Burke's Law - How the Saints got our man!

stkildathunda · Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:24pm

Very interesting insight by Nathan Burke on how the Saints went about getting Scott Watters as their new coach.

http://www.insidefootballonline.com/burke.html

asaint · Post: # 1169454Post **asaint** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:30pm

Thanks. Great reading. Loved the backhander to Ross re gaurds at gate comment.

Heidelberg_Saint · Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:33pm

Interesting reference to "placing guards at the gates". Hopefully things will change now for the better and open the club to the supporters!

SaintPav · Post: # 1169457Post **SaintPav** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:33pm

asaint wrote:Thanks. Great reading. Loved the backhander to Ross re gaurds at gate comment.

Yep. Saw that. Some nice little backhanders lately. He deserves it.

SainterK · Post: # 1169458Post **SainterK** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:34pm

Burke never said anything bad about him during his tenure, easy to pick flaws after he's left....

savatage · Post: # 1169461Post **savatage** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:37pm

SainterK wrote:Burke never said anything bad about him during his tenure, easy to pick flaws after he's left....

Dr Spaceman · Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:37pm

asaint wrote:Thanks. Great reading. Loved the backhander to Ross re gaurds at gate comment.

saintbrat · Post: # 1169463Post **saintbrat** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:38pm

Stillwaiting · Tue 25 Oct 2011 9:52pm

SaintPav wrote:
asaint wrote:Thanks. Great reading. Loved the backhander to Ross re gaurds at gate comment.
Yep. Saw that. Some nice little backhanders lately. He deserves it.

Got that to, nice little dig at the previose coach.

Good article, intersting to hear the detail they went to to get select the coach.

Royston · Post: # 1169483Post **Royston** » Tue 25 Oct 2011 10:37pm

Who at SEN?

Legendary · Tue 25 Oct 2011 11:07pm

It's funny - the people who blindly criticise the club and the appointment process always seem to fall silent when these sort of articles are posted.

Maybe the Saints did something really well (coach selection process) ... just like they did the same thing really well in 2007 ...

Burkey seems very confident in Watters. Obviously has a vested interest, but with a process that thorough, you would be pretty confident in getting your man.

Jacks Back · Tue 25 Oct 2011 11:07pm

I'd hate to go through an interview "process" like that, that's for sure!

Devilhead · Tue 25 Oct 2011 11:16pm

Royston wrote:Who at SEN?

I don't know who at SEN but I do know that Caroline Wilson referred to the coach search panel as "politically correct"

See below for excerpt

"Nettlefold, who yesterday unveiled a politically correct team that would oversee the search for a new coach

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z1bnLAnpoa

ace · Post: # 1169512Post **ace** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 12:34am

If they wanted a politically correct selection panel they would have appointed the Bulldogs Julia Gillard instead of Brad Johnson to the panel.

But obviously they wanted a competent selection panel instead.

rfisher · Post: # 1169513Post **rfisher** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 12:35am

Devilhead wrote:
Royston wrote:Who at SEN?
I don't know who at SEN but I do know that Caroline Wilson referred to the coach search panel as "politically correct"

See below for excerpt

"Nettlefold, who yesterday unveiled a politically correct team that would oversee the search for a new coach

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z1bnLAnpoa

Footy is 'politically correct' because of Caroline Wilson. I swear she tells GT and Garry they are sexist every third week of Footy Classified.

plugger66 · Post: # 1169521Post **plugger66** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 7:03am

SainterK wrote:Burke never said anything bad about him during his tenure, easy to pick flaws after he's left....

I didnt realise you were on the Saints board.

markp · Post: # 1169543Post **markp** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:14am

Yeah we lost thousands of members because of the closed training sessions we had.

I'm sure many hated having to find the money to go to GF's too.

At least that's been addressed.

