Saints delistings

Sobraz · Post: # 1169668Post **Sobraz** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 4:25pm

Gershwin wrote:Todays Inside Football newspaper has the deletions from the list as:

Steven Gaertner
Steven Baker
Andrew McQualter
Robert Eddy
Michael Gardiner
Tom Lynch
Tommy Walsh
Ryan Gamble
Alistair Smith
Nick Heyne
Will Johnson

So what's the deal with Archer then?

Gershwin · Post: # 1169670Post **Gershwin** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 4:29pm

looks like Archer and Cahill are still there at this stage.

borderbarry · Wed 26 Oct 2011 5:05pm

If that list is correct, we have 8 off the Senior List, and 3 off the Rookie list.
As we have already picked up Milera and Saad, we have 6 more picks for the draft, and at least 3 for the rookie draft.

meher baba · Wed 26 Oct 2011 5:07pm

If this list is correct, then we are likely to hold on to Raph, Grammy, Blake and Polo, all of which I would support.

saintly · Post: # 1169677Post **saintly** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 5:10pm

borderbarry wrote:If that list is correct, we have 8 off the Senior List, and 3 off the Rookie list.
As we have already picked up Milera and Saad, we have 6 more picks for the draft, and at least 3 for the rookie draft.

that probably sounds about right. as the saints had had said near the end of trading, that they wanted 6 picks in the draft.

AdelSaint · Post: # 1169678Post **AdelSaint** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 5:10pm

Feel a bit sorry for Johnson as saw his only game in Adelaide where he got crunched at one of the first times the ball game down forward. He did not recover and was subbed off.
Never had a chance really.

saintly · Post: # 1169681Post **saintly** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 5:11pm

AdelSaint wrote:Feel a bit sorry for Johnson as saw his only game in Adelaide where he got crunched at one of the first times the ball game down forward. He did not recover and was subbed off.
Never had a chance really.

agree, but many of those players never had a chance with lyon. who is to say, that with a different coach, there would have been different outcomes?

FortiusQuoFidelius · Wed 26 Oct 2011 6:01pm

Gershwin wrote:Todays Inside Football newspaper has the deletions from the list as:

Steven Gaertner
Steven Baker
Andrew McQualter
Robert Eddy
Michael Gardiner
Tom Lynch
Tommy Walsh
Ryan Gamble
Alistair Smith
Nick Heyne
Will Johnson

We all should just wait on the last four until there is official word from the club. Until official, lists like these are pure speculation and have little substance.

Megsie · Post: # 1169710Post **Megsie** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 6:37pm

haven't noticed croc media being very accurate lately.
wouldn't hold my breathe on their advice.!!

Megsie · Post: # 1169711Post **Megsie** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 6:38pm

haven't noticed croc media being very accurate lately.
wouldn't hold my breathe on their advice.!!

Ross who? · Post: # 1169717Post **Ross who?** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 7:19pm

Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.

bobmurray · Post: # 1169724Post **bobmurray** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 7:41pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
bobmurray wrote:
saintjake wrote:
bobmurray wrote:
saintjake wrote:Anyway doesn't look real, not on twitter from any of the journos or anything.
Would that be the same journos who said Richardson had the job.....crocs...
Narrow view, they are usually very accurate on there and pride themselves on being the first to break the news.
narrow my arse Craig
Is that a request bob? Do you want Craig to perform surgery on your buttocks?

saintbrat · Post: # 1169731Post **saintbrat** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 9:08pm

Ross who? wrote:Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.

only based on those comments My suggestion would be that maybe opportunity is still there-- turning up cannot hurt.

SaintWal · Post: # 1169761Post **SaintWal** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 11:02pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Gershwin wrote:Todays Inside Football newspaper has the deletions from the list as:

Steven Gaertner
Steven Baker
Andrew McQualter
Robert Eddy
Michael Gardiner
Tom Lynch
Tommy Walsh
Ryan Gamble
Alistair Smith
Nick Heyne
Will Johnson
We all should just wait on the last four until there is official word from the club. Until official, lists like these are pure speculation and have little substance.

