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Things truly could not be better. A 180 degree turnaround in an exceptionally small period of time. You can't help but think this idea had been brewing for months and Ross was the only obstacle to its fruition.
FQF wrote:Things truly could not be better. A 180 degree turnaround in an exceptionally small period of time. You can't help but think this idea had been brewing for months and Ross was the only obstacle to its fruition.
You might be on the money considering how seemingly swift the change in mantra/development ideology has changed.
The reading of this and with the recent coaching appontments seems that the saints are meaning business which is great news for us supporters. The best thing will be the Academy and its development opportunities for the younger players - (pity Walshe didn't hang around to enjoy this opportunity). The changes are well over due and it is pleasing that we just might be the pioneers in this type of arrangement.
Believe it or not, Dawson is the player we can least afford to lose. I'm by no way a fa of his but we don't have anyone else to replace him. Should have made him the priority and been prepared to lose Peake or Clarke.
Trying to look at it without my rose coloured glasses....
I guess much easier for a coach to walk in to a role with the understanding that this is how it's going to be, than an all controlling coach being told a few years in that everything was going to completely change.
Still think it's worked out the best for all involved.
thirty-seven!? wrote:Will be very very interesting to see who is appointed into this role...
Clearly a very senior role, whilst also being a very new exciting role (something often used to lure big names).
So I would doubt they will appoint a relative nobody...
Paul Roos anybody???
Running his own academy up in Sydney at the moment, funded by the Swans (IIRC). THIS could be the role to really poach a big 'un!
Well if this sort of set up and power sharing was part of the "untenable" conditions Roos said his mate Lyon was facing at St Kilda, I'd say not.
Frawley?
Given the lengths we went to in appointing Watters, and the fact this person will have equal billing, we should expect a similar thoroughness with this position.
I'm now standing by for a rather impressive announcement in the coming weeks.
Bono wrote:Believe it or not, Dawson is the player we can least afford to lose. I'm by no way a fa of his but we don't have anyone else to replace him. Should have made him the priority and been prepared to lose Peake or Clarke.
Blah blah blah. People keep trotting out this balony about Dawson. He's a VFL level footballer. He will get destroyed at the Shockers. 300k LOL
Bono wrote:Believe it or not, Dawson is the player we can least afford to lose. I'm by no way a fa of his but we don't have anyone else to replace him. Should have made him the priority and been prepared to lose Peake or Clarke.
Blah blah blah. People keep trotting out this balony about Dawson. He's a VFL level footballer. He will get destroyed at the Shockers. 300k LOL
Well you clearly have NFI.
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thirty-seven!? wrote:Will be very very interesting to see who is appointed into this role...
Clearly a very senior role, whilst also being a very new exciting role (something often used to lure big names).
So I would doubt they will appoint a relative nobody...
Paul Roos anybody???
Running his own academy up in Sydney at the moment, funded by the Swans (IIRC). THIS could be the role to really poach a big 'un!
Well if this sort of set up and power sharing was part of the "untenable" conditions Roos said his mate Lyon was facing at St Kilda, I'd say not.
Surely things have changed dramatically since Ross left... So can't see it being as 'untenable' as it perhaps once was. Also, when Roos was coach at Sydney he really encouraged his assistants to share the duties with him. So much so that it was his idea to train and appoint Longmire once he had left.
Whilst Ross and Roos were good mates, I really don't see them sharing too many business philosophies.
That all said, we would be doing very well to snare Roos. Although unlikely, I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility!
I just love the doe-eyed faith that the club can do no wrong that many posters on here seem to share. No doubt, if the headline today had been "Watters all-powerful in new Saints coaching structure" the self-same posters would be on here billing and cooing about how fantastic it's all going to be.
I've got absolutely no idea whatsoever whether what is proposed will be an improvement on what has gone before. And I don't understand how anyone can hope to know.
An all-powerful coach in GT got us from the bottom of the table to near the top in 2.5 seasons. Then another all-powerful coach in RL took us to within a hair's breadth of a GF win two years in a row.
While it is theoretically great to share power, there is also a big risk that this will blur the lines of responsibility. If Watters and this soon-to-be-announced Superman are going to have equal responsiblity, then who is going to carry the can if the team doesn't perform?
"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
meher baba wrote:If Watters and this soon-to-be-announced Superman are going to have equal responsiblity, then who is going to carry the can if the team doesn't perform?
I'm sure that no-matter what happens, Raph Clarke will still get blamed.
meher baba wrote:I just love the doe-eyed faith that the club can do no wrong that many posters on here seem to share. No doubt, if the headline today had been "Watters all-powerful in new Saints coaching structure" the self-same posters would be on here billing and cooing about how fantastic it's all going to be.
I've got absolutely no idea whatsoever whether what is proposed will be an improvement on what has gone before. And I don't understand how anyone can hope to know.
An all-powerful coach in GT got us from the bottom of the table to near the top in 2.5 seasons. Then another all-powerful coach in RL took us to within a hair's breadth of a GF win two years in a row.
While it is theoretically great to share power, there is also a big risk that this will blur the lines of responsibility. If Watters and this soon-to-be-announced Superman are going to have equal responsiblity, then who is going to carry the can if the team doesn't perform?
Well I've got no effin idea whether it's gonna work or not.
But I'm allowed to be happy at the thought the club is trying to do something different rather than same old, same old. And that youth development is now a greater priority. And that the appointments all appear to be fine individuals.
It all sounds great from an intent and theoretical perspective. At the end of the day, it's a question of how well everyone works together "over time" and in the AFL world of massive egos, that's not guaranteed.
I would have preferred the main Coach to still be the number one, as the buck has to stop with someone. If there are disagreements on the way that we need to move ahead, what then
I too, say let's run with it and see how well things go - far better than what we have had in the past.
Now I admit that I have a very limited knowledge of the EPL system; but I would assume that the Senior Coach would still have more power than the new player development boss, and this is the club indicating that they will now be placing the same level of importance in player development as they have previously in on field performance.
This will hopefully improve the saints relationship with Sandy and create sustained on field success.
meher baba wrote:If Watters and this soon-to-be-announced Superman are going to have equal responsiblity, then who is going to carry the can if the team doesn't perform?
I'm sure that no-matter what happens, Raph Clarke will still get blamed.
