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[Con Gorozidis]

Dowler would be about as good a pick-up as gamble.

[Saints94]

Dowler would be about as good a pick-up as gamble.

with our key position stocks getting hit lately a rookie spot might not be the worst thing for Dowler

[Dr Spaceman]

Dowler would be about as good a pick-up as gamble.

with our key position stocks getting hit lately a rookie spot might not be the worst thing for Dowler

Agree.

[mick13]

Considering our hit rate of about 10% with rookies, I think we indeed could do a lot worse than rookie him.

[saintly]

Marcus is my cousin, would've copped a fair bit of flac from me if he chose the filth over us! Now hopefully he impresses enough to get a rookie spot on our list

you had better tell him, he needs to work very hard to impress.

[The Redeemer]

Marcus is my cousin, would've copped a fair bit of flac from me if he chose the filth over us! Now hopefully he impresses enough to get a rookie spot on our list

you had better tell him, he needs to work very hard to impress.

I found it strange he was delisted after he played 2/3 really good debut games at the end of the dons' years. He looked quite at home, kicked a goal or two, found the pill and his disposal did not strike me as poor.

What went wrong with Dowler? Was it being behind Franklin/Roughead? Probably. He looked okay too from memory.

[Teflon]

Got this from BF:


"Marligniani is a goal-kicking midfielder (something we're still missing).

Lourey and Dowler are both KPPs, something we're very short on ATM.

Magner is a big-bodied midfielder, while I don't know much about Hallahan"

I havent seen these guys play but Id be wrapt if we could find a mature bodied mid to go through our centre square to sure up depth and really help with rotations to take heat of our top 4 or so.....

For those who have seen them - can Mariagliani? Magner? cut it at AFL level?
How old are they?
Playing style/strength/weaknesses?

[bergsone]

Very keen on Dowler.

196 cm / 88 kg.

"He started the season as a Noble Park forward but finished it superbly in the backline."

His issue is all about confidence and application. Ability is the least of his worries.

Maybe he's decided he wants an AFL career after all...

Don't like Dowler, his eyes are too close together. Untrustworthy IMO.

Make a good coach then ?

[bergsone]

Very keen on Dowler.

196 cm / 88 kg.

"He started the season as a Noble Park forward but finished it superbly in the backline."

His issue is all about confidence and application. Ability is the least of his worries.

Maybe he's decided he wants an AFL career after all...

Don't like Dowler, his eyes are too close together. Untrustworthy IMO.

Make a good coach then ?

[matrix]

BEN CASLEY

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Height: 191cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 18/03/1992
Club: Western Jets (Vic)

Kevin Sheehan says: Medium defender/forward who takes good contested marks and has good game sense. Provides run from defence or can be a lead-up forward.

In his own words
What type of player are you?
A forward/back utility, lead-up forward, spoil and running backman.

Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Brian Lake, because he can go back or forward, he reads the play well and takes good marks.



James Hallahan

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Height: 189cm
Weight: 79kg
DOB: 04/02/91
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Bio: Running half-back who has elite skills by foot. Reads the ball beautifully in flight often picking off opposition forward entries. Endurance and football smarts are two strengths. Recorded level 14.7 beep test result at Victorian screening. Vic Country U18 representative in 2009.

In his own words
What type of player are you?
A running player with good skills and marking ability.

Which AFL player do you most resemble, and why?
Andrew Mackie and Brendon Goddard - Mackie because he is a running half-back player that I'm similar to, and Goddard because he is versatile and can play anywhere.

sign him up

[Con Gorozidis]

if we are relying on beau dowler for improvement it will be no different as some people hoping gamble would be the great white hope in our fwd line last year.
these two blokes are simply not afl standard.

[Dr Spaceman]

if we are relying on beau dowler for improvement it will be no different as some people hoping gamble would be the great white hope in our fwd line last year.
these two blokes are simply not afl standard.

I think we're only talking about a rookie spot, not a senior selection like Gamble.

And I think some people suggesting he may be worth a rookie spot doesn't equate to anyone relying on him to improve. Hoping perhaps, as we do with any rookie.

