Farren Ray to re-sign

Moccha · Post: # 1171491Post **Moccha** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 12:58am

ST KILDA midfielder Farren Ray has survived a Saints salary cap juggling act and looks certain to be offered a new contract.

Good on him for showing some spirit towards the club and his team mates

www.SportsLiesFirst.com.au/articles/201 ... ilda-deal/

thejiggingsaint · Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:20am

GREAT!!! One good man!!!! onya FAZ!!!!!

loris · Post: # 1171509Post **loris** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:44am

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so relieved the "Farren Ray Fan Club" will survive over here in the West for another season

skeptic · Post: # 1171511Post **skeptic** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:54am

The question is what do we need to do to get the best out of him.

He has played a number of very good games but doesn't produce nearly often enough for my liking... he should be the a level or so below the very elite but still a primary player. Currently IMO he's a C grade player with the occasional good performance

What do ppl see as his role, best position etc

samoht · Post: # 1171523Post **samoht** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 8:02am

That's good news.,, Ray has his heart in the right place.

He was a very good player in his first year with us but was gradually Lyonised and morphed into a GORP (the R is for role)... averaging 5 less possessions per game.

With a bit of Wattering and nurturing he may floursish again... into a running
machine... who wont be chipping it backwards anymore - as RL's negative game plan heads west, Ray's form may now finally head north !.

There's a ray of hope now.

St Loxton · Post: # 1171524Post **St Loxton** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 8:16am

I see him as a hard running winger, he's a good overhead mark and puts his body on the line a bit.
If he can improve his tank to be able to find space all day on the wing/HFF i reckon he could hold his spot next year.
The competition for his spot is growing though.

bobmurray · Post: # 1171536Post **bobmurray** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 9:18am

Are they really going to sign up ALL of those uncontracted players

borderbarry · Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:24am

It looks like they are going to miss out on one (Zac).

St Lenny · Post: # 1171573Post **St Lenny** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:31am

Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.

saint patrick · Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:39am

Happy with that..good versatile player

lendog heaven · Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:41am

St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.

evidently was on $400K - wonder what he's decided to accept - was very keen to stay - good on ya Fray! a very resilient lad and one we needed to hang on to.

gringo · Post: # 1171579Post **gringo** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:41am

St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.

Guys like Dawson should play on the love of their fans???

bobmurray · Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:47am

gringo wrote:
St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.
Guys like Dawson should play on the love of their fans???

he'd be playing for SFA going by the Zac thread

gringo · Post: # 1171584Post **gringo** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 10:49am

bobmurray wrote:
gringo wrote:
St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.
Guys like Dawson should play on the love of their fans???
he'd be playing for SFA going by the Zac thread

From SS and the Cheer squads reckoning he should be paying us.

skfc17 · Post: # 1171595Post **skfc17** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 11:29am

With a bit of Wattering and nurturing he may floursish again... into a running
machine... who wont be chipping it backwards anymore - as RL's negative game plan heads west, Ray's form may now finally head north

haha very clever

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Tue 01 Nov 2011 11:40am

lendog heaven wrote:
St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.
evidently was on $400K - wonder what he's decided to accept - was very keen to stay - good on ya Fray! a very resilient lad and one we needed to hang on to.

Farren Ray on $400K? Are you serious? Apparently no-one at Geelong, who have won 3 recent premierships, is on more than $550K, so that would be staggering, if true. If we've been over-paying like that on our contracts it's no wonder we're in such salary cap strife.

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Tue 01 Nov 2011 11:49am

skeptic wrote: What do ppl see as his role, best position etc

I'd say clearly wing, half back flank, but when I did what I thought was our best team for next year, recently, I didn't manage to fit him into the 22, so he may have his work cut out for him. The likes of Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Saad and Milera will hopefully all be putting pressure on for spots in the team. Raph and Ray may end up fighting for one spot.
Hopefully having to swallow a pay cut will be a bit of a wake-up call for him, though and will motivate him to play his very best footy for us, in which case he'll be good for us and play plenty of senior footy.

Kilda · Post: # 1171605Post **Kilda** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 12:16pm

I'd expect us to lose multiple uncontracted players over the next fortnight...we may get Ray but lose others...Zac may be just first cab off the rank...

Con Gorozidis · Tue 01 Nov 2011 12:49pm

I am a big fan of Faz. Won us a game last year. Had 2 or 3 great games.
Seems like a top bloke also.

Saintersss · Tue 01 Nov 2011 12:50pm

St Loxton wrote:I see him as a hard running winger, he's a good overhead mark and puts his body on the line a bit.
If he can improve his tank to be able to find space all day on the wing/HFF i reckon he could hold his spot next year.
The competition for his spot is growing though.

His tank is one of his strengths...

dcstkfc · Post: # 1171626Post **dcstkfc** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:03pm

Sports News First.

So essentially he's gone.

BigMart · Post: # 1171627Post **BigMart** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:03pm

One of the best runners at StK

His disposal is the biggest negative....

he was a consistent player 2009 and 2010......dropped form in 2011

20th in the B&F is not good enough for a player of his age/experience (25 and 140 odd games)

Yes he is a wingman/HB and can also do a run with.....very good overhead....and is bigger than most would think at over 6'1" and 85kg

Megsie · Post: # 1171701Post **Megsie** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 5:43pm

great news.
We need loyal players in our club.
I'm sure only good things will come your way Farren.
Those who go for the almighty dollar......well......good luck !!!!!

KARMA

gringo · Post: # 1171705Post **gringo** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 5:48pm

BigMart wrote:One of the best runners at StK

His disposal is the biggest negative....

he was a consistent player 2009 and 2010......dropped form in 2011

20th in the B&F is not good enough for a player of his age/experience (25 and 140 odd games)

Yes he is a wingman/HB and can also do a run with.....very good overhead....and is bigger than most would think at over 6'1" and 85kg

He is good for 20 to 25 unexciting possessions per game, I would have kept Dwason over Faz but still like the way he goes about it. Strategically you would think a runner will push up the next year but fullbacks are harder o find

Con Gorozidis · Tue 01 Nov 2011 6:02pm

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:
lendog heaven wrote:
St Lenny wrote:Yah, at least Farren is not blinded by money........... Ball, Lyin, Walsh and now Dawson.
evidently was on $400K - wonder what he's decided to accept - was very keen to stay - good on ya Fray! a very resilient lad and one we needed to hang on to.
Farren Ray on $400K? Are you serious? Apparently no-one at Geelong, who have won 3 recent premierships, is on more than $550K, so that would be staggering, if true. If we've been over-paying like that on our contracts it's no wonder we're in such salary cap strife.

we overcooked our contracts in 2009 i think!

Dont get me wrong here - but on bang for buck Roo was probably the worst performer in the AFL in 2011.