You can add Cahill as a definite and Polo will be lucky. Some of the guys like Johnson may get a second chance.

ausfatcat · Wed 26 Oct 2011 11:23pm

Ross who? wrote:Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.

lol yeah right, laughable

1. Why would the saints tell the player manhers and ask em to not tell the players it makes noe sense

2.why would the player managers not tell the players?

SainterK · Post: # 1169770Post **SainterK** » Thu 27 Oct 2011 12:16am

Senior players Zac Dawson, Brett Peake, Raph Clarke, Farren Ray, Ryan Gamble and Dean Polo are all out of contract and likely to take an enforced pay cut next year if they want to stay with the Saints.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z1btQe9fvd

So Gamble is still a chance to stay?

I'm confused

skeptic · Post: # 1169775Post **skeptic** » Thu 27 Oct 2011 7:37am

Interesting article K,

I'd be happy if all those players stayed for less money... Dawson and Clarke are the only required players in that bunch (IMO) whereas Ray, Peake and Polo are ok players with very noticeable definicies.
Gamble should be of minimal wage if he stays

Too bad about Gaertner... really liked that kid although that's ancient history

Wrote for Luck · Thu 27 Oct 2011 8:32am

I would be surprised and hurt if Johnson, Archer, Polo or Smith left the club.

Especially key position players Archer and Johnson - think they have a future from what I have seen.

Look at Archer - turned twenty yesterday and is 99kg and begining to move well. A 193cm big boy is something we can use.

matrix · Post: # 1169780Post **matrix** » Thu 27 Oct 2011 8:43am

i wont shed any tears if gamble left

ace · Post: # 1169792Post **ace** » Thu 27 Oct 2011 9:42am

Ross who? wrote:Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.

It might be a case of "required" players being offered contracts but baulking at taking pay cuts.

If a "required" player fails to sign by a deadline then that "required" player is delisted and a "to be delisted" player wins a reprieve.

Ross who? · Thu 27 Oct 2011 10:05am

ausfatcat wrote:
Ross who? wrote:Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.

lol yeah right, laughable

1. Why would the saints tell the player manhers and ask em to not tell the players it makes noe sense

2.why would the player managers not tell the players?

Managers are told first apparently so the manager can still be proactive and talk to other clubs, etc. The club want to be the ones to tell the players so they have all been called to Seaford for a meeting on Friday morning.
The players that have been listed previously are all the correct ones according to several players I have spoken to. Archer seems to be the one that nobody is sure about either way.

Ross who? · Thu 27 Oct 2011 10:09am

ace wrote:
Ross who? wrote:Players managers have been told of delistings but asked not to pass it on to the players. Uncontracted Players are to turn up on Friday at 11am to have a meeting. Raph has not even been offered a new contract YET???? Club has said that there are up to 6 left to still be confirmed(contracts) for 2012. Delisted guys are tossing up whether or not to turn up. Not sure if Archer has been delisted yet.
It might be a case of "required" players being offered contracts but baulking at taking pay cuts.

If a "required" player fails to sign by a deadline then that "required" player is delisted and a "to be delisted" player wins a reprieve.

Absolutely spot on!!!! That is the scenario, however the "delisted guys" all seem to think it is unlikely they will get another chance.

ausfatcat · Thu 27 Oct 2011 10:09am

So your saying player DO know?

Ross who? · Thu 27 Oct 2011 10:18am

ausfatcat wrote:So your saying player DO know?

Yes, UNOFFICIALLY but the managers are more loyal to the players and can't keep secrets! See above as to why they can't be told Officially

ace · Post: # 1169801Post **ace** » Thu 27 Oct 2011 10:22am

ausfatcat wrote:So your saying player DO know?

If you haven't had a contract offer by now, you KNOW.
If you get as late offer, it is because someone else has chosen to walk.