[mad saint guy]

I was hoping we'd take a punt on Dowler this time last year. He didn't perform too badly in his few chances at AFL level and his development was interrupted badly by injuries early in his career. Maybe he has finally found confidence in himself and could realise the potential that saw him go so high in the draft.

Considering our lack of talls he would surely be worth a shot. Unlike Gamble he isn't a known quantity. He has only played 16 games and averaged 15 touches and 5 marks in his last year. He also kicked 8 goals in his last 3 games before being delisted.

[Con Gorozidis]

I have nothing against getting him as a Rookie. I am just saying people should keep it well inside their pants at this stage. He was given plenty of opportunties at the Hawks and they are not flush for KPPs. Remember they had a very short backline last season. Just being big doesnt make you any good.

[Zed]

Dowler recruited by Pelchen when he was at the Hawks?

[Dr Spaceman]

I have nothing against getting him as a Rookie. I am just saying people should keep it well inside their pants at this stage. He was given plenty of opportunties at the Hawks and they are not flush for KPPs. Remember they had a very short backline last season. Just being big doesnt make you any good.

Fair enough, but I'm not sure anyone's whipping it out anyway.

[Teflon]

I have nothing against getting him as a Rookie. I am just saying people should keep it well inside their pants at this stage. He was given plenty of opportunties at the Hawks and they are not flush for KPPs. Remember they had a very short backline last season. Just being big doesnt make you any good.

Fair enough, but I'm not sure anyone's whipping it out anyway.

Pluggers had it our for a while....

[stinger]

Dowler recruited by Pelchen when he was at the Hawks?

yep...


"And Beau Dowler, sacked by Hawthorn 12 months ago, was granted permission to train with St Kilda.

The man who selected him at six in the 2005 national draft, Chris Pelchen, invited Dowler to train with the Saints ahead of the national draft.

Dowler is understood to have signed to play with Sandringham in the VFL next year and will train with the Saints in the pre-season. After being cut by Hawthorn he returned to play this year at his local club, Noble Park.

Recruited as a tall key forward, who impressed playing from the goal square in his under-age years, Dowler played better as a mobile defender in his 16 games with the Hawks."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... z1dCZbF88G

[stinger]

Dowler recruited by Pelchen when he was at the Hawks?

yep...


"And Beau Dowler, sacked by Hawthorn 12 months ago, was granted permission to train with St Kilda.

The man who selected him at six in the 2005 national draft, Chris Pelchen, invited Dowler to train with the Saints ahead of the national draft.

Dowler is understood to have signed to play with Sandringham in the VFL next year and will train with the Saints in the pre-season. After being cut by Hawthorn he returned to play this year at his local club, Noble Park.

Recruited as a tall key forward, who impressed playing from the goal square in his under-age years, Dowler played better as a mobile defender in his 16 games with the Hawks."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... z1dCZbF88G

[saint patrick]

Was it Dowler who kick 4 or 5 against the bombers in a final 2 years ago in the game where Lloyd took out Sewell. If it was ..he looked very good that day ..was there live

[saintbrat]

Rookies can be hit or miss as most would say- but one of the succesful ones for the saints is currently the topic of much dicussion around his wage...

just who did Zac replace due to LTI way back in 2009?

[Spinner]

Very keen on Dowler.

196 cm / 88 kg.

"He started the season as a Noble Park forward but finished it superbly in the backline."

His issue is all about confidence and application. Ability is the least of his worries.

Maybe he's decided he wants an AFL career after all...

Yep love this attitude that anyone who didn't have a good career was because they decided not to try as hard a they could.

[Bernard Shakey]

Rookies can be hit or miss as most would say- but one of the succesful ones for the saints is currently the topic of much dicussion around his wage...

just who did Zac replace due to LTI way back in 2009?

It was Jarryd Allen. Zac played 23 games and Jarryd was injured for the whole season.

[GeorgeYoung27]

Not sure if it's been posted yet but Beau Dowler was interviewed on SEN this morning.

http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... owler/3449

[Con Gorozidis]

Was it Dowler who kick 4 or 5 against the bombers in a final 2 years ago in the game where Lloyd took out Sewell. If it was ..he looked very good that day ..was there live

he kicked 3 against the bombers in round 22, 2009.