was Pelchen that he didn't want to work with?
Anyway, sounds plausible.
As for whipping boys, an extremely prehistoric concept IMO. I have never understood the motivation of fans ridiculing and/or abusing any player.
Unfortunately for Zac, not convinced there is a lot of love in waiting for him in WA, could even be worse as he finds himself at his third club by 25.
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Yes Pelchan sent Zac on his way from HawksSainterK wrote:I thought so, but someone can correct me if it wasn't the case?Richter wrote:Was Pelchen at the Hawks when he was canned there?SainterK wrote:Saw his face on the news tonight in a dockers shirt, but wasn't in a position to listen.
He looked different, blonder maybe?
Anyways, at a guess Richter...maybe it was Pelchen that he didn't want to work with?
Anyway, sounds plausible.
As for whipping boys, an extremely prehistoric concept IMO. I have never understood the motivation of fans ridiculing and/or abusing any player.
Unfortunately for Zac, not convinced there is a lot of love in waiting for him in WA, could even be worse as he finds himself at his third club by 25.
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and it all could just be the media picking up some hesitation and Looking for more of a reason than $$$
and as with many footballers who are not media savvy and speak before thinking -Zac realised they were leading him down the- 'well what went wrong track' rather than it just being the $$$.
not just fans sniping him- Walls....... etc- fresh start along with more $$$.
http://www.sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/a ... freo-11777
http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/dawson- ... =FoxSports
in video of interview he does say he has no problem with any person at the saints- and this may indicate that whilst it was mainly money a fresh start after all the ' guff' was a factor.-
and as with many footballers who are not media savvy and speak before thinking -Zac realised they were leading him down the- 'well what went wrong track' rather than it just being the $$$.
not just fans sniping him- Walls....... etc- fresh start along with more $$$.
http://www.sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/a ... freo-11777
http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/dawson- ... =FoxSports
in video of interview he does say he has no problem with any person at the saints- and this may indicate that whilst it was mainly money a fresh start after all the ' guff' was a factor.-
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Ross Lyon loves Zac Dawson because he's a brainless player who Ross can tell exactly what to do and know that Zac will follow his instructions without thought. That's the type of player Lyon likes.
Also, it appears Zac didn't even WANT to stay???
There can be absolutely no doubt we are better off without him in our side...
Also, it appears Zac didn't even WANT to stay???
There can be absolutely no doubt we are better off without him in our side...
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PS he wasn't delisted - he chose not to accept contract- understandable with reduced $$$- he was left of the list.
says it was on return after holidays that things changed.
says it was on return after holidays that things changed.
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Zac's a great kid. I loved having him as our FB and am devastated we lost him.
He definitely seems happier and more relaxed down at Freo. So for his sake I'm glad and wish him all the best.
Full video is here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
Thirty-seven!? - I reckon SOS would have warned Ross (or Zac) if there was any likelihood of GWS making a last-minute move.
He definitely seems happier and more relaxed down at Freo. So for his sake I'm glad and wish him all the best.
Full video is here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
Thirty-seven!? - I reckon SOS would have warned Ross (or Zac) if there was any likelihood of GWS making a last-minute move.
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