No doubt our sponsorship, SC, stadium deal, and general financial woes will be sorted now that evil Ross is gone too.

philtee · Post: # 1169544Post **philtee** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:14am

Burkey cuts through the bulldust that's choked the media over the past month. Grant Thomas - "Saints scared to make a decision"!
The "politically correct" panel. Saints taking too long...Saints slow off the mark...etc etc etc.
Burke also delivers a hip and shoulder to someone from SEN...interesting seeing that SEN has just bought Inside Football.

And can I pay full credit to the Club for being absolutely watertight over the whole interview process.

**Grant Thomas's Tweets on October 9 - surely indicating how far he was out of the loop -
"Saints interviewed 40 candidates! Extraordinary. I hope they knew what they were looking for?â€

philtee · Post: # 1169545Post **philtee** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:15am

It was a double post.

SainterK · Post: # 1169546Post **SainterK** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:17am

markp wrote:Yeah we lost thousands of members because of the closed training sessions we had.

I'm sure many hated having to find the money to go to GF's too.

At least that's been addressed.

No doubt our sponsorship, SC, stadium deal, and general financial woes will be sorted now that evil Ross is gone too.

I'm sure even when your making grand finals, there are still areas to improve as a football club?

SENsei · Post: # 1169551Post **SENsei** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:25am

Yet they still wanted to employ Ross Lyon even though the club is on the nose and needs to mend relationships with key stakeholders?

What am I missing here?

If Ross stayed it would be a case of 'same old same old'? Or were they going to reign Ross in if he was the cause of all ills.

Sorry Burkey, but I'm not buying.

joffaboy · Post: # 1169552Post **joffaboy** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:27am

SainterK wrote:
markp wrote:Yeah we lost thousands of members because of the closed training sessions we had.

I'm sure many hated having to find the money to go to GF's too.

At least that's been addressed.

No doubt our sponsorship, SC, stadium deal, and general financial woes will be sorted now that evil Ross is gone too.
I'm sure even when your making grand finals, there are still areas to improve as a football club?

First area would be to win one.

My guess at SEN would either have been Hutchison or Matt Thompson, both ignorant halfwits.

SainterK · Post: # 1169553Post **SainterK** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:28am

SENsaintsational wrote:Yet they still wanted to employ Ross Lyon even though the club is on the nose and needs to mend relationships with key stakeholders?

What am I missing here?

If Ross stayed it would be a case of 'same old same old'? Or were they going to reign Ross in if he was the cause of all ills.

Sorry Burkey, but I'm not buying.

Or they already tried to reign him in, hence it became untenable?

SENsei · Post: # 1169555Post **SENsei** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:29am

joffaboy wrote:
SainterK wrote:
markp wrote:Yeah we lost thousands of members because of the closed training sessions we had.

I'm sure many hated having to find the money to go to GF's too.

At least that's been addressed.

No doubt our sponsorship, SC, stadium deal, and general financial woes will be sorted now that evil Ross is gone too.
I'm sure even when your making grand finals, there are still areas to improve as a football club?
First area would be to win one.

My guess at SEN would either have been Hutchison or Matt Thompson, both ignorant halfwits.

It was Caroline Wilson on FootyClassified and The Age that said politically correct. I think Tim Watson on SEN mentioned her comments. Might be some cross promotion of the SEN name going on I think.

markp · Post: # 1169556Post **markp** » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:29am

SainterK wrote:
markp wrote:Yeah we lost thousands of members because of the closed training sessions we had.

I'm sure many hated having to find the money to go to GF's too.

At least that's been addressed.

No doubt our sponsorship, SC, stadium deal, and general financial woes will be sorted now that evil Ross is gone too.
I'm sure even when your making grand finals, there are still areas to improve as a football club?

No doubt.

But it was a petty swipe, rather a 'nice little backhander', and who really gives a crap about some closed training sessions?

Pretty petulant and pointless comment about the SEN reporter too, especially when....

Blind Freddy will tell you the Saints have an image problem right now and it was important to us that the next coach had strong views and was willing to do whatever necessary to mend relations with key club stakeholders.

Beginning to think the man aint that smart.