Zac Dawson rejects St Kilda's offer

bennymac5 · Post: # 1171080Post **bennymac5** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 8:33am

Time for one Tom Simpkin to step up.

Nikky Rixon · Mon 31 Oct 2011 8:41am

If he leaves maybe PANTHER SAM GILBERT or TAFF CLARKE will play fullback but i was hoping hed stay i reckon next year PANTHER, TAFF and SHILLING DAWSON should come into fruition and shine next year

BallBanger · Mon 31 Oct 2011 8:42am

Zac was our drovers dog..we had no-one else and should of developed an alternative....
$300 grand wow...lyon surely going to have full on flood to cover him.

Glad they're gone, looking forward to some exciting football and list development

defacto · Post: # 1171083Post **defacto** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 8:45am

lyon is going to be lynched over in perth if dawson doesnt work out. dockers supporters dont think dawson has what it takes. signing him on a long term deal and 300+ is not only going to piss of the supporters but also the playing group.

dragit · Post: # 1171084Post **dragit** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 8:47am

samoht wrote:Stanley would do no worse vs Cloke , for instance, who as we know just marks everything vs Zac one on one.

What is Cloke's best return against Zac - 3 goals?

Dare say Stanley would end up with a lot more than that kicked on himâ€¦

Cloke just took the most contested marks on record, it wasn't just Dawson getting flung asideâ€¦

matrix · Post: # 1171089Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:07am

stanley
LOL

yeah
he'll do alright one on one huh?

see ya zac
saints obviously means jack shite and money talks

300 grand
pffft
you should be lucky to get 200 bud

footynut · Post: # 1171090Post **footynut** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:08am

If... when Zac leave it looks pretty scarry back there we have Blake, Fisher, that could fill the role, or we could fill the role or should we look at grooming Tom Simkins, or promote the highly rated Jackson Ferguson and throw him in the deep end.

Th other way we could look at it would be to think out side the box and look at moving a forward down back maybe Daniel Archer or an attacking defender such as Sam Gilbert.

How sad is it now that we couldnt keep young Steven Gaertner on our list he would of been a perfect replacement for Dawson.

matrix · Post: # 1171091Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:09am

archer?
at fb?

rightio
lol

WinnersOnly · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:12am

Dont like losing players for zip... The list management team have failed the club in this regard - paying too much for our so called stars and not having these players locked away on contracts.

Having said that I think we cover Zac with Archer or Simpkin - if Zac leaves it will make selecting a key backman at the draft a priority.

Zac needs to be reminded if it wasn't for the Saints he wouldn't be playing AFL.

bergholt · Post: # 1171093Post **bergholt** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:12am

this is great! we can move riewoldt to full back and then put kosi at chb.

noob · Post: # 1171094Post **noob** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:13am

what happens with draft selections now? do we draft 7 kids now?

Little Dozer · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:15am

matrix wrote:stanley
LOL

yeah
he'll do alright one on one huh?

see ya zac
saints obviously means jack shite and money talks

300 grand
pffft
you should be lucky to get 200 bud

200? ROFL

He isn't worth a cracker to anyone other that RL.

bigcarl · Post: # 1171097Post **bigcarl** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:19am

I think we should play hard ball and do everything we can to block his passage to Fremantle.

Good player who I've always rated. Very quick and with good disposal and can play at both ends, as we saw against Carlton.

matrix · Post: # 1171098Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:19am

well he aint worth 300 thats for sure

after tax 200 aint a lot in the afl nowdays

dragit · Post: # 1171101Post **dragit** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:26am

WinnersOnly wrote:Dont like losing players for zip...

I don't either, but really what is the point in trading a regular player for a +50/60 pick, Freo would have offered us nothing, maybe their 4th rounder #58 if we were lucky. We have 4 picks before this and one just after.

I'd say Pelchen was hoping we could hold onto Dawson on a lower wage, can't blame Zac for chasing the money though, 350K would be double what we could offer him.

Shame we hadn't sorted this out earlier though, we might have been able to throw more money and opportunity at Walsh.

I'd be trying Gilbert out in the FB role first up.

saintly · Post: # 1171102Post **saintly** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:26am

skeptic wrote:
Rocket wrote:Not sure why a trade wasn't negotiated...now we get nothing again!!!!
not rocket science

clearly freo weren't playing ball... figured he'd walk and they could get him in the pre-season draft - bet they didn't offer a draft pick earlier then something we won't use anyway

RL is quite the cut throat

yep that would be true

Moccha · Post: # 1171103Post **Moccha** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:26am

We saved this guys arse and tried to make something with nothing. I'd say there are better full backs in the VFL at the moment

samoht · Post: # 1171105Post **samoht** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:27am

matrix wrote:stanley
LOL

yeah
he'll do alright one on one huh?

see ya zac
saints obviously means jack shite and money talks

300 grand
pffft
you should be lucky to get 200 bud

Stanley may not be much chop one on one and body vs body too - but he certainly won't do worse than Zac.
Kick the ball in the air 10 times to Zac vs Cloke and Cloke would mark all 10.

Cloke may have kicked 3 goals vs Zac thanks to Zac's team mates covering for him or Cloke playing outside the F50 for structural reasons with Dawes at FF... but Cloke takes 13 or 14 marks on him.

matrix · Post: # 1171106Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:27am

he'd be wasted back there imo

jmac101 · Post: # 1171107Post **jmac101** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:28am

All signs are pointing to us getting absolutely gutted when free agency rolls around.... Hope I am wrong, but seems like guys are happy to walk these days...

winmaaah · Post: # 1171108Post **winmaaah** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:28am

Zac is handy but never convincing, I wonder how much money it will free up, and where we can use it.

dirtydog24 · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:34am

On the Ball wrote:He will feel right at home in Northbridge.

Spot on! Have never quite figured out how a player, a really ordinary one at that, who has so many 'red flags' off-field, could remain in the system and get chance after chance.

BigMart · Post: # 1171115Post **BigMart** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:37am

Matthew Warnock

27yo
194cm
97kg
Melbourne FC

5th Best and Fairest 2009

thejiggingsaint · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:38am

I wish Zac Dawson the best of luck (as I feel he's going to need it!) we picked him up for nothing so we don't really need to complain too much. As far as "who replaces him?" goes, well rather than waste energy and time here on that issue, I'm happy to give the coach and his staff enough credit to have some idea of how the team will shape come 2012

I must admit that Dawson never filled me with confidence, but I wish him well all the same.

saintspremiers · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:43am

noob wrote:what happens with draft selections now? do we draft 7 kids now?

Yes most likely. Now that Lyin has gone it may mean no more or perhaps one recycled player, like most clubs.

I wish Zac well and hope he ends up anywhere but Freo!

Zac Dawson rejects St Kilda's offer

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